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Old 02-16-2012, 10:41 AM   #31 (permalink)
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mt tam- i think he's talking about the pivot point...
Pivot point on the floor, thus the pedal is floor mounted.

I found it harder to "heel" the gas pedal when the pedal is floor mounted cos the heel has to press near the pivot point which is stiffer.

That's why I use the right part of my forefoot to blip the gas.

Again, both way do the same as long as the downshift is done smoothly.

But regarding the concern from OP, I believe the thickness and material of the shoes play a big role of how we can 'feel' the pedal.
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Pivot point on the floor, thus the pedal is floor mounted.

I found it harder to "heel" the gas pedal when the pedal is floor mounted cos the heel has to press near the pivot point which is stiffer.

That's why I use the right part of my forefoot to blip the gas.

Again, both way do the same as long as the downshift is done smoothly.

But regarding the concern from OP, I believe the thickness and material of the shoes play a big role of how we can 'feel' the pedal.
yah, i know exactly wat you mean because ive already experienced this since 9yrs ago when i bought my 2003 cooper-s. it had the floor pivot type 'organ' pedal.

shoe thickness changes does make it difficult to hit the sweet spot on the clutch at times, but he's driving AUTOMATIC.
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as i was reading through this, i thought you were driving stick. i have this problem at times. when i leave my house to pick up a pack of smokes, i would rock my sandals. with the sandals on, its a lot harder for me to balance the gas and clutch and would sometimes jerk around when shifting. Then again, this is with a manual transmission. I dont see why you would have issues with a 7AT.
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Shoes will make a huge difference. In my kart, I usually wear my Piloti kart shoes. One day I was just going out for a couple laps to test something out so kept my Vans on. It was pretty much impossible to drive. Went from a thin, stiff sole to a thick, cushy one and literally coudn't keep it on the track becasue my acceleration points and braking points were all thrown off.

With a pedal as stiff (which makes it sensitive) as on a Z, you get the same issues.
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as i was reading through this, i thought you were driving stick. i have this problem at times. when i leave my house to pick up a pack of smokes, i would rock my sandals. with the sandals on, its a lot harder for me to balance the gas and clutch and would sometimes jerk around when shifting. Then again, this is with a manual transmission. I dont see why you would have issues with a 7AT.
I am having the problem because it is a floor mounted pedal. And most cars come with a top mounted pedal. I have only owned and drove cars that have been top mounted pedals. And that includes manual and Automatic. As Gaurd Dad posted earlier and it actually helped a lot was that they operate differently and it was the placement of my heel as well as the ball of my foot. Thanks for your interest though
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Shoes will make a huge difference. In my kart, I usually wear my Piloti kart shoes. One day I was just going out for a couple laps to test something out so kept my Vans on. It was pretty much impossible to drive. Went from a thin, stiff sole to a thick, cushy one and literally coudn't keep it on the track becasue my acceleration points and braking points were all thrown off.

With a pedal as stiff (which makes it sensitive) as on a Z, you get the same issues.
So then a thin stiff soled shoe would give me a better feel of the pedal and better operation of the pedal?
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So then a thin stiff soled shoe would give me a better feel of the pedal and better operation of the pedal?
it's not just the stiffness, you will want to look at thinness and rounded heel.

the rounded heel brings big improvement if you dont have such shoes yet.


i personally run piloti's on my Z, sketchers type casual shoes and dress-slippers that have rounded heels in my G during the week.

i can still manage to drive in snow shoes/boots though while it is a tad clumsy.
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I had no problem with the 370's gas pedal when I first drove it, it was the clutch sensation (or lack of) that surprised me.
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I am having the problem because it is a floor mounted pedal. And most cars come with a top mounted pedal. I have only owned and drove cars that have been top mounted pedals. And that includes manual and Automatic. As Gaurd Dad posted earlier and it actually helped a lot was that they operate differently and it was the placement of my heel as well as the ball of my foot. Thanks for your interest though

I went from a floor mounted to a top mounted then back to a floor mounted.

I don't find myself have problem using them because of the difference of the pivot point, but yes, it does take a bit of time to adjust my heel-toe.

In your case with AT, it will be more simple to adjust.

What makes the difference on your 'feel' on the gas pddal are mostly: The type of your shoes And the stiffness of the pedal.


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So then a thin stiff soled shoe would give me a better feel of the pedal and better operation of the pedal?

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I had no problem with the 370's gas pedal when I first drove it, it was the clutch sensation (or lack of) that surprised me.
Very agree. Removed helper spring and dramatically improved.
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I had no problem with the 370's gas pedal when I first drove it, it was the clutch sensation (or lack of) that surprised me.
At the dealership:

Stall, stall, Why is this clutch so different from the 300? This was my first experience. Never the gas pedal.

I tried heel toeing with SRM on first day as well. I did not think I could ever get used to SRM, which is not the case anymore.

Driving home with blindspots, SRM, with it's S in corner, looking like a 5, made me think I had only 5 gears not 6 like the salesman said. The multi change CD player did not work either (because I have music box). And the stupid VDC going off made me think I'd just wasted my money.

The first 24 hours of ownership allowed me to sus things out.
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Thanks Gaurd Dad tried out your method this morning on a short trip to the grocery store. And to make sure it actually worked i used a thicker sole shoe and it worked like a charm. I tip my hat to you sir
Glad it helped, as I said it worked for me and it became second nature in a very short time.
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How much would an uprev tune cost? I have a few more parts I want to add, but when it is all finished, I want to get it tuned so they all work together properly.
About $500.00, but I don't think it's worth doing unless you've done other mods ( cai,cbe etc)
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