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I'm about to pull the trigger on a brand new 2012 nismo. The deal seems great, the dealer stated $500 over dealer invoice plus tax & DMV fees. The car

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Old 05-17-2012, 08:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm about to pull the trigger on a brand new 2012 nismo. The deal seems great, the dealer stated $500 over dealer invoice plus tax & DMV fees. The car has 14 miles on the odometer and MSRP is approx. $42,200. I have some questions though: What exactly should I be paying for this car, I believe between 37 & 38,000 plus tax & DMV fees. I like that the 2012 nismo has an oil cooler but should I wait a couple more months for the 2013 which I heard will have some upgrades. At the same time I'm thinking this price is too good to pass up. I probably won't get a good deal on a 2013 when they first come out. Please advise me. thanks.
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I paid $1400 below invoice when I bought mine (non-nismo). As for upgrades, the 2013 has a new front bumper and new Rays wheels and that's it as far as I know. IMO, it looks worse than the current one so I would def get the 2012, but looks are subjective.
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your sig says you already have a 370, any reason why you are getting another one?
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No indication that the 2013 Nismo will be any different... the changes are for the non-Nismo.

Not sure how much better of a deal you will get on a Nismo since they generally are more sought after.
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your sig says you already have a 370, any reason why you are getting another one?
Yeah, I did, sold it, long story, I had a loaded 6spd tour, spt, nav in black. Ready for another, so now I'm thinking Nismo in silver 2nd time around.
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Get the 12' Nismo.......
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13' Nismo has only dark colored Rays, red brakes, slight insignificant brake upgrades, and upgraded stereo. Is it worth it over a 12', not exactly. A deal on a 12' now probably couldn't be matched. Could you dig the Nismo interior after having Touring and Nav?
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13' Nismo has only dark colored Rays, red brakes, slight insignificant brake upgrades, and upgraded stereo. Is it worth it over a 12', not exactly. A deal on a 12' now probably couldn't be matched. Could you dig the Nismo interior after having Touring and Nav?

Ur serious??? INSIGNIFICANT brake upgrades. Better pads and a brake cooling kit is NOT minor. As catastrophic our brakes can be on a track without brake cooling and better pads I would hardly call it insignificant.

Get the 2013 if you plan on tracking your car? The upgrades should be good enough for it to be track capable. If you don't plan on doing any kind of off road events then maybe this current deal may be ideal?

We only know what nissan has written. Count on it that nissan only tells you half of what will be in the package. Right before the NISMO'S release we will know the full details on the Z lineup. As of yet there's no power upgrades and possibly won't be any... but, other functionality upgrades may be surprisingly good?
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Ur serious??? INSIGNIFICANT brake upgrades. Better pads and a brake cooling kit is NOT minor. As catastrophic our brakes can be on a track without brake cooling and better pads I would hardly call it insignificant.

Get the 2013 if you plan on tracking your car? The upgrades should be good enough for it to be track capable. If you don't plan on doing any kind of off road events then maybe this current deal may be ideal?

We only know what nissan has written. Count on it that nissan only tells you half of what will be in the package. Right before the NISMO'S release we will know the full details on the Z lineup. As of yet there's no power upgrades and possibly won't be any... but, other functionality upgrades may be surprisingly good?
13 nismo doesn' thave brake cooling, only stiffer brake lines ala the GTR and aftermarket braided lines will still be an upgrade to those--they're just stiffer rubber lines. Pads are irrelevant imo, unless the 13 nismo comes with XP8's or equivalent (it doesn't) then pads still should be changed prior to hpde event. I'm guessing the nismo pads are standard, not up to track use.

If the OP LOVES OEM upgraded stereos and slightly dark wheels vs silver, then the 13 nismo is right, if not, then save $$$ and get the 12.
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13 nismo doesn' thave brake cooling, only stiffer brake lines ala the GTR and aftermarket braided lines will still be an upgrade to those--they're just stiffer rubber lines. Pads are irrelevant imo, unless the 13 nismo comes with XP8's or equivalent (it doesn't) then pads still should be changed prior to hpde event. I'm guessing the nismo pads are standard, not up to track use.

If the OP LOVES OEM upgraded stereos and slightly dark wheels vs silver, then the 13 nismo is right, if not, then save $$$ and get the 12.
+1... No brake cooling and pads are exactly the same. Just brake lines are different and fluid is different. This is insignificant and can be done with a little money. Thank you for clearing it up FL 4Motion.
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13 nismo doesn' thave brake cooling, only stiffer brake lines ala the GTR and aftermarket braided lines will still be an upgrade to those--they're just stiffer rubber lines. Pads are irrelevant imo, unless the 13 nismo comes with XP8's or equivalent (it doesn't) then pads still should be changed prior to hpde event. I'm guessing the nismo pads are standard, not up to track use.

If the OP LOVES OEM upgraded stereos and slightly dark wheels vs silver, then the 13 nismo is right, if not, then save $$$ and get the 12.
My bad... for some reason I thought I. Read brake cooling hoses. But its rigid brake hoses and high performance brake fluid. I found that here.

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But I did read another article where they said they are redesigning the NISMO pads for better track use in 2013. in that article though they didn't specify if it was for the car, s tune or r tune... I guess I just assumed it would go on the nismo. Again my bad... either way though. Even the line upgrade is a huge safety measure and is far from insignificant. Since there are no styling changes... I would wait and see how much they will really do. Nissan never says everything.

Like the oil cooler. We found out 2 weeks before the car was released. When the future spec sheet hit the nissan website 2 months earlier. It stated NO changes. It turned out we got the oil cooler. And I do know of a lot of tweaks on the Z most don't know about.
Having had an 09 and now an 11. I can tell you there's a big difference in ride quality and engine harshness. So I would wait.
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Brake liens are a pretty inexpensive upgrade to do yourself so if he's getting a good deal on the '12, I think that's the way to go. As for pads, almost everyone changes out their pads for the track also.
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+1... No brake cooling and pads are exactly the same. Just brake lines are different and fluid is different. This is insignificant and can be done with a little money. Thank you for clearing it up FL 4Motion.


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My bad... for some reason I thought I. Read brake cooling hoses. But its rigid brake hoses and high performance brake fluid. I found that here.

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But I did read another article where they said they are redesigning the NISMO pads for better track use in 2013. in that article though they didn't specify if it was for the car, s tune or r tune... I guess I just assumed it would go on the nismo. Again my bad... either way though. Even the line upgrade is a huge safety measure and is far from insignificant. Since there are no styling changes... I would wait and see how much they will really do. Nissan never says everything.

Like the oil cooler. We found out 2 weeks before the car was released. When the future spec sheet hit the nissan website 2 months earlier. It stated NO changes. It turned out we got the oil cooler. And I do know of a lot of tweaks on the Z most don't know about.
Having had an 09 and now an 11. I can tell you there's a big difference in ride quality and engine harshness. So I would wait.
I would still try to steer the OP toward saving the $$$ up front with a good deal on a leftover 12. You're right, manufactures regularly "sneak in" little changes every year but I don't think any of them will warrant the $$$ difference imo.

TBH, at this point, I'm over the 370z and eagerly anticipating the the Z35 and what (hopefully) it will bring to the table to address all the Z34's weak points. Looking at nissan's production history with the 350 z as a benchmark, there's only 2 more years of 370z production left (13 and 14) and then they'll retire the platform at the 6 year mark and either wait one year or immediately bring in the new model.

/\ off topic, but IF it were me, I'd be very very tempted to just wait it out and then buy the next gen Z. You can get into a 350z Nismo for around 20-22K iirc and that would tide you over for 2-3 years and save serious $$$ until the new Z is out. my 2cents.
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Brake liens are a pretty inexpensive upgrade to do yourself so if he's getting a good deal on the '12, I think that's the way to go. As for pads, almost everyone changes out their pads for the track also.

If you believe the preliminary spec sheet is the end all be all to the update list they provided 5 months before release then hey... knock yourself out. 6 nissans and 2 infiniti's later... I'm pretty sure that's a partial list. But hey that's just my opinion and opinions are like....
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