VDC not very intrusive?
 

I provoked VDC today coming out of a corner. I didn't provoke it that much, but I saw the flashing light, and felt a slight taper in power delivery. It felt very intelligent and did not upset the car by "over compensating".

Does VDC maintain this intelligent personality throughout the performance envelope?

The 370Z VDC is more intrusive than the one on my Prius, it is pathetic. It's not learning jack $hit other than keeping people away from cars and solid objects

My tail breaks pretty loose even with VDC on. It seems like VDC allows the car to push to.a high limit but not too much. Just enough for a good driver to stay safe. I don't mind VDC on. It does cut some power when coming out of turns though. But not enoughbto take away from the fun.

I'm surprised you think that, especially coming out of a vette. The VDC is way more intrusive in this car, borderline dangerous in some cases I believe, like when you are trying to pull out in traffic briskly and the car cuts all power.

I don't find it intrusive for day to day driving at all.

But when I want to play, I turn it off, because it doesn't like wheel spin very much.

And even when it's "off", it's still subtly active, just much less restrictive.

I like having VDC for normal driving, and I like the off button for play time.

I never provoked the traction control in my 'vette. It stayed out of my way, I stayed out of it's way. Either that, or it was so seamless and gave no indication, that I never noticed it.

I am comparing the VDC to the TC in my 2001 Trans Am, which was HORRIBLE.

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Well, there is 11 years difference in technology.

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1597852) like when you are trying to pull out in traffic briskly and the car cuts all power.

This happened to me once in my 09. As hard as I've pushed this car that's never happened. What was a little crazy that happened last week and I was on fairly smooth road and VDC was ON. I went to my left lane to pass a slow-poke and on the left I gunned it like 40% throttle and downshifted. The car kicked really hard and began fishtailing at 45mph going to 50. I let go of the throttle so the car would stop doing that. VDC blinked the whole time. But I never lost power. I just found it kinda crazy my car reacted that way. But I had control over it the whole time and at no point did I lose confidence which is most important.

i think if you keep the car stock it would not be intrusive. most of the time i keep VDC turned on. it's when you start modding and altering all the parameters the program starts to over react.

this is yet another reason why im not messing with the suspension on this car. it's fine the way it is for street.

Yeah I'll let you know next week when I'm driving around with my SC:tup:
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vdc will blow up... dont turn it off. :icon17:

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Trust me when my car was n/a I had no problem turning off the VDC now screw that I'm not turning that thing off ,probably put tape over it.

baer- check out post 4227


http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ay-ii-282.html

I got to be honest, I have never left it on for an extended period of time in the Corvette or any sports cars I have owned. I remember I forgot to turn it off once at an autox, it still drove better than the 370 where it can barely move even after you straighten out. The only reason why I compare to the Prius is because I can't turn the VDC off on that.

You have a point there. My car is mostly stock, but I do have bigger and grippier tires on it (pretty much same diameter). It might be why the system is flipping out. I can get the lights to flash doing a 10mph 90 degree turn into a parking lot. I mean I am barely on the gas and the TCS (it's the traction control, not the VDC) is blinking. It is absolutely annoying, I am sure the crappy VLSD on the car doesn't help either.

Oh yeah, the stupid VDC kicked on when a cross wind hit the car at 120mph too. I thought I was seeing things when I saw a light flashing on the dash as it happened

Yeah I seen that see that's what happens when you TT or SC your car and turn off the VDC.:bowrofl:

If you never turn it off you will never get to truely "give'er!" like mentioned above I find that some times vdc will cut all power, I could only imagine that more power would only increase how often this happens.


If its not raining/wet I drive with vdc off.......

on my modded G the VDC is intrusive.. so in snow and slippery conditions i turn it off. kinda reverse but this is the best way on some cars on slippery conditions AND if one knowz how to drive RWD.

I leave TC systems on normally. The VDC on my car has yet to annoy me in the slightest. Of course, I have not pushed it really, either. I think it's smart for the street.

it is a smart system i think too. and better to leave it on unless you're on controlled surface like on a track. never know when pebbles/debris can mess up your predictions going through a turn or exponentially hitting wot on street.

there's just too many variables on street. asphalt to concrete to debris, dust, oils, etc.

Not in my experience, there is nothing worse than a 1st/2nd gen Prius when it comes to electronic nannies and terminal understeer. If the roads are wet? Forget about it.

Agree, but the 3rd gens are way better. THey still have a problem with the TCS where it doesn't allow wheelspins, but the VCS is way ahead of the 370 ones. I can get the car completely sideways before the system kicks on where the Nissan one will shut you down before you even have a chance to go sideways

first thing i do when i get in the car is turn it off. Drives me nuts!

Going sideways is not how you get there first, why is this desirable?

I am saying the system is so intrusive that it won't get you anywhere near to the point of sideways (obviously you can defeat that if you go really fast). It won't even let you approach the limit of cornering. I don't know if it is the TCS/ABLS or stability control, but the system loves cutting power off the corner even when there are no wheelspin.

I guess that's why I don't feel it all that much???:driving:

dont know what you're talking about unless they adjusted things in the 2011 and up 370's but i've tooken hairpin turns approaching 80mph and had the VDC on the whole time and have never had it cut power.

Same here, have an '09 and haven't had an issue with it even when pulling a hard right hair pin turn at like 75, the only time is when my backend breaks loose sometimes the limited slip traction control will kick in, but that's different than VDC (Vehicle Distance Control).


'09 F.I. CBE/HFC-Stillen Gen3,Setrab+, SpeedBooster, Tune +ModBod

The VDC saved me two times from: 1st time, almost slide into an already-happened two-cars collision because iced surface on the ramp going 35km/h. 2nd time, prevent me from going into the ditch on a black-iced straight-highway during a snow storm.

I was driving the 350z.

If I was being "smart" like some drivers who doesn't want the VDC interrupt their fun or thinking the VDC is just a stupid thing..... I've crashed twice... at least.... on those surface.... I did have snow tire on the 350z, and they were Toyo.


To be honest, not trying to offense anyone here, but to those who say VDC is stupid, hope you will get into one of those situation with the VDC on and see how you are being saved by the system, then come back here again and tell us what do you think about the system...

I used to turn off the VDC too, having the same thoughts like some people here, but after the first incident, I have it on, and therefore it save me at the 2nd time.

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cheers

At spring mountain they told us "Turning the computer off won't make you faster, it will only make you crash faster."

Of course, this was with the ZR1 Corvette, which has one of the best systems out there, basically "Racelogic".

Here in Guam we have coral roads, and they can be slick coupled with the constant rain and moisture/humidity in the air. I know it's saved me at least a couple of times. This was due to me taking it to the limit on the corners.

I only turn mine off when intending to play....safely.

^^^ Truth :rofl2:

I leave VDC on while driving the streets. Sure, it goes off occasionally, and about 20% of the time it goes off for reasons I don't agree with. Other than that, it usually catches me from doing something stupid and forcing me to correct it myself (or worse). On the street, that's fine, if I'm evoking VDC that often, then I'm probably driving too damn fast/reckless for the streets.

That said, on the track, it pretty much blows. It's way too damn conservative and restricts the throttle for way too long and too aggressively.

I just drive slower when condition calls for it, not sure why I need to depend on the VDC when I can drive slower or be more alert. Perhaps it is my bigger tires, but I can get mine to come up making a simple 90 degree turn (I think it is the TCS) without going more than 50% throttle.

It definitely isn't the case with the 370 (GT-R maybe?). Maybe a professional can correct me, but I am not seeing it. I have driven nicer systems on cars like the 997 GT3 (TCS only), it definitely doesn't interfer like the 370z

Yeah, it's odd. It definitely seems like people are having differing levels of intrusion with VDC. I can understand if it's being that intrusive, that's ridiculous.

VDC is definitely intrusive on the Z. Like others have mentioned if you get just enough slip to where it cuts in to intervene it will kill power for what seems like forever. As everyone knows there are times when a little bit of wheelspin or a little bit of a slide isn't a bad thing, but VDC seems to think otherwise.

What would have been nice is a standard setting and then a sport setting like what most cars are using these days.

It depends on how you drive. On track the VDC is going to kill your times (unless you don't really drive that hard, then maybe it won't). On the street, it really shouldn't matter much but like Mike was saying there are times where it can get you in trouble if it cuts in.

I dunno, cossie said that his VDC kicks in doing a 10mph 90 degree turn. I've definitely NEVER seen that happen before.