Thinking of selling...

ctzn · 06-02-2009, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FricFrac

Just curious why you didn't hold out for a Supra in the first place? I mean if it was your dream car and all...

They are rather rare to come by in a particular condition, I could never quite find one within my price range and in an acceptable condition. My last couple of cars have been Z's so the 370 was a natural choice for me.

RCGsupra · 06-02-2009, 01:39 AM

I just traded in my MKIV for the Z. I absolutely loved the supra and always will. It got to the point where it just wasn't making a good daily driver and I wanted something that was still fun, but more liveable/reliable.

My supra was a single turbo making about 420 rwhp. I pretty much had the car setup for the street/road course.

As a weekend only car, I think that you will enjoy the supra more. It's just one of those cars that is incredible to drive and is very rare.

If you are not mechanically inclined, it is very hard to find reputable people to work on the cars. That was one thing I struggled with and it became very frustrating. I can do basic stuff, but for advanced things I had to try and find someone that had some clue about the cars.

Good Luck with your decision!

ctzn · 06-02-2009, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCGsupra

I just traded in my MKIV for the Z. I absolutely loved the supra and always will. It got to the point where it just wasn't making a good daily driver and I wanted something that was still fun, but more liveable/reliable.

My supra was a single turbo making about 420 rwhp. I pretty much had the car setup for the street/road course.

As a weekend only car, I think that you will enjoy the supra more. It's just one of those cars that is incredible to drive and is very rare.

If you are not mechanically inclined, it is very hard to find reputable people to work on the cars. That was one thing I struggled with and it became very frustrating. I can do basic stuff, but for advanced things I had to try and find someone that had some clue about the cars.

Good Luck with your decision!

Thanks much for the insight!

I think I will need to spend some time in the Supra in order to make a proper decision. The more I think about it the more I am leaning toward sticking the Z, but I have a feeling once I get to spend some time the Supra it will be a much more difficult decision.

Sardis · 06-02-2009, 02:45 AM

I really do love this forum. Very even handed answers. I am a previous MKIV TT owner and regret to this day every selling the car.

Just some history lessons for those asking where the .99 skidpad rating etc are, the Supra came very close IIRC did reach 99 in some tests.

I am too lazy to pull up the comparison. It finished second only to the NSX on a track day even against all the other 90s JDM super cars.

Also some interesting facts pulled from the WIKI..

The Supra was also lighter than the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 and the Nissan 300ZX Turbo. Despite its curb weight, in 1994 the MKIV managed a remarkable skidpad rating of 0.95 lateral g's (200ft) or 0.98 lateral g's (300ft) [1] due in part to a four-sensor four-channel track tuned ABS system with yaw control whereby each caliper is sensored and the brakes are controlled individually according to the speed, angle, and pitch of the approaching corner. This unique Formula One inspired braking system allowed the Supra Turbo to record a 70 mph (110 km/h) -0 braking distance of 149 feet (45 m) [2], the best braking performance of any production car tested in 1997 by Car and Driver magazine. This record was finally broken in 2004 by 3 feet (0.91 m) by a Porsche Carrera GT.

I assume you would be purchasing a Targa. I loved popping the targa off and going cruising. One thing the Z will never match is the pure joy of that smooth 3 liter Inline 6 in the Supra. Whenever I ride in my friends 335i I lust for that engine, because it is every bit as smooth and compelling at higher revs than the 335is..

The Supra is a collectible. The whole old car debate IMO is fairly irrelevant, aside from things like Nav and more interior features the car is very modern. As long as you can maintain it in a healthy state it's not going to be outclassed by much. If you stick with BPU, you are looking at a mid 12 second car with 115-118 traps, which used to be nearly world beating, is still very fast.

It's a very nice car just to drive around in when you are not completely trashing it. If you miss the 370 you can always pick one up used, your supra will hold its value.

I love both cars, but I will always hold a special fondness for the Supra. I had an absolute blast in that car, live the dream! The 370 isn't going anywhere and the Supra will only become more difficult to obtain as it gets older.

SiXK · 06-02-2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCGsupra

I just traded in my MKIV for the Z. I absolutely loved the supra and always will. It got to the point where it just wasn't making a good daily driver and I wanted something that was still fun, but more liveable/reliable.

My supra was a single turbo making about 420 rwhp. I pretty much had the car setup for the street/road course.

As a weekend only car, I think that you will enjoy the supra more. It's just one of those cars that is incredible to drive and is very rare.

If you are not mechanically inclined, it is very hard to find reputable people to work on the cars. That was one thing I struggled with and it became very frustrating. I can do basic stuff, but for advanced things I had to try and find someone that had some clue about the cars.

Good Luck with your decision!

That would be my only input in the situation. I would get the Supra if thats what I really wanted as long as I could do any work on it myself. Cost can be high and finding reputable mechanics can be a nightmare. I love my 91 Z32TT, and I do all the work on it myself.

Unicorn_blood · 06-02-2009, 10:46 AM

I remember using the Supra in the first ever Need for Speed game. I also got to test drive it once, it's ridiculous. Personally, it's a tough choice to let go of the "latest and greatest" for a classic. You could always TT the Z but it still ain't no Supra.

Imagine if you did get the Supra, are you going to preserve its miles for resale value? Or you could be taking out the Z instead for a nice Sunday cruise/spirited driving.

K20A2_S · 06-02-2009, 10:20 PM

everybody has seen 600+ hp supras.............but not 370's......

I tend to favor cars that aren't the norm in being power players, tend to get props more, feeling of accomplishment, and so forth.....

Boost the 370 is my opinion for you.

CantZme · 06-03-2009, 01:05 AM

Supra Sick,,, New Z, warranty, low mile, Sicker

Sardis · 06-03-2009, 02:40 AM

Good luck. Whatever decision you make, you end up with an awesome ride.

BTW that wing is functional and adds a measurable amount of downforce at speed.

Problem with the Z and warranty, if you want the speed of the Supra your warranty is pretty much nill. The Supra was way over engineered and is very reliable, of course with age and miles will always become issues, but this is not a FD RX7..

I'm in the same boat with you and the NSX. Sometime you just need to live that childhood dream

One thing I will say is I missed the refinement of the Supra when I had the 350. IMO the 370 is on par, aside from the coarseness of the engine. Given the cost of the Supra when it was new (mine had a sticker of over 50k) I still worship Nissan for putting together such an awesome car at a great price.

On the My Z site, in the other vehicles section someone just picked up a 98 in the low to mid 30s with under 30k miles IIRC. Killer deal.

Keep us updated, I am excited! I would def spend some time with that targa off, it lets just the right amount of air in, and really adds to the driving experience!

Mental Block · 06-03-2009, 01:30 PM

Two of my friends used to have mint Supras which I was always able to get rides in. One was BPU and the other was 600+ HP. Damn those things were awesome. If it was up to me however, I'd probably still opt to go with the 370Z just because quality-wise it's pretty much on par with the Supra plus you get a new warranty. And although I think Supras look amazing, I just can't resist the beautiful curves of the 370Z.

TLDR version: Z is much less hassle simply because of the new car factors.

R1jamn · 06-08-2009, 01:08 AM

Life truly is short.
Sell the Z and live your dream with the Supra.
Life should not be full of regrets.

Good Luck.

Izzoh · 06-03-2009, 04:19 PM

Supra are the Tits but I'd say think about it throughly before buying just because money is not a problem right now is not to say it couldn't be down the road. A MKIV supra has always been a dream of mine as well so if it's as in great of shape as you think it is I'd say pull the trigger.

ctzn · 06-07-2009, 01:20 PM

After spending some time with the Supra, I have decided to test the waters in selling the Z. The car is a beautiful example, has been compression tested, has only had 2 prior owners and all stock bits are available.

I have a feeling I would regret it in the future if I did nothing, as I will be able to find another Z if I ever feel the desire in the future.

If the car doesn't sell in a few weeks I may just keep it, so we'll see what happens. Wish me luck in the sale!

ctzn · 06-07-2009, 03:14 PM

FS: (NorCal) 09 Pearl White 370Z 6spd

Sardis · 06-07-2009, 08:53 PM

I am really excited for you. I remember vividly the first days of my Supra, it was such an amazing ride. The performance you got in those days was very phenomenal, it's slightly more average now, but nothing the simple BPU upgrades won't fix

I had a feeling some seat time would sway you. Keep us posted!

06-03-2009, 01:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
CantZme Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 82 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 17	Supra Sick,,, New Z, warranty, low mile, Sicker __________________ A man who needs nothing is INVINCIBLE

06-03-2009, 01:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mental Block Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 94 Drives: '03 Redline 350Z Rep Power: 17	Two of my friends used to have mint Supras which I was always able to get rides in. One was BPU and the other was 600+ HP. Damn those things were awesome. If it was up to me however, I'd probably still opt to go with the 370Z just because quality-wise it's pretty much on par with the Supra plus you get a new warranty. And although I think Supras look amazing, I just can't resist the beautiful curves of the 370Z. TLDR version: Z is much less hassle simply because of the new car factors. __________________ Mental Block - '03 Redline 350Z

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06-02-2009, 01:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
RCGsupra Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 77 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 17	I just traded in my MKIV for the Z. I absolutely loved the supra and always will. It got to the point where it just wasn't making a good daily driver and I wanted something that was still fun, but more liveable/reliable. My supra was a single turbo making about 420 rwhp. I pretty much had the car setup for the street/road course. As a weekend only car, I think that you will enjoy the supra more. It's just one of those cars that is incredible to drive and is very rare. If you are not mechanically inclined, it is very hard to find reputable people to work on the cars. That was one thing I struggled with and it became very frustrating. I can do basic stuff, but for advanced things I had to try and find someone that had some clue about the cars. Good Luck with your decision!

06-02-2009, 02:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sardis Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 72 Drives: EX Z Owner Rep Power: 17	I really do love this forum. Very even handed answers. I am a previous MKIV TT owner and regret to this day every selling the car. Just some history lessons for those asking where the .99 skidpad rating etc are, the Supra came very close IIRC did reach 99 in some tests. I am too lazy to pull up the comparison. It finished second only to the NSX on a track day even against all the other 90s JDM super cars. Also some interesting facts pulled from the WIKI.. The Supra was also lighter than the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 and the Nissan 300ZX Turbo. Despite its curb weight, in 1994 the MKIV managed a remarkable skidpad rating of 0.95 lateral g's (200ft) or 0.98 lateral g's (300ft) [1] due in part to a four-sensor four-channel track tuned ABS system with yaw control whereby each caliper is sensored and the brakes are controlled individually according to the speed, angle, and pitch of the approaching corner. This unique Formula One inspired braking system allowed the Supra Turbo to record a 70 mph (110 km/h) -0 braking distance of 149 feet (45 m) [2], the best braking performance of any production car tested in 1997 by Car and Driver magazine. This record was finally broken in 2004 by 3 feet (0.91 m) by a Porsche Carrera GT. I assume you would be purchasing a Targa. I loved popping the targa off and going cruising. One thing the Z will never match is the pure joy of that smooth 3 liter Inline 6 in the Supra. Whenever I ride in my friends 335i I lust for that engine, because it is every bit as smooth and compelling at higher revs than the 335is.. The Supra is a collectible. The whole old car debate IMO is fairly irrelevant, aside from things like Nav and more interior features the car is very modern. As long as you can maintain it in a healthy state it's not going to be outclassed by much. If you stick with BPU, you are looking at a mid 12 second car with 115-118 traps, which used to be nearly world beating, is still very fast. It's a very nice car just to drive around in when you are not completely trashing it. If you miss the 370 you can always pick one up used, your supra will hold its value. I love both cars, but I will always hold a special fondness for the Supra. I had an absolute blast in that car, live the dream! The 370 isn't going anywhere and the Supra will only become more difficult to obtain as it gets older.

06-02-2009, 10:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
Unicorn_blood Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Milky Way Posts: 40 Drives: Enzo Rep Power: 17	I remember using the Supra in the first ever Need for Speed game. I also got to test drive it once, it's ridiculous. Personally, it's a tough choice to let go of the "latest and greatest" for a classic. You could always TT the Z but it still ain't no Supra. Imagine if you did get the Supra, are you going to preserve its miles for resale value? Or you could be taking out the Z instead for a nice Sunday cruise/spirited driving.

06-02-2009, 10:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
K20A2_S Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 67 Drives: 04 RSX Rep Power: 273	everybody has seen 600+ hp supras.............but not 370's...... I tend to favor cars that aren't the norm in being power players, tend to get props more, feeling of accomplishment, and so forth..... Boost the 370 is my opinion for you.

06-03-2009, 02:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
Sardis Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 72 Drives: EX Z Owner Rep Power: 17	Good luck. Whatever decision you make, you end up with an awesome ride. BTW that wing is functional and adds a measurable amount of downforce at speed. Problem with the Z and warranty, if you want the speed of the Supra your warranty is pretty much nill. The Supra was way over engineered and is very reliable, of course with age and miles will always become issues, but this is not a FD RX7.. I'm in the same boat with you and the NSX. Sometime you just need to live that childhood dream One thing I will say is I missed the refinement of the Supra when I had the 350. IMO the 370 is on par, aside from the coarseness of the engine. Given the cost of the Supra when it was new (mine had a sticker of over 50k) I still worship Nissan for putting together such an awesome car at a great price. On the My Z site, in the other vehicles section someone just picked up a 98 in the low to mid 30s with under 30k miles IIRC. Killer deal. Keep us updated, I am excited! I would def spend some time with that targa off, it lets just the right amount of air in, and really adds to the driving experience!

06-08-2009, 01:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
R1jamn Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southern, CA Posts: 18 Drives: 2010 Honda Civic Rep Power: 266	Life truly is short. Sell the Z and live your dream with the Supra. Life should not be full of regrets. Good Luck.

06-03-2009, 04:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
Izzoh Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 69 Drives: 98 - 240sx Rep Power: 17	Supra are the Tits but I'd say think about it throughly before buying just because money is not a problem right now is not to say it couldn't be down the road. A MKIV supra has always been a dream of mine as well so if it's as in great of shape as you think it is I'd say pull the trigger.

06-07-2009, 01:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
ctzn inquisitive Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Back in Midwest, StL Posts: 384 Drives: G35 Rep Power: 17	After spending some time with the Supra, I have decided to test the waters in selling the Z. The car is a beautiful example, has been compression tested, has only had 2 prior owners and all stock bits are available. I have a feeling I would regret it in the future if I did nothing, as I will be able to find another Z if I ever feel the desire in the future. If the car doesn't sell in a few weeks I may just keep it, so we'll see what happens. Wish me luck in the sale!

06-07-2009, 03:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
ctzn inquisitive Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Back in Midwest, StL Posts: 384 Drives: G35 Rep Power: 17	FS: (NorCal) 09 Pearl White 370Z 6spd

06-07-2009, 08:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
Sardis Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 72 Drives: EX Z Owner Rep Power: 17	I am really excited for you. I remember vividly the first days of my Supra, it was such an amazing ride. The performance you got in those days was very phenomenal, it's slightly more average now, but nothing the simple BPU upgrades won't fix I had a feeling some seat time would sway you. Keep us posted!