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I personally prefer to judge cars 100% on stock class novice results, since there's almost no variance in skill level

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A few people have run the Frs here inHouston at the track it's a high 14s to low 15s car its only 170 hp. My stock 2002 RSX S could beat it. My modified RSX could probably beat it around the track and that is just adding the Type R equipment.

Hope Forza adds it to the list.

On thing the Frs does beat the Z in is fuel mileage!

I think the veloster turbo and the frs are a good match.

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Wait a couple of months and you'll see BRZ/FR-s on every stoplight here in florida with cute stuffed toy hanging under the diffuser with pink rims and a giant spoiler that's bigger than the 747 , marked my words.

Same thing will happen eventually with the 370z after 8 years when it became cheap and accessible to these boy racers who thinks they have the fastest car in the world.

You are too late, it already happened.

Judging a novice is like judging a guy high on bath salt , you never know what he is going to do or what he is going to eat.

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i have 600 hp and i get a tad bit over 45 mpg. I'm not lieing.

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I havent test driven one yet so I'm not going on long azz quibbles on its potentiality. A lot of cars get magazine hype on first year magazine runs. Honda, toyota, ford &BMW always get a little extra D1ck sucking over the other brands based questionable factors.

Its a nice looking car though. The tail lights can use a little more pizazz, the wheels can use a lil more wow and the interior can use some extra fluidity in its overall look. There's a lot of 90's style break ups in the interior design.

My general undriven impression of the car is... if anyone ever wanted a civic/integra to be RWD. Or wanted slightly more power out of a miata, or wanted something styled more manly than a miata. This FRS/BRZ is it.if you are into autoX or heavy into short complex track racing. This car will be fun.
If I need a mountain carver in PR? This will be perfect. Its hard to get over 50mph on the PR mountains and you really need something like this. A Z has too much power for that type of driving. A car like a BRZ, 2.0 gencoupe, WRX or ralliart is perfect in a place like that.
NYC and some parts of upstate NY. Perfect. Though NY is killer on your suspension. The power numbers are adequate for areas you can get up to 50mph maybe 60. On NY NJ CT n PAmountain roads, many are narrower than in places like WV,VA, NC, SC. So again a lil low hp car would work great.

Regions like the midwest. Where high speed tracks and quarter mile tracks are everywhere. Where we hit 80mph stretches of highway. Where we can get on 500 miles of winding country road and with a radar we are unstoppable... where roads are smooth and open and you can pretty much do 50mph safely on most streets, let alone the highway. This car will not be adequate to most.

If I ever decide to put another car on my property in PR, go back to NY to live with the NEW outta state rich kid cry babies and the future communists of america. I will consider an FRS. If I need a fun second fuel efficient car after I add stage 2 turbos to my Z... I will strongly consider this car.

But plain and simple. From these observations. The FRS fits in a different enviorment. In the enviorment my Z fits in, my car is the underdog and possibly, the SLOWEST car on the block. But my C0ck is big enough to feel secure about that.

Still love my Z. H8ers gonna H8.

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For the same money, I think I'd rather go with the Mazdaspeed3 or the new Ford Focus ST. Not RWD, but they both handle very very well and have significantly more hp and tq. Plus, I can haul kids, lumber, and other tough cargo with ease! They just make more sense especially if you are using them as a daily driver.

Why is everyone ragging on the power of this? Subaru has already announced a turbo-charged top of the line BR-Z is coming out next year. Ya'll are ragging on a base model and just might eat your words when that one comes out.

And to be perfectly honest, i can see myself trading in the Z for a factory turbo-charged varient of the BR-Z.

Really, where did you read this? I haven't seen this anywhere. Link to the article?

yaww!!

I stand corrected. It's getting an Sti variant (50hp and suspension upgrades) that is NOT turbo-charged. WTF? I give that 2 years....

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Yeah that's what I read. Intake/exhaust mods, raising redline to 7500, and messing with the variable valve control system should give it that 50 hp bump.

2014 Subaru BRZ STI - Top Speed

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Wow! I was actually very interested in the STI version until now... Can't imagine how much they're gonna try and mark it up when it debuts.

Here's hoping Toyota picks up the slack.

200 + 50 = 250. who cares.

I don't think Toyota is doing anything similar to the FR-S.

werd, especially a NA 250.

wat?

I meant they don't plan on going FI with the FR-S.

Confirmed: No Scion FR-S Turbo, Subaru BRZ Maybe Eventually

well, it'll be fun to see all the hilarious aftermarket variations on the car.

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Nice looking car, I would only be switching to such a car because I had to scale back and still wanted to be sporty, in no way shape or form would I consider it to be a better car than a Z.

I know a guy in our club who went from a G35 to a Hyundai Veloster...because of how "expensive" the gas was...he should never have set foot into a VQ in the first place.

I also think if Scion pumps out enough, they will be everywhere while I will continue to enjoy the Heritage and rarity of my Z

Oh yes, you know some boy racers are gonna rice this car to hell....there will be some quality ones no doubt, but we will see some epic rice I'm sure

this kind of kid should not set foot in the car hobby. get a RC car and play with that.

"We can’t outprice AND outperform Mustangs if we want to sell cars, we have to pick one or the other and outperforming limits sales"

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What happens when you pick "neither?"

You get a pretty awesome z car. Wait, wrong thread?

The price will probably hit over $30k at that point... might as well just stick with the tried & true WRX Sti. This car should really start in the low $20k. It would be a smart move for Toyota to add a FI variant, not so much for Subaru which will potentially eat sales of the WRX.

Hahahaha, oh kenchan.



I would not trade the Z for a BRZ/FR-S, it's a great entry level sports car but it's quite a step down in performance compared to the Z34. That said, I test drove one and it does have a better driving feel in terms of responsiveness and joy that is a bit muted in the Z at times.

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Expected from such a light FR platform. Are you comparing it to the stock Z or your modded Z?

Who traded in their Z for either one of these cars? Please raise your hand.