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Originally Posted by fly yellow The government has too much authority over the car industry now, and there are too many people that have given a ton of money to

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Old 06-14-2009, 11:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The government has too much authority over the car industry now, and there are too many people that have given a ton of money to politicians to make sure we all buy into this unproven global warming deal.

Sports cars will still exist, but they will be harder to get in the states. Someone mentioned the CTS-V. It is an amazing and beautiful car. It also carries a $7,000 gas guzzler tax. That isn't a lot of money for a Ferrari or a Lambo, but for a $70,000 car it can be. The United States will no longer be the primary target market for car makers. Countries like China and India are embracing capitalism while we are moving away from it. Those countries have far more population than we do and they sure aren't concerned about global warming. China is buying up oil reserves at a record pace.
your right on.. the mid-level sports car "i think" will be the most endangered. 70k+ cars will still be around but the 70k car will now be 90k and so on up the line.
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Also may I add. I haven’t been keeping up with the news as far as all this gas / oil / global warming honkey. But If we are truly running low on oil. Hopefully the brainiacs of the world can create a hybrid gas that will be able to replace our regular gasoline with out having to change any major engine components in our current cars. Wishfully thinking in a perfect world. Because I dont see myself driving a hybrid in the near future.
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Old 06-15-2009, 12:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Also may I add. I haven’t been keeping up with the news as far as all this gas / oil / global warming honkey. But If we are truly running low on oil. Hopefully the brainiacs of the world can create a hybrid gas that will be able to replace our regular gasoline with out having to change any major engine components in our current cars. Wishfully thinking in a perfect world. Because I dont see myself driving a hybrid in the near future.
We really aren't running out of oil. I'm sure you will start hearing about "peak oil" again once gas prices climb over 3 bucks a gallon, just like we did last summer. We also heard about "peak oil" in the 70's during the gas crunch. That was over 30 years ago. The fact is that right now the oil supply is very high, and demand is also low. OPEC nations are holding it back because they want to artificially drive the price up to $100 a barrel. Our government is more than happy to see them do this because the only way to get people to buy these crazy cars they are pushing is for gas to come close to 5 bucks a gallon.

My question to those that believe in all of this global warming BS is this: What good does it do to have a country of 300 million people crippling their economy to keep the planet green when China and India have a combined population of over 2 billion and they are polluting at a record pace? Unless we put a "Simpsonesque" dome over our country our efforts are really wasted. Even if man truly is destroying the planet, then we might as well "somoke em' if we got em'", because a majority of the planet's population is not going to do anything to stop it.
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There are many scientist that believe the plant produces oil naturually on its own and we wont ever run out. Its the best reNEWable resurce we have.
dont wanta get off topic though.. if the muscle cars go away maybe we can build are own KIT cars with jap. engines.. that would be nice.
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Not only is global "warming" not a foregone conclusion, but the language has changed. It is now called "climate change". Why? Because the last three years have been among the COLDEST since we've been keeping records. Even the guy seemingly making the most money off of "climate change" (Al Gore) doesn't call it "Global Warming" anymore. Given the recent statistical analysis, it's just not credible.

Global COOLING -- which IS real -- is causing some real problems. Agricultural productivity in both hemispheres has suffered the last two years because of low temperatures. (The Dakotas are still getting SNOW this year -- and it's mid-June!)

The leading theory is that global cooling is due to low sunspot activity. There seems to be a direct, long-term correlation between sunspot cycles and global temperature cycles. When sunspot activity picks up again (as it always has), global temperatures will pick up again (as they always have).

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Muscle Car ----> Global Warming


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Sorry LSU, never intented personally attack you or anyone else. When I said uneducated I meant specifically about this issue, not that you are an idiot. I do believe there is overwhelming support in favor that global warming exists but I'll stop trying to convince you. Whether or not it is real, I do think that it is too late to do anything to stop it. All we can do as a nation/planet is to slow it down but the effects will happen regardless. Go to places like the Aspen ski resort and ask them how global warming as affected them.

Anyway, I do agreee with you that the government oversight is getting very out of hand we need to be very careful if we wish to continue enjoying our freedoms.
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no worries benfiji. its a hot button issue for sure. I told myself not to do it when I originally posted, but I didn't listen.

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my idea is crazy and radical......... Global warming is taking effect already and we are at a point of no return...we would all have to sop polluting for a 100 years in order to save the planet.....that's not going to happen....let other ppl buy Prius's and i'll get a G and/or a Z and enjoy whats left.
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Thanks for hijacking my thread. What a bunch of jerks!!!
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Thanks for hijacking my thread. What a bunch of jerks!!!
No problem! We always like to turn boring threads into interesting ones.
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F-Off **** breath! Punks like you that give forums bad names.
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F-Off **** breath! Punks like you that give forums bad names.
I guess you didn't get the sarcasm. That's okay. Sarcasm detectors are notoriously unreliable. Still, might want to give yours a check-up.

Anyone taking bets on how long before this thread gets locked?
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Times change, it's as cliche as that. But the new things that arise usually have more pluses than minuses.

Supposedly a hybrid 370 is coming out soon. I would've taken that instead of my "traditional" 370 had they both been available.
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Times change, it's as cliche as that. But the new things that arise usually have more pluses than minuses.

Supposedly a hybrid 370 is coming out soon. I would've taken that instead of my "traditional" 370 had they both been available.
you would?? the batteries and motors would push it to the 4000lb mark , not to mention the weight balance.. what fun would that be? it would just be a sexy looking car with no performance.. if you want a 2 seater hybrid pick up a used insight... probably have better MPG and performace.
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