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m4a1mustang 02-24-2012 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sceptre155 (Post 1562602)
So I'm in the same boat as lots of others it seems. My first post here so please forgive me.

Currently I have a Ford Raptor I'm thinking about trading in. In the garage I have my old trusty Twin Turbo AWL/AWS Stealth.

I like HP, and I like cornering, but my days of 100+ MPH are pretty low. But I do like the 0-60 take offs. I also really like cornering.

Mustang GT 500 vs 370z Nismo

As some others have said the 370z is a bit more rare. These days you can't drive 2 miles without seeing a new body style Mustang. Which also has the question for me. Resale value down the road.... It would seem to me the 370z would hold value much better then the Mustang? I typically keep a car 1-2 years. and drive maybe 8-10k miles a year.

At this point I haven't driven either. I did just buy the GF a Maxima and we love it. It was really light years ahead of any car that ford had we tested. Camaro is out for me. Love the look, but just not interested. Challenger is nice, big *** muscle car... crappy cornering. Altho Lime green could be tempting.

Sorry if i got a bit off the original post. Not trying to hyjack the thread.
The 2011 Mustang GT actually has KBB's best resale value in the "High Performance Car" category.

But yeah, resale on the Z is not bad at all.

Cmike2780 02-24-2012 08:30 AM
For a daily driver, only car, living in your area, the Z just isn't practical. Its gonna give you more of a headache than joy if it constantly snows up their. I don't think even a Mustang would be practical. Get something with AWD. The G37x Coupe, TT or 3 series perhaps. I can't think of other 2-door awd cars in this segment.

m4a1mustang 02-24-2012 08:32 AM
AWD isn't really necessary if you are willing to keep a set of snow tires for the winter. Both the Z and the Mustang do really well in snow with proper tires.

sceptre155 02-24-2012 08:37 AM
Thanks for the input. I should mention that I'll be picking up a beater to drive in the winter. Probably another 4x4 truck. I have heard good things about the new GT500. They are touting its the best Mustang ever built.

Cmike2780 02-24-2012 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1562625)
AWD isn't really necessary if you are willing to keep a set of snow tires for the winter. Both the Z and the Mustang do really well in snow with proper tires.
I don't know. Snow tires will get you home on a plowed road in a Z or stang, but AWD is godsend on un-plowed roads. I use to have a 2wd Jeep with snow tires and got stuck in 6" of snow in an unplowed parking lot. I'm just saying AWD and snow tires if you wish, would be far better. Since he has or will have a 4wd beater, it doesn't really matter now.

m4a1mustang 02-24-2012 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1562708)
I don't know. Snow tires will get you home on a plowed road in a Z or stang, but AWD is godsend on un-plowed roads. I use to have a 2wd Jeep with snow tires and got stuck in 6" of snow in an unplowed parking lot. I'm just saying AWD and snow tires if you wish, would be far better. Since he has or will have a 4wd beater, it doesn't really matter now.
I agree AWD with snows would be better, but even in 5-6" of unplowed stuff I made it just fine in my 5.0 with Dunlop Wintersports.

But yeah, if I knew I was going to be driving in snow alot, I'd want an AWD option with good clearance... like a Ford Raptor. :icon17:

Nick911sc 02-24-2012 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1562713)
I agree AWD with snows would be better, but even in 5-6" of unplowed stuff I made it just fine in my 5.0 with Dunlop Wintersports.

But yeah, if I knew I was going to be driving in snow alot, I'd want an AWD option with good clearance... like a Ford Raptor. :icon17:

I'm so tempted to get a Ford Raptor, that truck is beastly!

m4a1mustang 02-24-2012 09:16 AM
I want one too, but I also want a Viper. And I need a house first. :icon17:

sfearl1 02-24-2012 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sceptre155 (Post 1562602)
So I'm in the same boat as lots of others it seems. My first post here so please forgive me.

Currently I have a Ford Raptor I'm thinking about trading in. In the garage I have my old trusty Twin Turbo AWL/AWS Stealth.

I like HP, and I like cornering, but my days of 100+ MPH are pretty low. But I do like the 0-60 take offs. I also really like cornering.

Mustang GT 500 vs 370z Nismo

As some others have said the 370z is a bit more rare. These days you can't drive 2 miles without seeing a new body style Mustang. Which also has the question for me. Resale value down the road.... It would seem to me the 370z would hold value much better then the Mustang? I typically keep a car 1-2 years. and drive maybe 8-10k miles a year.

At this point I haven't driven either. I did just buy the GF a Maxima and we love it. It was really light years ahead of any car that ford had we tested. Camaro is out for me. Love the look, but just not interested. Challenger is nice, big *** muscle car... crappy cornering. Altho Lime green could be tempting.

Sorry if i got a bit off the original post. Not trying to hyjack the thread.
honestly man, it sounds like an Evo would be worth a look. not much of a top-end, but handling and launching are it's specialty. that car is QUICK and feels like it defies physics.

doesn't look as sexy as a Z though. :rolleyes:

sceptre155 02-24-2012 10:10 AM
Well... I've had two raptors now. Bought one of the first ones in the NE. Had the 5.4 Supercrew cab. Hated the shift pattern and the Motor didn't have enough power for the truck.

Traded it for a new 6.2 crewcab. They fixed a ton of things I hated about the 2010 version. And the new 6.2 has plenty of HP. It's a great off road truck. The suspension is awesome.. But it is a 50k + truck... Are you really going to beat the crap out of it? Getting it dirty is one thing.. using it to actually work with. Probably not. It's a toy, a fun toy :)

Taking it on road trips is awesome, I've taken it to FL several times. 1200 miles each way. 15 mpg :rofl2: But you're not all cramped etc..

sceptre155 02-24-2012 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1562741)
honestly man, it sounds like an Evo would be worth a look. not much of a top-end, but handling and launching are it's specialty. that car is QUICK and feels like it defies physics.

doesn't look as sexy as a Z though. :rolleyes:

Yeah, not as sexy as the Z.

kenchan 02-24-2012 10:16 AM
to me evo's are like any other regular car that's modded. im sure it's a blast to drive but at the end of the day it's a family sedan.

Nick911sc 02-24-2012 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sceptre155 (Post 1562905)
Well... I've had two raptors now. Bought one of the first ones in the NE. Had the 5.4 Supercrew cab. Hated the shift pattern and the Motor didn't have enough power for the truck.

Traded it for a new 6.2 crewcab. They fixed a ton of things I hated about the 2010 version. And the new 6.2 has plenty of HP. It's a great off road truck. The suspension is awesome.. But it is a 50k + truck... Are you really going to beat the crap out of it? Getting it dirty is one thing.. using it to actually work with. Probably not. It's a toy, a fun toy :)

Taking it on road trips is awesome, I've taken it to FL several times. 1200 miles each way. 15 mpg :rofl2: But you're not all cramped etc..

Curious where you're located in NY. My biggest concern with the Raptor is its width. Doesn't look like it would be too friendly fitting in hunting trails or anything similar lol.

sceptre155 02-24-2012 10:51 AM
It's wide.. I don't fit in many car washes lol. It's literally 7 inches wider then a F150.

I'm in upstate, south of Syracuse. I'm actually headed to CT in a hour.

nmjaxx9 02-24-2012 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sceptre155 (Post 1563017)
It's wide.. I don't fit in many car washes lol. It's literally 7 inches wider then a F150.

I'm in upstate, south of Syracuse. I'm actually headed to CT in a hour.
We got a good inch of snow in my part of CT, be safe!

threeseventy 02-24-2012 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1561956)
Hey guys I am in love with this car. I've been dreaming about it lately lol. I am most likely going to buy a 2012 soon. The mustang gt 5.0 is tempting though with its 400 hp engine. What do you guys think?
I'm pushing 380 BHP with less than 3K worth of mods from forum members, STILL way less investment than the Mustang, and being lighter than the Stang shows up on all parts of the street and track. You just need to make your decision based on which forum you like better, and you alone must make that call.

m4a1mustang 02-24-2012 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by threeseventy (Post 1563026)
I'm pushing 380 BHP with less than 3K worth of mods from forum members, STILL way less investment than the Mustang, and being lighter than the Stang shows up on all parts of the street and track. You just need to make your decision based on which forum you like better, and you alone must make that call.
Explain?

Red__Zed 02-24-2012 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by threeseventy (Post 1563026)
I'm pushing 380 BHP with less than 3K worth of mods from forum members, STILL way less investment than the Mustang, and being lighter than the Stang shows up on all parts of the street and track. You just need to make your decision based on which forum you like better, and you alone must make that call.
How do you figure that is less investment than a mustang?

m4a1mustang 02-24-2012 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1563035)
How do you figure that is less investment than a mustang?
I think he's talking MSRP vs. the GT500 now that I think about it.

mhcoss 02-24-2012 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1563039)
I think he's talking MSRP vs. the GT500 now that I think about it.
I think mustang 5.0 is competitive with the Z for pricing no?

Either way, I am going to ge tthe Z I have decided. Is it practical for where I live? absolutly not. Am I doing something mildly stupid? Definitly. DO I care if others judge me or what they think about this?

**** NO!!! :ughdance:

That said I only have to make it through 1 maybe 1.5 winters before I can buy a decent 4wd beater for winter driving.

Gauge 02-24-2012 05:46 PM
Isn't the 0-60 faster on the Z though? Even with a less powerful engine...

m4a1mustang 02-24-2012 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 1563894)
Isn't the 0-60 faster on the Z though? Even with a less powerful engine...
Huh?

mhcoss 02-24-2012 10:04 PM
Well guys.. I had the dealership order me a 370z today. 2012 manual with the sports package!! I pick it up march 19th. I can't tell you just how stoked I am!!

Kingbaby 02-24-2012 10:08 PM
congrats...

hopefully it doesn't let you down...it's not a mustang/subaru/evo/camaro...

Red__Zed 02-24-2012 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1563905)
Huh?
:ugh2:

shadoquad 02-24-2012 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 1563894)
Isn't the 0-60 faster on the Z though? Even with a less powerful engine...
:ugh2:

alcheng 02-24-2012 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1564318)
Well guys.. I had the dealership order me a 370z today. 2012 manual with the sports package!! I pick it up march 19th. I can't tell you just how stoked I am!!

Congrats!!!!!

What color did you choose?

mhcoss 02-24-2012 10:32 PM
Well I had two choices in the color i like. White or blue, i prefer the blue so thats what I got!

"hopefully it doesn't let you down...it's not a mustang/subaru/evo/camaro... "

And thats exactly why I choice it! How would it let me down
?!

ImportConvert 02-24-2012 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1564318)
Well guys.. I had the dealership order me a 370z today. 2012 manual with the sports package!! I pick it up march 19th. I can't tell you just how stoked I am!!
Order to America in 2 weeks?!? I'm guessing the modified an existing order on the line...

Compdoc777 02-24-2012 10:49 PM
I don't know about 0-60 but i have easily out handled a vette and smoked an M3 with mine. Just have to learn how to drive it fast it's like a Honda if you are below 4k. Wind it up and it goes like stink and those new Yokohama neovas glue it to the pavement. I have yet to find the limit on those tires. I have not been this impressed with a car this much in a while. The brakes are the bomb on the sport as well.

mhcoss 02-24-2012 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1564363)
Order to America in 2 weeks?!? I'm guessing the modified an existing order on the line...
They ordered a car already built from another dealership. But yea i'm driving down into america to make this purchase

Red__Zed 02-24-2012 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 1564394)
I don't know about 0-60 but i have easily out handled a vette and smoked an M3 with mine. Just have to learn how to drive it fast it's like a Honda if you are below 4k. Wind it up and it goes like stink and those new Yokohama neovas glue it to the pavement. I have yet to find the limit on those tires. I have not been this impressed with a car this much in a while. The brakes are the bomb on the sport as well.
:eek:

m4a1mustang 02-24-2012 11:58 PM
:icon17:

Gauge 02-25-2012 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1564334)
:ugh2:
Heh, well I don't know. I always figured the mustang weighed more. Granted I never actually looked. Sorry I didn't know?

Ahh Nismo is around 4.4 and Mustang Boss is around 4. So .4 second difference in 0-60, I was wrong. At least I added a question mark because I didn't know :P But I don't think .4 seconds is enough to make fun of me ><

EDIT:
In fact looking at standard 2010 models of the 370Z(base) and the Mustang (base) the 0-60 IS faster on the Z, see I knew I read about it somewhere. Likely you will come back and find some flaw in my reading I overlooked and make fun of me >< please be gentle if I am indeed mistaken.

m4a1mustang 02-25-2012 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 1564481)
Heh, well I don't know. I always figured the mustang weighed more. Granted I never actually looked. Sorry I didn't know?

Ahh Nismo is around 4.4 and Mustang Boss is around 4. So .4 second difference in 0-60, I was wrong. At least I added a question mark because I didn't know :P But I don't think .4 seconds is enough to make fun of me ><
:p

LakeShow 02-25-2012 12:19 AM
:worship::leghump:

ImportConvert 02-25-2012 12:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 1564481)
Heh, well I don't know. I always figured the mustang weighed more. Granted I never actually looked. Sorry I didn't know?

Ahh Nismo is around 4.4 and Mustang Boss is around 4. So .4 second difference in 0-60, I was wrong. At least I added a question mark because I didn't know :P But I don't think .4 seconds is enough to make fun of me ><

EDIT:
In fact looking at standard 2010 models of the 370Z(base) and the Mustang (base) the 0-60 IS faster on the Z, see I knew I read about it somewhere. Likely you will come back and find some flaw in my reading I overlooked and make fun of me >< please be gentle if I am indeed mistaken.
0-120 and 30-150 times are more indicative of performance feel. 0-100 is far better than 0-60, as well. However, 5-60 is probably the best comparison tool regarding how you will feel regarding acceleration. Most people done want to replace their clutch every 5k miles, so a hard slip from 4k rpm is not a very useful comparison in the real world on the street.

m4a1mustang 02-25-2012 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 1564481)

EDIT:
In fact looking at standard 2010 models of the 370Z(base) and the Mustang (base) the 0-60 IS faster on the Z, see I knew I read about it somewhere. Likely you will come back and find some flaw in my reading I overlooked and make fun of me >< please be gentle if I am indeed mistaken.
Ah yeah, the 2010s Z is definitely quicker than the 2010 Mustang. That was the last year of the 4.6L V8. The 5.0s (2011+) are no contest, though, assuming equally skilled drivers.

shadoquad 02-25-2012 07:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 1564481)
Heh, well I don't know. I always figured the mustang weighed more. Granted I never actually looked. Sorry I didn't know?

Ahh Nismo is around 4.4 and Mustang Boss is around 4. So .4 second difference in 0-60, I was wrong. At least I added a question mark because I didn't know :P But I don't think .4 seconds is enough to make fun of me ><

EDIT:
In fact looking at standard 2010 models of the 370Z(base) and the Mustang (base) the 0-60 IS faster on the Z, see I knew I read about it somewhere. Likely you will come back and find some flaw in my reading I overlooked and make fun of me >< please be gentle if I am indeed mistaken.
lol, I'm not making fun of you. The Mustang and Z have been compared a lot on here, and everything 2011 and newer, the Mustang GT is faster.

And in 0-60 terms, a lot of rag racers will tell you .4 seconds is huge. But more accurately, I agree with m4a1. The stang would be faster 0-60 under equal conditions and with equal drivers.

But paper statistics matter very little. Both are great cars. Enjoy the Z. :tup:

m4a1mustang 02-25-2012 08:22 AM
:Iagree:


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