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kenchan · 04-10-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gaveup

Maybe where you live you don't have to worry about getting completely obliterated by a stock looking civic, but around here a 11-12 second civic isn't exactly rare. I could name at least 5 without thinking. I'd be hard pressed to name one 11 second 370Z on this forum, much less local.

do you want to go into our ignore lists?

we're only kidding... we could seriously careless about the civic's. they are neither friend or foe.

Cmike2780 · 04-10-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

And it's still a civic, still ugly, still Front wheel drive, still owned by too many teens, still slow,

must I keep going.

lol, no need to knock on the Civic. It's a great car when you look at it as something purely utilitarian...not a quick car, sports car, pocket rocket, etc...but an undeniably reliable one. My dad just bought an LX it's surprisingly comfortable for a DD. It's great on gas, relatively quiet & inexpesive to own, run or maintain. No way in hell I would trade my Z for it, but I wouldn't mind having one as a daily driver. I think a lot of hate, myself including, is from all the stigma that has plagued the wannabe boy racer that kind of ruined the image of the Civic over the years.

Huck · 04-10-2012, 02:41 PM

I'm actually laughing aloud while reading this. Partly because I used to have a civic when I was a kid, and I started remembering when I got my generic short ram intake installed and bragged about the 4hp I gained :rofl: God, I'm ashamed to admit some of the things I modded on that car....

But no, we're not hating on the civic, it's just the idea of a salesperson trying to get us to trade a Z for a civic is hilarious. It's like trading your Koenigsegg CCXR for a Hondas odyssey. Why the hell would you?

"hey, I know you have that McMillan 50 cal tactical rifle, how about I trade you this Daisy bb gun and $50?"

Sent from my iPizzle using magic and new fangled science stuff.

Cmike2780 · 04-10-2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

Maybe where you live you don't have to worry about getting completely obliterated by a stock looking civic, but around here a 11-12 second civic isn't exactly rare. I could name at least 5 without thinking. I'd be hard pressed to name one 11 second 370Z on this forum, much less local.

Here you go:
official 1/4 mile track times

They're just kidding around by the way, lol.

RiCharlie · 04-10-2012, 06:12 PM

Well actually I once owned a Civic and it was a really nice car....never bothered anybody and got good gas mileage and gave a reasonable ride. It is really a good car for what is was meant to be but I just don't see it as a really quality sports car that is in the same league as a Z..

People say the Z is better than cars costing $100,000 and if someone thinks the civic is better than the Z or at least equal to it, they are saying Honda makes a car for $25,000 that is better than many costing $100,000... That's a hell of an accomplishment!

Red__Zed · 04-10-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie

Well actually I once owned a Civic and it was a really nice car....never bothered anybody and got good gas mileage and gave a reasonable ride. It is really a good car for what is was meant to be but I just don't see it as a really quality sports car that is in the same league as a Z..

People say the Z is better than cars costing $100,000 and if someone thinks the civic is better than the Z or at least equal to it, they are saying Honda makes a car for $25,000 that is better than many costing $100,000... That's a hell of an accomplishment!

The only people that say that are delusional or prone to overpaying for camry's

ZMan8 · 04-10-2012, 06:21 PM

Look to anybody who took my comments seriously, please see the Rolf puke guy rolling around afterword.

Secondly, it's a personal choice for me not to like civics just because as someone mentioned their image was ruined by too many boy racers guys who do not understand performance and do not run 11 second 1/4. Instead they make their cars sound horrible, look worse, and make them heavier = slower.

Civic is a reliable car that can be fun with the right driver and the right know how of tuning. However, the idea of trading in a Z for one is laughable because you are virtually downgrading every category (stock for stock) except inetior/cargo room and ground clearance lol.

ZMan8 · 04-10-2012, 06:24 PM

Also, i'm a bit tired of hearing 1/4 mile time references for the Z...its not a drag race car. It belong on the curves/canyons just like 90% of all sports cars do.

End of rant

time for

kenchan · 04-10-2012, 06:25 PM

ohio built civics from my experience were not reliable at all... i had a brand new one 2006 i used as dd. was in for a week of warranty repairs within the first 1.5months (engine mount failure, front strut failure), then the car went in again for wheel bearing recall, then would not start when temps were 0F or below. i was like wtf. battery swap did not fix it either.

so anyway, i dont care either way.

ZMan8 · 04-10-2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

ohio built civics from my experience were not reliable at all... i had a brand new one 2006 i used as dd. was in for a week of warranty repairs within the first 1.5months (engine mount failure, front strut failure), then the car went in again for wheel bearing recall, then would not start when temps were 0F or below. i was like wtf. battery swap did not fix it either.

so anyway, i dont care either way.

I think older civics (96-99) were the best years. Based on all the magazine the new ones have lost their edge.

kenchan · 04-10-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

I think older civics (96-99) were the best years. Based on all the magazine the new ones have lost their edge.

i agree. i had a new 90... was very cool. i didnt know any better though.

gen after gen it got mushy and disconnected. the current civic i hear drives like a accord sedan.

theboydiddy · 04-10-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gaveup

Not for anything, but a new Si makes 201hp..and the previous one around 2006 made 197hp.

still NOT 330 HP... excuse me 332
most importantly. still a honda... i rather take the train...walk... than have a honda (i mean it) lmfao

Red__Zed · 04-10-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by theboydiddy

still NOT 330 HP... excuse me 332
most importantly. still a honda... i rather take the train...walk... than have a honda (i mean it) lmfao

Yeah, I can't see why anyone would ever want one :|

vo2max99 · 04-11-2012, 12:31 AM

The 7th Gen SI was rated@ 197 but was under rated. It really made somewhere between 210-215hp or ~ 180-185whp.

The current 8th Gen SI is rated @ 201 but it may or may not be as under rated. I'm sure it makes more torque but I preferred the last Gens 8200 rpm redline.

The shifter / clutch operation is phenomenal and for 4 cyl in sounds good in the ^ RPMs. It's a pretty fun car to drive. The main reason not to get one isn't the HP but the FWD.

If SI's power train was dropped in a RWD chassis weighing no more than ~2800lbs could have a lot of potential. Well then again that was basically already done with the S2K it's just too bad they're not made anymore due to the HP wars.

dAvenue · 04-11-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

hope you're not serious....

He must had given up on sarcasm a long time ago. Hence, the name.

04-10-2012, 02:41 PM	#18 (permalink)
Huck A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cocoa, Florida Age: 41 Posts: 5,075 Drives: Pantydropper machine Rep Power: 33	I'm actually laughing aloud while reading this. Partly because I used to have a civic when I was a kid, and I started remembering when I got my generic short ram intake installed and bragged about the 4hp I gained :rofl: God, I'm ashamed to admit some of the things I modded on that car.... But no, we're not hating on the civic, it's just the idea of a salesperson trying to get us to trade a Z for a civic is hilarious. It's like trading your Koenigsegg CCXR for a Hondas odyssey. Why the hell would you? "hey, I know you have that McMillan 50 cal tactical rifle, how about I trade you this Daisy bb gun and $50?" Sent from my iPizzle using magic and new fangled science stuff. __________________ VLEDS \| Evo-R \| Moddiction \| CF Hood Struts \| F.I. CF CBE & LTH \| Stillen CAI \| NST Pulleys \| UpRev \| Z1 \| M7 \| Status \| Forgestar \| PSS \| Whiteline \| SPL \| SPC \| Kenwood \| Zenclosure \| Kicker \| Alpine Type R

04-10-2012, 06:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 658	Look to anybody who took my comments seriously, please see the Rolf puke guy rolling around afterword. Secondly, it's a personal choice for me not to like civics just because as someone mentioned their image was ruined by too many boy racers guys who do not understand performance and do not run 11 second 1/4. Instead they make their cars sound horrible, look worse, and make them heavier = slower. Civic is a reliable car that can be fun with the right driver and the right know how of tuning. However, the idea of trading in a Z for one is laughable because you are virtually downgrading every category (stock for stock) except inetior/cargo room and ground clearance lol. __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

04-10-2012, 06:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 658	Also, i'm a bit tired of hearing 1/4 mile time references for the Z...its not a drag race car. It belong on the curves/canyons just like 90% of all sports cars do. End of rant time for __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

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04-10-2012, 06:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
RiCharlie Track Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Johnston RI Posts: 857 Drives: 370 Touring Spt A/t Rep Power: 15	Well actually I once owned a Civic and it was a really nice car....never bothered anybody and got good gas mileage and gave a reasonable ride. It is really a good car for what is was meant to be but I just don't see it as a really quality sports car that is in the same league as a Z.. People say the Z is better than cars costing $100,000 and if someone thinks the civic is better than the Z or at least equal to it, they are saying Honda makes a car for $25,000 that is better than many costing $100,000... That's a hell of an accomplishment!

04-10-2012, 06:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	ohio built civics from my experience were not reliable at all... i had a brand new one 2006 i used as dd. was in for a week of warranty repairs within the first 1.5months (engine mount failure, front strut failure), then the car went in again for wheel bearing recall, then would not start when temps were 0F or below. i was like wtf. battery swap did not fix it either. so anyway, i dont care either way.

04-11-2012, 12:31 AM	#29 (permalink)
vo2max99 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 120 Drives: 08MS3-BM-6MT Rep Power: 13	The 7th Gen SI was rated@ 197 but was under rated. It really made somewhere between 210-215hp or ~ 180-185whp. The current 8th Gen SI is rated @ 201 but it may or may not be as under rated. I'm sure it makes more torque but I preferred the last Gens 8200 rpm redline. The shifter / clutch operation is phenomenal and for 4 cyl in sounds good in the ^ RPMs. It's a pretty fun car to drive. The main reason not to get one isn't the HP but the FWD. If SI's power train was dropped in a RWD chassis weighing no more than ~2800lbs could have a lot of potential. Well then again that was basically already done with the S2K it's just too bad they're not made anymore due to the HP wars.