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Old 02-16-2012, 12:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it harder or easier to heel-toe in the 370Z because of the gas-pedal design?

I too wear certain shoes for driving. Piloti for me.
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Is it harder or easier to heel-toe in the 370Z because of the gas-pedal design?

I too wear certain shoes for driving. Piloti for me.

The 350z gas pedal is not floor-mount, BMW is floor-mount and so does the 370z.

I use the forefoot to do heel-toe(left part on brake and right part on gas) on all those three cars, I found the condition is the distance between the gas&brake pedal, and the level or the two.

Again, it's a matter of taking time to get used to it.
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The 350z gas pedal is not floor-mount, BMW is floor-mount and so does the 370z.

I use the forefoot to do heel-toe(left part on brake and right part on gas) on all those three cars, I found the condition is the distance between the gas&brake pedal, and the level or the two.

Again, it's a matter of taking time to get used to it.
Only experience here is in a 'vette. I did not try to heel-toe the 370Z I test-drove. Wonder how they compare.

here is similar to how I heel-toe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sduMmQL1OVs

I lift my heel/pivot more than this guy, though. That is how I "begin" the maneuver, by fully taking my heel off the mat. That is the technique we were taught at Spring Mountain, so I stuck with it.

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Only experience here is in a 'vette. I did not try to heel-toe the 370Z I test-drove. Wonder how they compare.
Looks like the gas-pedal on the vette is top-mount.

What I've heard, if you do use your toe on brake and heel on gas, then the floor mount gas pedal is better suitable.

I tried both myself when I first learn the concept and I chose using my forefoot to heel-toe eventually, that was when I was driving the BMW which is a floor mount gas pedal, I found it's easier than using my heel.

BTW, do you use your heel on the gas pedal when heel-toe??

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Looks like the gas-pedal on the vette is top-mount. BTW, do you use your heel on the gas pedal when heel-toe??
Sorry, I quick-edited on you.

1/2 my shoe stays on the brake, the heel comes up off the floorboard, I angle the foot at about 40-45*, and roll my ankle, blipping the accelerator with the "pad" on my Piloti driving shoe. This is how I was taught at Spring Mountain, and the shoes look like they were designed with it in mind.

We were taught we get a maximum of 3 blips before needing to re-position as the foot tends to slide off the brake. Side-pressure against the brake can help alleviate this.

I am sure there are many different ways to accomplish the same thing, but this is how I was taught.
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Sorry, I quick-edited on you.

1/2 my shoe stays on the brake, the heel comes up off the floorboard, I angle the foot at about 40-45*, and roll my ankle, blipping the accelerator with the "pad" on my Piloti driving shoe. This is how I was taught at Spring Mountain, and the shoes look like they were designed with it in mind.

We were taught we get a maximum of 3 blips before needing to re-position as the foot tends to slide off the brake. Side-pressure against the brake can help alleviate this.

I am sure there are many different ways to accomplish the same thing, but this is how I was taught.

Text book style: Toe on Brake and Heel on Gas

I believe both ways can handle both types of pedal.

I don't know all, but 99% of the race car driver are using the method that you learn.

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Text book style
I had the benefit of being CLUELESS about driving on a track until I went to Spring Mountain. No crappy habits to un-learn.
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Is it harder or easier to heel-toe in the 370Z because of the gas-pedal design?

I too wear certain shoes for driving. Piloti for me.
i do the side of foot blip on these 'organ' pedals as i call it. im use to this type since i had a MINI in the past. but in my Z i dont really need to since it can blip for me.

but even in my G with traditional pedals i use the side of foot to blip since im not going that fast on street in traffic anyways and just needs 4k or so of blip under normal braking. it's clumsy to swing your heel around under light braking.
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OP: You said This car being the first with a floor mounted gas peddle though.

Have you had hand controls prior to this? My Brother in law is in a wheel chair and drove his AT 300ZX for years this way.

If this is the case, you just might need practice, while gaining sensitivity.
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