My whiny little b**ch thread.

[mattleegee]

maybe a light read in here could make 1-2 shifts less painful
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[2004YZFR1]

I'm sorry to hear about your tranny, but you do write a good story!

[cossie1600]

My transmission was never good from the moment I got her at 27 miles. I have changed the fluid, it helped for 3000 miles. Now I am back to a clunky transmission again. I have an appointment with Nissan on Tuesday. I fully expect the ******** to send me home telling me nothing is wrong. I just wanted to document it so I can actually send the car into the shop for a month to get all the problems fixed.

[red6spd]

Define Clunky? Everyone keeps crying about clunky. Yea its clunky and it does sound like poop sometimes but is it making you shift bad? Mine clunks but I have come to live with it. My Altima and Spec-V where the same way but it never made the shift less precise.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Who's arguing??? Aight anyway... you run with that story.

[mdxj]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Who's arguing??? Aight anyway... you run with that story.

Im not defending my personal opinion to you when you come off like an a$$.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by mdxj

Im not defending my personal opinion to you when you come off like an a$$.

So in other words... you have absolutely no basis of comparison between the general performance of the PDK and the A7? Other than its on a porsche, and hiding behind the "Way" I asked the question is motivation to evade.

Yeah ok.
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[lemon-fresh]

I drive my 09 MT in rush hour traffic wearing flip flops most days... I've driven easier MT's and trickier MT's than this one but they've all been tamed with just a bit of practice.

[Vbp6US]

Originally Posted by lemon-fresh

I drive my 09 MT in rush hour traffic wearing flip flops most days... I've driven easier MT's and trickier MT's than this one but they've all been tamed with just a bit of practice.

I think this is an accurate statement. It took some practice but I've finally tamed the beast and can get off the line with no shuddering, shaking, rocking, etc.

[mdxj]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

So in other words... you have absolutely no basis of comparison between the general performance of the PDK and the A7? Other than its on a porsche, and hiding behind the "Way" I asked the question is motivation to evade.

Yeah ok.
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Here is my short, personal review of why I chose a manual over what UNKNOWN370 thinks is the best transmission, the 7AT and why PDK felt better. After this, I am done with this tread and him. This is all personal opinion from my experience with these and I am not saying one choice is better then another..

I drove a Cayman S with both PDK, an older model with out and the standard. Between PDK and the regular auto they used, not sure exactly how it was set up, PDK shifted smoother and the gear changes seemed to come on quicker. Even though PDk is still automated, it gave off the impression that you still had control compared to the older Cayman's transmission.

The 370z's 7AT is a big step up from the 350 and most trip-tronic autos that cars are coming with today, and having an auto in traffic is a huge advantage. The paddles are with in easy reach and make it easier then using the stick, which is something that never seemed natural to me with an auto. It felt more lively then what I was expecting and was more willing to change gear in both modes, but to me it still felt like an auto and that I was not in complete control over my gear changes compared to a dual clutch set up.

Comparing gear boxes in cars that are almost double the price of the Z isn't really fair but I could feel the difference. I can easily see why the dual clutch gear box is starting to replace a standard in most high end cars where speed is the only goal and once they start to get cheaper, i have a feeling more and more lower end cars will start having them as standard equipment.

Sorry to thread jack.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by mdxj

Here is my short, personal review of why I chose a manual over what UNKNOWN370 thinks is the best transmission, the 7AT and why PDK felt better. After this, I am done with this tread and him. This is all personal opinion from my experience with these and I am not saying one choice is better then another..

I drove a Cayman S with both PDK, an older model with out and the standard. Between PDK and the regular auto they used, not sure exactly how it was set up, PDK shifted smoother and the gear changes seemed to come on quicker. Even though PDk is still automated, it gave off the impression that you still had control compared to the older Cayman's transmission.

The 370z's 7AT is a big step up from the 350 and most trip-tronic autos that cars are coming with today, and having an auto in traffic is a huge advantage. The paddles are with in easy reach and make it easier then using the stick, which is something that never seemed natural to me with an auto. It felt more lively then what I was expecting and was more willing to change gear in both modes, but to me it still felt like an auto and that I was not in complete control over my gear changes compared to a dual clutch set up.

Comparing gear boxes in cars that are almost double the price of the Z isn't really fair but I could feel the difference. I can easily see why the dual clutch gear box is starting to replace a standard in most high end cars where speed is the only goal and once they start to get cheaper, i have a feeling more and more lower end cars will start having them as standard equipment.

Sorry to thread jack.

You thread jacked when you made an unsubstantiated statement on auto vs pdk. But thanks for filling in. I agree with some of your observations but to a limt. The pdk shifts too smooth. If you're going to have a manual mode? Why do you want to drive like you're in auto? And if you are trying to paddle shift so smoothly? Why not just leave it in auto mode? And if you want to master being smooth on shifts? Why not buy a manual. Just a thought...
The evo imho has a slightly courser but way more punchier dct than the porsche. Part of that experience might be shifting on boost. But compared to the pdk. I like the feel of the evo better. Maybe I like crude more than refined.

I can go on about this topic but I'm a leave it be. Next time keep autos and DCT's out of manual threads if you consider this thread jacking.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by mdxj

Im not defending my personal opinion to you when you come off like an a$$.

What you wrote is NOT an opinion. Its a statement. There's no fact or opinion to it. No information other than a personal preference based on nothing but fun??? Ok. I can't see how pulling one paddle is more fun in one car than another. And DRM makes the Z feel more torquey and aggressive, while PDK is much more smooth and kinda boring if you ask me... i'd rather have a manual porsche and an automatic Z, if I were basing it purely on fun.

This is an opinion. Not," pdk is more fun."

[AlanManouk]

i feel for you man. Mine can be loud and annoying at times especially 2nd gear

[Davey]

The 350Z and 370Z manual transmissions are rather notchy and unrefined, and really detract from the car.

[NYBladeZ]

The clunky manual transmission is one of the worst aspects of the z34, it really ruined the car for me. I constantly thought it was my driving but every time I jumped into any other manual car I experienced a much smoother experience, hell my friend's 2004 Sti transmission feels light years better than the Z and that transmission is 5 years older than the 2009 model Z!

Sure you can argue that the 7AT is the way to go but not for purists like myself. I can't have the car "drive" for me, there's no better feeling than going from 6th to 3rd and dropping the hammer.

OP, you didn't come off whiny in your original post at all, just another frustrated Z34 owner who loves driving stick and finds it ignorant of Nissan to give the Z, an otherwise well balanced sports car, a really crappy transmission.