Got Screwed on the Deal....Items Now 4 Sale
 

Well, after waiting over 4 months and $2k down payment, my car comes in today and I go to pick it up and the dealer wants another $2400 !! They indicate the sales manager who made the deal back on 1/17/09 is no longer with them and they don't know what he did with his calculations. My contract has a disclosure statement at the bottom that says "Subject to VPP Auth. and incentives @ time of Delivery Current Pricing (Vehicle subject to price increase). My salesman indicated that quarter to quarter price increases are not usually more than $250, so I signed the contract. Deal was for a base + 7AT + Sport Package + mats, guards, and kick plates for $30,408 + $250 doc fee + 25.25 title fee + tax.
I came home so mad I shredded my penfed loan check. The dealer calls me up a half hour later and says he feels bad for the $2400 increase and is willing to reduce the difference by about $700 which he says is his commission for a vpp sale. Sorry for the long rant but I am really disappointed after waiting this long and finally seeing the car.

Having said all that, I had bought several items I was going to install on the car but now need to sale.
Here's what I have;
Invidia Q300 Cat Back new $850 + shipping
Berk High Flow Cats new $400 + shipping
Stillen Oil Cooler kit new $400 + shipping
Stillen Grounding Kit new $75 + shipping
JWT Pop Chargers used from 370Z member - $260 + shipping

Here's pic of my not to be car.

That was one heck of a deal. I got mine for $31000 except 6MT, the 7AT adds about $1K to that. If you could get it for $32000 it would still be a good deal and well under invoice.

You're right to be pissed though, I know I would be.

ouch that sucks. i would call corp nissan and at least let them know whats going on. that was a hell of a deal though.

With the limited amount of 370Zs around now at dealerships, and even at the new price, I think you are getting a good deal.

AT doesn't add anything to the price on the 370

Yes it does.

2009 Nissan 370Z Invoice Prices

Yea, you have the right to be upset. They're the ones that couldn't meet the ends deal. The fine print on that contract is obviously for their protection should things happen, and indeed, it did. I'm sure you can find another Z for a great deal. Just bring in the any printouts of the deal to another dealer. I'm sure someone will match or even beat that offer.

What's your plan now? Are you still buying a Z?


Yes, automatics are more mechanically complex, compare to a standard manual transmission. LOL... it pays to row your gears!

Dude, that really sucks. Sorry to hear what happened to you. I'd be tempted to throw a brick through their window. (That is NOT a recommendation, btw.)

This thread made me call my dealer and get a written quote of the price we settled on. If they did this to me I'd be LIVID!

semtex is just looking for more Rep Power....j/k! :p

I wonder if that is zip code-specific. On the Nissan website "Build Your Z" for my zip code and on my window sticker, AT is a "no cost" option. The car costs the same, either way, in middle Tennessee.

Scorpion -- you should name names. i.e., the name of this Stealership that did this to you. And then you should call them to let them know that you're warning everyone on this forum not to do business with them.

^ agreed ... thats not really fair of the dealer to do that... Whats the fvkin point of agreeing?

I think the sticker is a bit misleading. It's a no cost option because it's a difference base model. The price difference between the 2 base models is $1300 MSRP on the Nissan web site, even with a Tennessee zip code entered.

sorry about your story. but i think it would be better to also post on the parts for sale part of the forums.

i'm with semtex about naming them. post them up here so we know who we can black list.

I wouldn't post anything for sale just yet, that's just a heat of the moment reaction. Talk to some other dealers this weekend and see what you can figure out.

Wow... $1755 under invoice was a smokin' deal. Wonder who messed that up? Maybe they didn't add the Sport package when they accidentally gave that number or something. (hence the $2400, which is close to the invoice on sports?)

Sounds like when he called you back to offer you 700 difference (making it 1700 more than your original quote), he was dropping to invoice.

That sucks dude, sorry to hear it.

Apparently they DID make a mistake, but +$700 is still a screaming good deal no matter how you cut it, and better than VPP..

Whoa! You're right! That's deceptive. It says "included" at the lower price (without a separate price for the option) then, when you click it, it still says "included" without a separate price, but the total price for the car goes up.

Every other option has a price listed next to it. But the AT says, "included". Not nice.

True, it is still a deal. But I would still rather take the amount agreed upon than the $700. The mistake was on their end. They should deliver as it was mutual and signed upon.

No flame intended but...if I read your quote from the contract correctly -i.e., "Vehicle subject to price increase" and you signed that contract then it seems like they're within their rights to increase the price. You might have negotiated a cap on any increase to protect yourself before signing, especially since you were ordering the vehicle for future delivery. A cautionary tale for others. Caveat emptor. JMO

That price is too good. Was the contract written in January, before the big Nissan price increase?

If you can establish the quote was based on current pricing (see AK's invoice sheet), you have legal recourse. If the number was on the old pre-increase prices, you probably don't. Your state's equivalent of a small claims court is one way to proceed, but if you make enough noise (and if you're completely right), the dealer might sacrifice his complete holdback this one time.

If you go to court, you'll be able to subpoena the old sales manager, and this would be another very uncomfortable moment for your dealer. If they threw him out in the early spring with this economy, there "no love lost".

But back to your case... The difference was $2400, then they moved your way by $700. Rather than throwing a tantrum, throw THEM a counteroffer. (Whatever you think is reasonable and fair to both parties.) You're still in the midst of a negotiation, but this post makes it sound like you stormed off to the locker room.

Get all your facts together, chill, and call them back with a good-faith offer of... maybe $400. (Half as much as you want to go.) Explain that the court thing will take hours of your time you'd prefer to avoid, but you believe you're in your rights, etc. etc., you're losing thousands on the aftermarket buys, they had use of your $2K for 4 months interest free, blah blah.

Then let them stew ... and see if they come over halfway. At this point, you're going to settle midway between your "good faith" number, and their "final offer". If not, start a court action and serve them notice. (80-90% of civil actions are resolved before they ever get before a judge, but this shows you mean business.)

BTW, this is ALL part of the deal. Enjoy it -- perfect your technique.

"It ain't over 'til the Fair Lady squeals!"

I have to tell you, these nissan Managers are so fn arrogant its unreal!
Shopping for this car was not the greatest experience I have ever had.

I finally went to a dealer 1 hour out of my way, just cuz he was wiling to deal, not give me the "thats the lowest bs"

I think I got a good deal.

Z, Sport, 6MT, Illuminated Kick plates, wheel guards, Mats, tinted, NISMO Exhaust installed.

$33,200 + TTL ( purchased March 09 )

i can tell from his picture and his location that it is fred martin nissan.

i actually bought my frontier from there a couple years ago, and was planning on buying a Z there. then i decided to buy a motorcycle instead. i didn't really have a bad experience there, but many of the salesmen are the stereotypical arrogant salesman who will talk out their *** to make a sale. i pulled up once with a buddy to show him the new Z, and there were 5 salesmen standing around outside. we parked and they were all staring at us, ready to give us their sales pitch. we pulled right back out to avoid having to deal with these vultures, and the one guy like walked after the car yelling something.

i would kind of rather buy a car elsewhere anyways.

plus their commercials suck.

Yeah I dont know how much you argued this before you stormed off.... sounds to me like you were really excited about the car and the deal..then the dream fell apart and you were so close that you got really angry. Then you posted your parts for sale out of anger...

Sleep on it man, tomorrow is a new day and a new chance to get your Z.

Wow, I feel you, still a good deal tell them to up the 700 off to 1000 off and sign the deal.. hell you got all those parts, you'll lose more if you dont.. you could try shopiing around a lil bit but i dont think you'll find much better then that though,at least here in our area..

In the end, you know you still want the car. There's no denying that. You got all the parts already. Get it... install parts and drive it hard for some relief!

:iagree: Dude, just wait awhile! I know you're pissed, but if you're ok car wise right now, waiting will get you a great deal even though I know you don't want to wait...

It's still a good deal, I paid sticker in January!!

For most of you who are saying, "wow, that's still a good deal".....you need to close your mouth. I think you people missed the point by a mile. The OP was excited because its his dream car and his negotiation skill to get a killer price. If it's off by couple hundred, I would see how "that's still a good deal" apply. But we're talking about couple thousand here. How would you feel if someone stick you like that if you buying......say a house. That would be like 25k (proportion comparison) that you have to fork over on the closing date.

My question to the OP is this......Did you get your deposit back?

Sorry to hear that man but don't give up. Go to another dealer.

No, I don't think I'll close my mouth. Yes it's still a good deal. Dealerships/people make mistakes, I do not know if this was the case here or not. If it was a scam and he can prove it of course he should walk, but otherwise he should take a good deal.

I don't understand. You seriously bought parts before having the car?

What good reason do you have for even doing that?

Umm... if you actually read, he had the car on order and had paid deposit. So whats wrong with gettin a few hotrod parts while you wait?

I actually agree with the gist of your point (it's the principle of the matter, not the actual dollar amount), but there's no reason to use disrespectful language like "you need to close your mouth." This is a discussion forum, after all. We can disagree with one another without disrespecting each other.

I hope there is nothing wrong with getting performance parts before you have your Z. I have the Stillen CBE and Gen3 CAI's and a set of the Berk HFC's and my car doesn't get here until July.

I probably would not have done this if it weren't for those smooth talker's on this forum - AK, ChrisSlicks, RCZ, SoCal, semtex and wstar. Oh yes, and Josh for making it sooo easy....:tup:

:iagree:

It may still be a good deal. But why pay another $700+ on top of the agreed price which was signed on the contract? That's a binding legal agreement. They should deliver when the buyer had put his hard earned money in the play.

Yes, there was a fine print stating things, but does that apply to this specific situation where the dealer dropped the ball somewhere?

My assumption: the dealer didn't want to take the loss by giving the buyer the agreed price. And if the OP walks away, they can still turn around and sell the car for the right price; given the assumption that the dealer made the mistake somewhere. No loss taken, but time, and potential buyers should the OP names them.

^^ +1

Actually, I think he'd have to pay another $1700, not $700. The dealer wanted another $2400, then said they'd be willing to knock off $700 off of that, which still leaves him dishing out another $1700 to get his car.