Yeah you'r good to go, with the exception of shocks, front end, wheel & possibly lighter steering??? You're driving the same Z as a 9-12 mechanically. Nissan didn't do anything revolutionary with the refresh. Even the body kits should fit fine.

I didn't know they changed the tails...I'm def not feeling those.

Haha no those are JDM tailights(aftermarket).

Unknown, Our opinions differ on light vs tight steering but it's all good. That's exactly what these forums are for. To share our knowledge and opinions in hopes of making the Z community better. Now lets go out and enjoy our Z's!

Not to be overly pedantic, but I strongly disagree here. These are independent variables.

Light/Heavy in relation to steering is a description of resistance - a property of how much power steering boost is provided.

Loose/Tight describes how far the wheel must be rotated to affect a meaningful change in direction - this can be measured qualitatively in how many turns the wheel rotates lock to lock. This has little relation to effort/resistance.

In theory, you could have light & tight steering that has little resistance/feedback but a slight movement results in a large steering change (10th generation Thunderbirds were this way - overboosted with no effort and also very sensitive). Likewise you could have heavy & loose steering that requires a lot of effort and you have to move the steering wheel far off center to achieve a turn. Just because steering is heavy doesn't mean it's also going to be responsive and tight.

Now, as to how this relates to the maligned 2013 driving experience is a mystery to me as I haven't driven previous Z's. It just cracks me up how one guy's comment leads to the wild speculation that the '13's steering is shoddy.


Wow, this cracks me up. You should publish an auto magazine called Car & Non-Driver to review cars you haven't driven. I'd subscribe :)


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Dude, what you described as loose and tight is the STEERING WHEELSturning radius... I would call that long & short, not loose... tight is usable for short in that scenario...i'm talking about steering feel... Maybe light is a better word for you guys to make an argument... But all i'm saying is from the past experience of what i've driven, what it sounds like is... it's not a final opinion or an insult, just an opinion based off what it sounds like... I did say i have to test drive it though... But whatever... I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings. u feeling hot bothered and sensative and can't accept someones predictive "loose" opinion. My opinion is not set in stone either...

Example... I hated the whole look of the refresh before i saw the Z in person. In person, I realized the sport pkg components are a pretty nice qualitative improvement. BUT... my feelings about the front end didn't change.

My first two months of living in an 11, I didn't like the softer suspension from the 09. But I learned to live with it till i got swifts... I didnt know they went softer spring rate in 11... i had to go back to the dealer and ask wtf is wrong with my car.
The most important part of any review imho is suspension and steering feel. the words being chosen by new owners is not appealing in my personal preference from my need frrom a sports car. Why you so hurt??? BMW suspensions dont impress me... neither do electronic lsd's. But most people think bimmers are the ultimate driving cars. I think they drive nice but the Z in general feels better. Again my opinion. Based on driving them... I haven't driven the refresh yet, but i owned more Nissans than any other car. I can almost feel what nissan will do right and wrong based on description alone. i can't do that with any other car cuz i've never driv en as many cars in one brand as i have here... Again, its still an opinion.

I'm not "hurt" at all, I just happen to have a highly tuned BS meter. This was a thread to discuss 2013 arrivals, and once again, as with every 2013 thread, it's been sidetracked by ridiculousness.

Again, you took a passing comment and turned it into "the Z has lost the last of its sport"?

I mean, you're the Nissan "expert" who genuinely thought he was setting a rev limiter on his 7AT a while back, and now you're the Jeremy Clarkson of Nissans? Just enjoy your car and let others do the same - all of this mincing words to find ways to cast aspersions on the 2013 is just embarrassing.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...v-limiter.html


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When I say last of its sport. I mean that it sounds like ithas gone 100% GT. GT's are sports cars in its characteristic but has made some serious tunes to add more comfort that may or may not compromise performance.

As far as the Rev-Limit thread. While testing on the street, I did feel resistance at the blink... but all my settings were high and was not thinking that the resistance was just I was revving pretty high as in over 4800rpm. The reason I was feeling resistance on the street vs highway was because driving at low speeds and going rpm range slowly, that resistance would come early.
I just wasn't thinking when I posted that... I can admit that. On the though, I realized my mistake that while under hard acceleration I got no resistance till I hit redline. Then I realized my stupidity.
Anyway... like I said... if you've ever driven a 350z and G35. The G35 ride quality was the same as the 350z, Steering feel and responsiveness was near equal, The G added weight made the G actually feel slightly more planted and driveable. The G was better road car and was 95% of the 350z. Especially 03-06.
You can't say the same between the G37 and 370z. A wider difference in weight and weight distribution, differently dialed steering feel and slimmer tires changed the whole characteristic between the G and Z. Having mildly modded the G to fix the essential performance of the G, I was able to give it a more handling prowess. But steering feel kept it feeling a little numb. Even with the wider tires. That's cuz, nissan dialed in the steering differently. It was too light. It showed even with wider tires. I realized the Z was just a better dialed in car after5 or so test drives. Sold my G and Got a Z. Coming from an Rx7 as my last 2 seater. I was actually pleased with the Z. It felt similar behind the steering wheel except the Z was less nimble. The FD was underpowered by comparison though. That was the trade off.
I want the Z to stay in the same direction as sports cars of then. I don't want it to become a permenent LS/GT sports car. Nissan did it with the Z32, and mazda dulled down the FD with the RX8. That's a trend that bothers me. Now you can use a poor review of gadgetry to to discredit me. But on a driving standpoint. I HOD MY GROUND ON MY BEHIND THE wheel expeience. 8' no track whore... But I'm a serious DRIVING enthusiast. As we all are... BS??? Whatever man. You are just being a fanboi who can't handle differing opinions or constructive criticisms that go against your bubble. But hey, more power to you. I'm done.

popcorn here! :drama::drama: get your popcorn ready looks like the makings of a good one!:drama:

Please guys enough, all the nonsense will get this thread sidetracked and locked. The thread is about 2013 arrivals, anything else should be put into 2013 opinions thread.

To get us back on track here.....got home from work today and the phone rang; it was the dealership calling to tell me my '13 Z arrived today.

I pick it up tomorrow!

:happydance: :tiphat: :driving:

Picture time!

:icon18: Congrats Dawg :tup:

Picked up my Z on Friday! :happydance:

I have to go back and get the splashguards put on that were part of the deal I made.

I know...post is worthless without pictures, so....

Wow man that blue looks amazing! Really great color, looks like the Porsche blue.

:iagree: I like the darker blue > then old bright blue

:tup:

:excited::excited::excited:

Making me want mine more now! Wish these refi. deals would happen fast (though it is only supposed to take 30 days for me).


I don't quite agree with this, as the Monterrey Blue is/was the best color I've seen in a while.

wow i would trade for that dark blue if i could wow pretty