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Originally Posted by Mecinoid Not so sure a house is a great investment right now. If they start going back up in price then.... step in. Otherwise, why ride the

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Old 02-01-2012, 08:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Not so sure a house is a great investment right now. If they start going back up in price then.... step in. Otherwise, why ride the rollercoaster down. Not sure the ride is over yet.

This comes from someone that owns a house... out of work and has to stay working in his area because to sell his house in a bad market would be a poor move. I know it's relative... But, selling and not having enough left for a down after real estate commisions etc... is killing Americas ability to adjust to the circumstances we are in.

I mean, I'd take a job and live in Oklahoma and live for a lot less than Cali if I had a chance. I'm stuck fighting for the last scraps here in Cali and it isn't any fun I'm telling you.
This is definitely a tough market. Housing prices are only one of the reasons why it might not be a good time to buy. Are you sure that the market has bottomed? There's a glut of inventory on the market right now and they keep building new homes... are prices going to rise anytime soon? Might they even fall further?

And like in your situation, you don't want to be tied down to a certain area because you can't sell your house. There are a lot of people that would be able to get a job in another city or state but they can't because their home has anchored them and they can't afford to put it up for a firesale.

And there are people who might be fresh in their career and don't know if they are going to stay in their particular location for long. If I think I'm only going to be in DC for a few years buying a home might not be worth the risk.

Then of course there are people who are perfectly content with the apartment lifestyle. They don't want to be responsible for their own maintenance. Maybe they want to live close to where they work and buying a house that close to the city is just not in the cards financially. As an example, if I wanted to buy a house in the same area where I rent, my mortage would be double what my rent is. I don't want to take on that burden, especially if I am not comfortable with the housing market right now and if I am not even sure if I'll be in this area in the next 5 years.

There are plenty of reasons not to buy a house, just like there are plenty of reasons to buy one. So there's really no right or wrong answer and whether you own a home or not certainly lends nothing to your "credibility" as an "adult."

See what you did, ken? Epic derail. Now bring us some charburgers and cheese fries.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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And like in your situation, you don't want to be tied down to a certain area because you can't sell your house. There are a lot of people that would be able to get a job in another city or state but they can't because their home has anchored them and they can't afford to put it up for a firesale.

And there are people who might be fresh in their career and don't know if they are going to stay in their particular location for long.
Also, if you are in witness protection or have a stalker/stalkers (like moi), you probably don't want to buy a house and settle down in one area for too long
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There are plenty of reasons not to buy a house, just like there are plenty of reasons to buy one. So there's really no right or wrong answer and whether you own a home or not certainly lends nothing to your "credibility" as an "adult."

See what you did, ken? Epic derail. Now bring us some charburgers and cheese fries.
well the issue was more about pointing out if one had prior obligations like a mortgage. that's a completely different picture than just owning or leasing an economical $35K car and paying some rent. i didnt think it was fair to the op telling him wat he can or can't buy. he can decide for himself wat's right for him (i hope it's a him. ). that was the intent of the post.

but in my world, car hobby starts from the house with garage, not the car. i mean why have a nice car if you have to park it on the street or some apartment parking structure where wheels get stolen or doors keyed or watever that happens. if you have your own garage where you have access any time of the day, at least you can concentrate on the car, not fixing bs. i like progress, not rewinding to fix bs and waste time. i dont have time for that. another reason why i have a backup steering lock already... i dont like down time.

and i had homemade pizza tonight. charburgers and cheeze fries maybe friday. hahaha
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wow, huge derail within a few hours

I do have to agree, though, that it's not always about owning or not owning a house to be able to be credible.
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I remember when the rear buttsecks had to be replaced on my Z, that was the worst surprise cost ever.
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My Z is a low mileage fun car not a daily driver. Oil changes are a bit expensive. If you buy OEM spec Bridgestone tires, yes, tires will be expensive too. Other quality tires are available for a lot less.

Ultra high performance cars (the Z squeaks into that classification) also depend on premium tires to deliver ultra high performance. Have you priced the tires on a Corvette Grand Sport, Z06 or ZR1? Our tires look cheap by comparison.

Interesting point of reference: The iconic mid eighties flat twelve Ferrari Testarossa Supercar did the 1/4 mile in the mid 13s, just like a 370Z, but it can't hang with the Z in braking or cornering and don't even ask about gas mileage.

The Z is a fantastic performance bargain but it does cost more to operate than a generic car.
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My Z is a low mileage fun car not a daily driver. Oil changes are a bit expensive. If you buy OEM spec Bridgestone tires, yes, tires will be expensive too. Other quality tires are available for a lot less.

Ultra high performance cars (the Z squeaks into that classification) also depend on premium tires to deliver ultra high performance. Have you priced the tires on a Corvette Grand Sport, Z06 or ZR1? Our tires look cheap by comparison.

Interesting point of reference: The iconic mid eighties flat twelve Ferrari Testarossa Supercar did the 1/4 mile in the mid 13s, just like a 370Z, but it can't hang with the Z in braking or cornering and don't even ask about gas mileage.

The Z is a fantastic performance bargain but it does cost more to operate than a generic car.
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On topic: The CSC is a known problem for the 6MT crowd. Other than that, steering lock is covered under recall, engine oil is no more expensive than any other car. Tires are expensive. How expensive depends on how you drive
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On topic: The CSC is a known problem for the 6MT crowd. Other than that, steering lock is covered under recall, engine oil is no more expensive than any other car. Tires are expensive. How expensive depends on how you drive
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You know, based off these comments, nothing really sounds that bad. As a frame of reference

1) I already buy premium gas for my car, and I suspect when boosting enough (which I'm guilty of every single tank), I get around the same gas mileage as you guys (about 22-24 right now)

2) Tires are one thing I already expect to be pricey - I just spent $750 on summer tires/mounted on my car, and I would already suspect that a Z's tires would cost a bit more than that being larger/wider

3) Oil change doesn't sound so bad as I already buy 5qts of nice oil for my car now, I assumed for some unknown reason that everyone was dumping in that $16/qt oil

4) Mod prices for this car vs. my civic are surprisingly not that different. I made this comment on the civic forum a while ago when I noticed you guys have a lot of FI kits that cost less than what I paid to turbo my car. Of course, other things like exhausts cost 2x as much as a civic's does.. but mods are so extraneous that I wouldn't really worry about that

I've also been factoring in expenses on a brand new Nismo Z, which was looking like almost 40k from the dealer after TTL. Realistcally, if I do go with this car, I'm probably going to buy a used Sport or Sport/Touring closer to 25-30k since I can't even justify a Sport Z at 23, let alone a Nismo Thanks for the input
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