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Fastfatdude 06-13-2012 07:13 AM

How to you close rear hatch?
 
should i let it fall and slam close? or press it down while hatch is resting on the car body?

what do u guys do?

dweedlebug 06-13-2012 07:30 AM

I pull the hatch about halfway down and just let go of it.

It closes a lot easier than it opens sometimes .... If cold out, it doesn't always pop open enough and requires a few clicks of the button so I can grab it and get it past the latch.

Fastfatdude 06-13-2012 07:34 AM

used to halfway and let go, but seems a lil harsh. so wonder if push close is gentler on the whole hatch..

dweedlebug 06-13-2012 07:44 AM

Gentler maybe, but I'm pretty ham fisted and wouldn't put it past myself to end up putting a dent in the hatch from pushing down to "make sure" it's closed.

The hatch has springs and rubber stoppers. I just let 'er drop.

kenchan 06-13-2012 09:02 AM

i grab the outer edges of the hatch (not to put smears on the finish) and pull it down, drop it from about 1/4 to close. and push gently down on the spoiler as it closes. shouldn't need much force.

it's the hood that needs to be dropped from pretty high inorder to get both latches to lock correctly. :icon14:

anthonyy 06-13-2012 09:16 AM

I grab the metal latch and yank it down

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kenchan 06-13-2012 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by anthonyy (Post 1769519)
I grab the metal latch and yank it down

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ewww... no one grabs that.

Chan Chee Hoe 06-13-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastfatdude (Post 1769322)
should i let it fall and slam close? or press it down while hatch is resting on the car body?

what do u guys do?

Pull the hatch down to the last 15-20cm,& let it fell.

shadoquad 06-13-2012 09:26 AM

I put my hands on the lid and close it like a baws

MattP725 06-13-2012 09:57 AM

Medium pressure on the spoiler all the way to close.

Fastfatdude 06-13-2012 10:17 AM

pressure on the spoiler won't cause it to flex? and put more pressure on the screw mountings of the spoiler-hatch?

kenchan 06-13-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastfatdude (Post 1769677)
pressure on the spoiler won't cause it to flex? and put more pressure on the screw mountings of the spoiler-hatch?

i dont really apply pressure, just a gentle assist in the fall really from about 1/4 open. (10" drop?)

4r3s 06-13-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonyy (Post 1769519)
I grab the metal latch and yank it down

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1769520)
ewww... no one grabs that.

That's what I do :ugh2:

Bonzo 06-13-2012 12:39 PM

Manual says explicitly to NOT push down on the spoiler, only the hatch door itself. It's in there, I read it.

Your guy's hatches must close easier than mine. I can't drop it from any height. It doesn't close all the way even form the highest point. I have to give it quite a slam to get it to close, more than I would like. :confused:

To be sure I apply even pressure I use the edge of my palm on the top back edge of the door, centered side to side, and give it a downward swhoosh. I release my hand from the door prior to it actually stopping and closing.

I don't think I'm doing any physical harm to the door, but I am worried about unnecessary scratches, especially when the wife does it with her ring on etc.

I have some extra clear bra material left over and have considered cutting a chunk and applying it back there.

DarkJak 06-13-2012 12:49 PM

I let it swing close with a thud. Much like I'd close a door. It'd be weird to let a door almost close and then push it that last cm to close. Same for the hatch in my head. There are those spring rubber stops to protect it.

vividracing 06-13-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1769898)
Manual says explicitly to NOT push down on the spoiler, only the hatch door itself. It's in there, I read it.

Your guy's hatches must close easier than mine. I can't drop it from any height. It doesn't close all the way even form the highest point. I have to give it quite a slam to get it to close, more than I would like. :confused:

To be sure I apply even pressure I use the edge of my palm on the top back edge of the door, centered side to side, and give it a downward swhoosh. I release my hand from the door prior to it actually stopping and closing.

I don't think I'm doing any physical harm to the door, but I am worried about unnecessary scratches, especially when the wife does it with her ring on etc.

I have some extra clear bra material left over and have considered cutting a chunk and applying it back there.

Sounds like your hatch might be slightly out of alignment.

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 1769916)
I let it swing close with a thud. Much like I'd close a door. It'd be weird to let a door almost close and then push it that last cm to close. Same for the hatch in my head. There are those spring rubber stops to protect it.

I guess I'm a weirdo, because that's how I usually close doors lol

kenchan 06-13-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1769898)
Manual says explicitly to NOT push down on the spoiler, only the hatch door itself. It's in there, I read it.

Your guy's hatches must close easier than mine. I can't drop it from any height. It doesn't close all the way even form the highest point. I have to give it quite a slam to get it to close, more than I would like. :confused:
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that's why on your car it specifically says not to push down on the spoiler. :icon17:

btw, if you're referring to my post, i dont PUSH down on it. i just gently keep the momentum going downward. i have the mine's cf lip on the spoiler. i press on that which means, i dont PUSH it down hard at all.

it's hard to grab just the edge of that hatch anyway. i rather not risk scratching the finish.

Bonzo 06-13-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1769935)
Sounds like your hatch might be slightly out of alignment.

I don't think so, but I could be wrong. :confused:

But I don't understand how all yours just close from the weight. My shocks must be stronger than yours or something. If I have my front doors & windows closed, I have to swhoosh my trunk with quite some effort; it does not just "plunk" shut from a light push and gravity.

Now if the front door or windows are open, not so much.

Telephone 06-13-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1769898)
Manual says explicitly to NOT push down on the spoiler, only the hatch door itself. It's in there, I read it.

Your guy's hatches must close easier than mine. I can't drop it from any height. It doesn't close all the way even form the highest point. I have to give it quite a slam to get it to close, more than I would like. :confused:

To be sure I apply even pressure I use the edge of my palm on the top back edge of the door, centered side to side, and give it a downward swhoosh. I release my hand from the door prior to it actually stopping and closing.

I don't think I'm doing any physical harm to the door, but I am worried about unnecessary scratches, especially when the wife does it with her ring on etc.

I have some extra clear bra material left over and have considered cutting a chunk and applying it back there.

Could this be a 2012 thing? I also must manually push it closed as dropping it won't close it completely. Oh, and I never touch the spoiler upon closing.

shadoquad 06-13-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1769898)
Manual says explicitly to NOT push down on the spoiler, only the hatch door itself. It's in there, I read it.

Your guy's hatches must close easier than mine. I can't drop it from any height. It doesn't close all the way even form the highest point. I have to give it quite a slam to get it to close, more than I would like. :confused:

To be sure I apply even pressure I use the edge of my palm on the top back edge of the door, centered side to side, and give it a downward swhoosh. I release my hand from the door prior to it actually stopping and closing.

I don't think I'm doing any physical harm to the door, but I am worried about unnecessary scratches, especially when the wife does it with her ring on etc.

I have some extra clear bra material left over and have considered cutting a chunk and applying it back there.

Ah, my car's tush lacks a spoiler, so this is a non issue. If it doesn't close tight when I bring it down, I just put my palm on the deck lid and gently push down.

MattP725 06-13-2012 01:57 PM

I use the inside of my knuckle to apply some pressure on the outside lip of the spoiler and have had no issues with flex or anything even remotely damaging the body. I am sure there is more force from the wind when driving at high speeds than there is from my 2-3 fingers I use.

The manual prints things like that to avoid liability when some sasquatch rips the spoiler off.

Viera 06-13-2012 01:57 PM

I bring it down gently, then let it come on down on her own ;)

SailFree 06-13-2012 02:01 PM

1) Manual says DO NOT PRESS DOWN ON SPOILER.
2) If latch is a bit misaligned, slamming or dropping can cause hatch to warp a little. I think this happened to the hood of my Infiniti when I was selling it and let a guy drive it around for a half hour. I didn't notice till next morning.

3) The auto body experts I asked say to lower hood or hatch, make sure the latches are aligned, and then press down over the latch areas.

my2004Z 06-13-2012 02:03 PM

I cross-body block the entire hatch Jimmy Superfly Snuka style!

kenchan 06-13-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailFree (Post 1770065)
1) Manual says DO NOT PRESS DOWN ON SPOILER.
2) If latch is a bit misaligned, slamming or dropping can cause hatch to warp a little. I think this happened to the hood of my Infiniti when I was selling it and let a guy drive it around for a half hour. I didn't notice till next morning.

3) The auto body experts I asked say to lower hood or hatch, make sure the latches are aligned, and then press down over the latch areas.

that's because dumbarses will put their weight on the spoiler... :ugh2: let's use some common sense here...

also, i would never do the 'make sure the latches are aligned, press down on the hood' on the Z. you will risk bending the hood. :ugh2:

sailfree- it is time you rely on experience and not just data. :icon17:

Bonzo 06-13-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1769937)
btw, if you're referring to my post, i dont PUSH down on it. i just gently keep the momentum going downward. i have the mine's cf lip on the spoiler. i press on that which means, i dont PUSH it down hard at all.

If I recall, I think the manual says not to use it at all, even to touch it, because it could loosen up the way it's attached or something. Crap I don't remember from back in December.

I don't "PUSH" on anything either. I hate when people lightly drop their hood then push latch it shut. Guy at the dealer did it to the Z he was trying to sell me and I cringed. Or when their door doesn't close all the way they push on it to close it. No no, not for me. I reopen then close it properly.

Quote:

it's hard to grab just the edge of that hatch anyway. i rather not risk scratching the finish.
I totally agree. That's why I'd love to do it differently, but mine seems to be harder than yours. I can not lightly just help gravity.

I'll have to go out and test when my shocks start to grab and pull up.

kenchan 06-13-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1770083)
If I recall, I think the manual says not to use it at all, even to touch it, because it could loosen up the way it's attached or something. Crap I don't remember from back in December.

I don't "PUSH" on anything either. I hate when people lightly drop their hood then push latch it shut. Guy at the dealer did it to the Z he was trying to sell me and I cringed. Or when their door doesn't close all the way they push on it to close it. No no, not for me. I reopen then close it properly.

I totally agree. That's why I'd love to do it differently, but mine seems to be harder than yours. I can not lightly just help gravity.

I'll have to go out and test when my shocks start to grab and pull up.

yah, im just preventing the hatch from bouncing off the stops when it closes really. no real force needed at all. ive not noticed anything change on mine. i do the same on the G as well. she's 8yrs old (original owner) and no issue.

Cmike2780 06-13-2012 02:33 PM

Just drive. The downforce will close it for you.

Bonzo 06-13-2012 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1770094)
yah, im just preventing the hatch from bouncing off the stops when it closes really. no real force needed at all. ive not noticed anything change on mine. i do the same on the G as well. she's 8yrs old (original owner) and no issue.

So how hard is yours to lift?

I'm sure these things are designed to be balanced just right so it's possible if its off it makes a difference. We've got Lamborghini Countach doors here.

I know Nissan made a big deal about how the original Murano hatch door was designed and produced from special materials to allow for (basically) old women to be able to both open and close it easily. The door is very light going up, and when coming down, you pull it lightly to a certain point, let go, and it basically closes itself from there. My Z hatch does NOT work like that.

anthonyy 06-13-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1769520)
ewww... no one grabs that.

:ughdance: I guess I'm unique in that way... :p

But seriously, what's wrong with using the metal latch? I just prefer not to ever touch my paint.

GaleForce 06-13-2012 03:26 PM

I let my trunk monkey close the hatch. Best investment ever!

kenchan 06-13-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1770174)
So how hard is yours to lift?

I'm sure these things are designed to be balanced just right so it's possible if its off it makes a difference. We've got Lamborghini Countach doors here.

I know Nissan made a big deal about how the original Murano hatch door was designed and produced from special materials to allow for (basically) old women to be able to both open and close it easily. The door is very light going up, and when coming down, you pull it lightly to a certain point, let go, and it basically closes itself from there. My Z hatch does NOT work like that.

not hard at all to lift on mine. i can use one finger and lift it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonyy (Post 1770208)
:ughdance: I guess I'm unique in that way... :p

But seriously, what's wrong with using the metal latch? I just prefer not to ever touch my paint.

doesnt that have grease on it? :ugh2: i dont mind oil/grease while working on my cars, but not when im not. i like to keep my hands clean.

Bonzo 06-13-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1770216)
doesnt that have grease on it? i dont mind oil/grease while working on my cars, but not when im not. i like to keep my hands clean.

^^^This.

Also, none the less, I tried it once on mine, and I'm telling you, I can't do it this way even if I wanted. Not unless I want a smashed hand. I have to swoosh hard and long enough that there isn't time to get my hand out of harms way. I think if Nissan thought we would wanted this and could do it, they would have added a small purposeful handle to grab.

Bottom line, gravity doesn't close mine like yours. :confused:

kenchan 06-13-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1770252)
^^^This.

Also, none the less, I tried it once on mine, and I'm telling you, I can't do it this way even if I wanted. Not unless I want a smashed hand. I have to swoosh hard and long enough that there isn't time to get my hand out of harms way. I think if Nissan thought we would wanted this and could do it, they would have added a small purposeful handle to grab.

Bottom line, gravity doesn't close mine like yours. :confused:

yah, that's wierd... your dampers are probably higher rate than mine.

anthonyy 06-13-2012 06:17 PM

that's interesting. I'm thinking that the rear cargo hatch cover has something to do with requiring more force to close.

Anyways, I usually use the metal latch and no grease on mine... at least not anymore. :ugh2: If it's supposed to be greased, I definitely shouldn't be pulling on it.

SailFree 06-13-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1770074)
that's because dumbarses will put their weight on the spoiler... :ugh2: let's use some common sense here...

also, i would never do the 'make sure the latches are aligned, press down on the hood' on the Z. you will risk bending the hood. :ugh2:

sailfree- it is time you rely on experience and not just data. :icon17:

Hi, Kenchan,

Some day, if I live long enough, I'll have all the experience I need. Be 71 this month.

I always liked the following:

"Experience is a great teacher--and a fool will have no other..."

I've also thought I could learn from the experience of others, not just my own, such as the body shop guys and the local car club folks, both of whom told me never to drop or slam a hood, always make sure the latch is aligned and then press it closed. I note that none of them had bent hoods. I'll let you know in 7-8 years...

--SailFree

SailFree 06-13-2012 07:33 PM

Shoulda thought of that!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1770214)
I let my trunk monkey close the hatch. Best investment ever!

I feel like an idiot--that is a great idea!

GaleForce 06-13-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailFree (Post 1770512)
I feel like an idiot--that is a great idea!

I know, it was a bad joke, but I loved those little videos...

didymus 06-13-2012 08:05 PM

Mine definitely does not close as easily as most of yours

UchinanchuZee 06-13-2012 08:06 PM

I go get fairlady badges and let the homage close it for me!


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