Avoiding the bashing!

tommyguns · 06-07-2012, 11:45 AM

This is just a little advice to all our wonderful sponsor/dealers that sell their goods here. Sometimes what may seem obvious to you the designers of some of the coolest aftermarket parts available on the market, is just not that obvious to the purchaser!
If you take the time to make these things then why can't you take the time to write up and include directions, all this drama could be avoided. Now just again I read another thread were the OP was killing said part for fitment issues, when after all the bashing, the dealer comes in and explains that the OP was not installing it properly, after which he explained how it should be done and problem solved, all that wasted time and drama. What he explained was not that obvious but made perfect sence and said part looked perfect.
Now I say this from experience, I've purchased many items for my car and have installed them myself, that includes the Type III wing and just the other day a Spec ME lip. I won't go into the specifics of just those two items, but after writing up my install for the ME lip, the seller/designer comes on to give me props for the write up, which I thank him for, but if you have the chance to read it there is no chance in the world a customer should have to know this beforehand or would know this. I'm a risk taker so I'm prepared to do what is necessary to install my part (remember the "original nismo intake install"). I mean come on, there was nine holes in the deck of the hatch after removing the sport spoiler and not one was even used for what would have been a great matching point for a TEMPLATE to drill the new holes!
So this is not about just one item, but for some reason it's the norm around here to not be supplied with instructions our even post the install procedure. Knowing not to use tape was a choice of mine and it turns out you shouldn't use tape for this install

, or having to remove the bumper to achieve the best fitment are things that should be told up front at point of purchase and not after giving props to the purchaser that took the time to do your said job.
Now please notice how I'm choosing my words, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm also a business owner and know firsthand how hard it is to stay in business, so please do not take offence to this, please just use it as advice and avoid the DRAMA.
Kindest regards,
Thomas Pomatico

kenchan · 06-07-2012, 11:56 AM

use paragraphs... or outline form. not sure wat you posted.

Apoc370z · 06-07-2012, 12:06 PM

Ok dad!

tommyguns · 06-07-2012, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

use paragraphs... or outline form. not sure wat you posted.

I hope that makes you "HAPPY" Chief of Grammar and Proper spelling.

tommyguns · 06-07-2012, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z

Ok dad!

You know its a funny thing, there's guys that appreciate things and then there's some that don't. I bet I get more thanks then whatever it is your trying to prove.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-07-2012, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns

This is just a little advice to all our wonderful sponsor/dealers that sell their goods here. Sometimes what may seem obvious to you the designers of some of the coolest aftermarket parts available on the market, is just not that obvious to the purchaser!
If you take the time to make these things then why can't you take the time to write up and include directions, all this drama could be avoided. Now just again I read another thread were the OP was killing said part for fitment issues, when after all the bashing, the dealer comes in and explains that the OP was not installing it properly, after which he explained how it should be done and problem solved, all that wasted time and drama. What he explained was not that obvious but made perfect sence and said part looked perfect.
Now I say this from experience, I've purchased many items for my car and have installed them myself, that includes the Type III wing and just the other day a Spec ME lip. I won't go into the specifics of just those two items, but after writing up my install for the ME lip, the seller/designer comes on to give me props for the write up, which I thank him for, but if you have the chance to read it there is no chance in the world a customer should have to know this beforehand or would know this. I'm a risk taker so I'm prepared to do what is necessary to install my part (remember the "original nismo intake install"). I mean come on, there was nine holes in the deck of the hatch after removing the sport spoiler and not one was even used for what would have been a great matching point for a TEMPLATE to drill the new holes!
So this is not about just one item, but for some reason it's the norm around here to not be supplied with instructions our even post the install procedure. Knowing not to use tape was a choice of mine and it turns out you shouldn't use tape for this install

, or having to remove the bumper to achieve the best fitment are things that should be told up front at point of purchase and not after giving props to the purchaser that took the time to do your said job.
Now please notice how I'm choosing my words, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm also a business owner and know firsthand how hard it is to stay in business, so please do not take offence to this, please just use it as advice and avoid the DRAMA.
Kindest regards,
Thomas Pomatico

You make valid points... repped.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-07-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyguns

You know its a funny thing, there's guys that appreciate things and then there's some that don't. I bet I get more thanks then whatever it is your trying to prove.

Don't feed into it... all you're doing is attracting the Krony-Krew up in here and you will be doing it all day. Don't let a few guys detract some valid points up in here.

tommyguns · 06-07-2012, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You make valid points... repped.

Thank you so much. I'm not trying to be a d!ck I'm just saying thats all.

6MT · 06-07-2012, 12:25 PM

Valid pionts. But there seems to be quite a few on these forums that seem to want everything for nothing or very little. (speaking from experience).

tommyguns · 06-07-2012, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT

Valid pionts. But there seems to be quite a few on these forums that seem to want everything for nothing or very little. (speaking from experience).

I know just what you’re saying, going on that premise, if posted it wouldn't cost a dime. But I do understand what you’re saying!

tonybui · 06-07-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Don't feed into it... all you're doing is attracting the Krony-Krew up in here and you will be doing it all day. Don't let a few guys detract some valid points up in here.

Agreed !!

Apoc370z · 06-07-2012, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyguns

You know its a funny thing, there's guys that appreciate things and then there's some that don't. I bet I get more thanks then whatever it is your trying to prove.

You know its a funny thing that you or anyone else took my post seriously. I have been in forums (not just this one) long enough to know that it doesnt matter how well behaved or how well mannered the community is, there will always be whiners and cry babies. It is almost unavoidable.

Its usually not the sponsors' fault but how the individuals act. So dont take it too seriously.

Mino · 06-07-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z

You know its a funny thing that you or anyone else took my post seriously. I have been in forums (not just this one) long enough to know that it doesnt matter how well behaved or how well mannered the community is, there will always be whiners and cry babies. It is almost unavoidable.

Its usually not the sponsors' fault but how the individuals act. So dont take it too seriously.

Very true

bigdog1250 · 06-07-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z

You know its a funny thing that you or anyone else took my post seriously. I have been in forums (not just this one) long enough to know that it doesnt matter how well behaved or how well mannered the community is, there will always be whiners and cry babies. It is almost unavoidable.

Its usually not the sponsors' fault but how the individuals act. So dont take it too seriously.

What was the point of your post then, for comedy? Cause it sure wasn't funny, just annoying.

OP was trying to provide valuable feedback for the Sponsors which in turn helps the customers and saves everyone time, money and hassle.

bigdog1250 · 06-07-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

Valid pionts. But there seems to be quite a few on these forums that seem to want everything for nothing or very little. (speaking from experience).

A smart and successful business owner should want to please his customers, and providing proper instructions doesn't seem like a stretch... especially when it saves EVERYONE time and frustration.

06-07-2012, 11:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
tommyguns Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Age: 65 Posts: 914 Drives: 370Z/Sport/Black/MT Rep Power: 18	Avoiding the bashing! This is just a little advice to all our wonderful sponsor/dealers that sell their goods here. Sometimes what may seem obvious to you the designers of some of the coolest aftermarket parts available on the market, is just not that obvious to the purchaser! If you take the time to make these things then why can't you take the time to write up and include directions, all this drama could be avoided. Now just again I read another thread were the OP was killing said part for fitment issues, when after all the bashing, the dealer comes in and explains that the OP was not installing it properly, after which he explained how it should be done and problem solved, all that wasted time and drama. What he explained was not that obvious but made perfect sence and said part looked perfect. Now I say this from experience, I've purchased many items for my car and have installed them myself, that includes the Type III wing and just the other day a Spec ME lip. I won't go into the specifics of just those two items, but after writing up my install for the ME lip, the seller/designer comes on to give me props for the write up, which I thank him for, but if you have the chance to read it there is no chance in the world a customer should have to know this beforehand or would know this. I'm a risk taker so I'm prepared to do what is necessary to install my part (remember the "original nismo intake install"). I mean come on, there was nine holes in the deck of the hatch after removing the sport spoiler and not one was even used for what would have been a great matching point for a TEMPLATE to drill the new holes! So this is not about just one item, but for some reason it's the norm around here to not be supplied with instructions our even post the install procedure. Knowing not to use tape was a choice of mine and it turns out you shouldn't use tape for this install , or having to remove the bumper to achieve the best fitment are things that should be told up front at point of purchase and not after giving props to the purchaser that took the time to do your said job. Now please notice how I'm choosing my words, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm also a business owner and know firsthand how hard it is to stay in business, so please do not take offence to this, please just use it as advice and avoid the DRAMA. Kindest regards, Thomas Pomatico __________________ 09 Sport / MB / 6sd / Nismo"R" Intake / Eibach Pro Kit / Z1 25 row cooler / JWT LW FW / New Short Block 3/11/11 /H&R 15fr 20rr/DBA 4000/FI CB with 12"res./Morel/JL/"Division"mod/SPC/EcuTek/M370/ZEX C SHOT/ART's/NRG Last edited by tommyguns; 06-07-2012 at 12:07 PM.

06-07-2012, 12:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
6MT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: ITU Zone 2 Posts: 22,459 Drives: Reliant Robin Rep Power: 1791	Valid pionts. But there seems to be quite a few on these forums that seem to want everything for nothing or very little. (speaking from experience). __________________ Andrew 2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold 2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

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