Thanks for the great feedback. I do enjoy driving the Z a lot and plan to keep it for couple more year while I still can. :p
Adding some more features later on hope that will solve my quest for luxury. XD

:tiphat:Is there any way to add the touring package to the base car?
The touring is really all I want, since I am going to keep the Z for more years.

Thanks

I am KEEPING it !!!
No one can take her away from me. :rofl2:

Could FRD be Front engine rear wheel Drive?
Just a thought after playing GT5 :icon17:

I really do wish I could keep both of them. At least I can keep what I have right now :tup:

That you described is probably all I want on my Z :icon18:
I didn't know there are such things as seat warmers and lumbar support!!
I thought I needed to get new seats in order to get them :eek:

How did them turnout to be? I searched online and the seat warmer seems to be pretty well priced~ 50$? Could you give me a mini review on them?

Thanks a lot. :tiphat:

I was thinking of doing the same thing. Letting the NISMO go and picking up an IPL. So then I would have 2012 instead of a 2009, but my payments would reflect that. I should have my Z paid off sometime next year and it puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it. I am sure that the IPL would do the same and have a back seat for the kiddies, but I'm not gonna do it! Glad you are keeping the Z!

Wait for the next gen IPL. This one is a short run and the next one will be more performance oriented.

Smart *** replies aside, my point was I see a lot more G37's than I do Z's.

If you are in to "dedicated" sports cars, why did you get an automatic? I'm assuming because that's what you wanted. It all comes back to personal preferences that are subjective.

lol

to the op, i say keep the z

Dont do it!

The nav and stereo stuff you can easily do you rself. You can also have some sound deadener installed throughout the car and get a very quiet ride. In my mind no reason to pay a lot of money for a "luxery" car when its just a bunch of expensive oem crap the auto maker adds on to their base models

should have got the touring :stirthepot:

I was sitting in my friends civic after I got out of my Z and I was like, "damn this is roomy" :icon17:

I got lucky and the girlfriend fell in love with the G37 and picked up an 09 sedan Hers is even almost the same color as my Platinum Graphite too (Infinity just calls it Platinum and its a little lighter, but not much) That means I get to DD my 370Z and when we need a backseat or trunk, we take her car. Win, Win!!

The funny thing is since my Z is loaded (Touring - Sport - Nav), it actually has more features than her base G.

Went from a G37 Coupe to the 370Z. NO REGRETS!

theres not a dealer in my town and i'm not driving 70 miles for service....

imo the 370 looks better and i don't need a back seat..........

now if you won't to talk about a fully loaded maxima ???

IMO a sports can can only be a two seater... I mean how many Indy cars or Ferrari's have back seats?

There is something about the small intimate size of the Z that appeals to me...like being close to a sensual woman..smelling her perfume..feeling her softness and hearing her purr..then roar in a burst of excitement..

True the Z , unlike the G . no G spot.. but its lighter.. and has the same engine so the performance is better..and all things being even, a lighter car can turn and corner better than a heavier one.

Its an exciting drivers car...not for someone that has to strap kids in the back seat or dogs to the roof..

I don't think this is worth the hassle. It will cost you more to do this now than from the factory. You would need the touring package rims, brakes, nav unit, seats etc. However, there are many aftermarket alternatives if you want to add some toys (i.e. new head unit, speakers, rims, etc.).

The seat warmers I purchased we also about $50/seat and I actually put them in both the Z and a Toyota Sequoia. Be prepared to pull the seats out of the car to install them. You will need to feel comfortable working on your car's interior since you will need to connect power to them and install the switch in your center consul. The switches look a bit cheesy, but they work and I wasn't comfortable with knowing if a factory Z seat warmer switch would be compatible. My guess is they would be, but the OEM switches were pretty pricey last time I checked. The seat heaters work great, but are just a tad slower to warn up compared to OEM seat heaters I have in other cars. Other than that they work great.

The lumbar support I purchased on-line and if you PM me I can give you a link. I only did the driver seat and it cost me under $100. If you do the seat warmer, you might as well do the lumbar support at the same time since the seat will already be removed and cloth seat covers removed or partially removed. It's an electric powered air bladder and it works just like an OEM lumbar support. That really helped my back. It was well worth the investment for me.

I also installed sound deadening materials in the door and back end of the Z so I'm very happy with the car. I'm still considering leather seat covers, but I'm liking the feel of the cloth seats.

I hope that helps.

This is a more than perfect Mini Review !
Now I have to do everything you just said. XD :bowrofl:
rep!

See, this kind of thinking to me, I don't understand. A lot of guys say 4 seaters aren't real sports cars. So then, a GT driver driving a mustang or camaro SS can say, well then your so called 2 seater sports car isn't good enough because I just beat you around the track. Sports car IS NOT how many seats you have. Its HOW WELL a car can perform under a given set criteria. Once a car achieves or exceeds that skill seat criteria. Its nominated as a sports car.
This is why I refain from calling the Z a "True" sports car and I just choose to call it a Dedicated" sports car. My definition of a Dedicated Sports Car is a car with 2 seats and no room for practicality. Does that make it better than a car with 4 seats?? Well if the Z can't beat it then its not better. Plain and simple.
As far as cozy in the cockpit... well that's subjective. Iagree with you there but one mans cozy is another mans cramped.

CHANGE SUBJECT. Gripe & Rant.

I have a serious gripe with the Z though. Last night I'm driving on the 161 doing about 78 and I have the radio real low. I decided to lower it to 0 and here my exhaust. Guess what I heard??? Tire and road noise, a slight audibility of wind. NO EXHAUST sound. This fkin car doesn't even sound like a sports car at cruising speed. WTFF!!!!!! I already know this but I'm thinking in my head. You know how many 350z's pass me sounding Mad Brolic on the road on stock exhausts. And it kills me that the Z exhaust is basically... fkin wack!!! Its a terrible misrepresentation of a sports car exhaust. My old G37 had a REAL sports car sound. That sound adds to the driving experience. It really sucks the dedicated sports car can't hold a candle to the pseudo-luxury sports car. Sound is 35% of the sports car experience. And unless you smash on the gas for a complete 3mpg's the Z just doesn't sound good in terms of volume, stock. This is something nissan better fix in 2013. Make it sound like the old 350z again.

PS there are Ferari's and porsches with back seats.

Well, to me, maneuverability and feeling of lightness is a part of it all ..and how can a large car be as maneuverable as a small one, everything else being equal? There is also something I just cant express but the small intimate feeling of a two seater appeals to me..something about back seats that reminds me of a sedan..
PS I did not know Ferrrai made cars with back seats..Guess I will have to get one for the wife and kids..:)

:roflpuke2:

I had a car with a back seat once - I didn't like it.

That said, I'd get the G37x coupe if I needed a back seat today - unless someone makes a mid-engine four seater :)

You never heard of the Ferrari 330gt, 365GT, ferrari Mondial, 612 scagglieti just to name a few??? Next year should produce another GT. So yeah.. go pick one up for the family. Just learn ferrari heritage through reading before you go to the dealership talking stuff you don't know and make a fool of yourself?...:tup:

Aaaaaaaannnnnywayyyy...

Just because a car is inherintely small doesn't make it instantly more maneuverable than a larger sports car if that larger car was designed to perform the duty with intricate detail to the cars overall design.... Or having back seats for that matter. My opinion as as yours that you had to mention twice already about 2 seats feeling cozy. BUT THOUGH I AGREE... it is purely SUBJECTIVE and doesn't make any case on a sports car capability.

Here's the current 2012 Ferrari FF 4 seater. Have fun.

Ferrari FF - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If I had to take the manueverability challenge. I'm pretty sure a ferrari FF can handle the job.

Hey i am not a 1%'er so I dont know about these things ..but a Ferrari with a back seat! What is this world coming to? :tup:

There were 2+2 Ferrari's since the beginning. Reading these posts. I ask myself what's this world coming to??? :facepalm: it doesn't take being a 1%'er to know this. All it takes is being a true car enthusiast.

Well that certainly puts me in my place! Well it makes not sense to me to have rear seats without a rear door..that is just a big inconvenience,.,.so now we have a sports car with rear seats and four doors?? Guess I am just an old geezer out of touch with the world

By the way ever hear of a race horse with saddles in the front and rear?:icon18:

I'd say that our Z feels like 10% more performance all around vs our g37s. It corners more tightly with less body roll and acceleration feels a bit stronger due to being 3-400 lbs lighter. I haven't taken the z to its limits on cornering much, but it already can take corners a little faster than the G.

Luxury wise, i have the touring package and I prefer the Z's seats. The only things I miss from the G are the navigation (which is very well integrated into the car IMO), the backseats once in a while, and the slightly smaller steering wheel. The Z's wheel feels like its an inch or two larger in diameter. Leather quality is definitely better on the G37, but I prefer the suede inserts on the Z.

In my mind, the real advantage a G37 has is having 4 seats. Whether that convenience is worth the slight dulling in driving experience is more of a personal preference.

:iagree:
The IPL, will add 5% to the 90% performance of the Z. It makes corners just as good as our base Z's and the extra 18hp shows its face in 3rd n 4th. Going full bolt ons and a JIC coilovers are the best for the G. With the jic the G outhandles a sport pkg Z.

Yea but you are saying you have to add bolt ons to outperform a sport pkg Z. That is not a 1:1 for Z vs G. You are already paying more for the G and more for the IPL and still have to bolt on some goodies to outperform a sport Z? Well let's bolt on some aftermarket goodies to get that 18hp deficit back even on the Z...intake+exhaust. Or for cornering upgrade the suspension on the Z. Nothing against G's I like them. I just like the Z more. If I needed back seats then I would definately get a G.

WHere did I mention INTAKE and EXHAUST???
I'm saying it needs a coilover. Something many of us with Z's do already.
WHAT??? The IPL G runs 348hp. The deficit is on the Z. Its the Z that would need a power increase on the IPL unless you buy a NISMO. Have you even driven an IPL? You are making an argument based on driving a Z and never have being in an IPL. Go drive the car I'm talking about first before you give bias and twisted info. You don't even KNOW the ipl has more HP than the Z.

IPL looks like darthvador.

:iagree:

Totally agree with the above for the Z on stock exhaust. As mentioned in another post, there are 4 G37's in my condo building and it seriously bothered me that they all sounded more agreesive than my Z, they had that distinctive VQ purrrrr.....but the Z sounded limp

Thats why an upgraded exhaust was my first move when I didn't really plan on it.

Hey it actually does... lol:icon18:

You didn't mention intake+exhaust, I did. Calm down. You are saying you have to add stuff to the IPL to get it to outperform the Z in certain areas. I am not a stat junkie so I dont have the HP numbers off the top of my head. Yes, I know the IPL has more HP than the Z and the Nismo for that matter. All I am saying is keeping things the same where is the tradeoff? How much did you pay for the IPL??? $50k +/-? I would take the money and boost the Z to gain back and surpass the deficit. Yes for the price tag you get nicer luxury features, some new fascia, plus upgraded performance to 348hp and 276 lb-ft torque. But you are right I have not driven an IPL. So what am I talking about.

Look,once you buy a Z. You took yourself out of being able to compare your car to any other car with 4 seats or 4 doors. People BUYING a 4 seater do so for performace (2)+(2) practicality. The 50k ipl can be had for about 45k OTD. So its like you pay 3k more for a tour sport. But an IPL HAS FEATURES... you can only dream about in a Z because it is luxury as well. Things like 12way power true sport seats and intell cruise control, sunshade for the rear moonroof, DS mode and just of other things.
You are goiing from one type of car to another. You choose an IPL for NOT JUST sport. That's what makes your comparo's moot.
My reason for mentioning the coilover is because let's say he's buying the G because he has little ones and needs to take them in his car. In order for him not to sacrifice performance in handling I'm making the SUGGESTION to try JIC coilovers that really work well in a G? How do I know this??? I traded my 09 G37 for my previous 09 Z. Now I have an 11 Z. So I know what I'm talking about.
Why did I trade for a Z??? WEIGHT. My G performed equal if not better in handling with the coilover. But I still wanted a lighter car. The G was not my DD so I traded for a Z which also is not my DD.

Well you will be happy to know that your rants were not in vain...i now see your position and I even agree.. and bow in respect :) proving that an old dog really can learn new tricks!! :)

I have driven both the G def feels more sluggish than the Z. Z=true sports car. :tup:

i have no complaints, other than those damn blindspots lol if you truly LOVE your car which i do, the extras are not needed.