Interior is subjective but you're right, the Z's is very well done.

Well compared to my scion xD interior....Z is like a million dollar car :happydance:

:bowrofl:

skidpad numbers
2011 gt 5.0: 0.94 g (2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 - Short Take Road Test - Car Reviews - Car and Driver)

2010 z roadster (which is claimed to be the same handling-wise as a coupe): 0.99 g (2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster Touring First Test - Motor Trend)

...meh?

i don't even get wtf this argument is about anymore.

I like that this forum is not just Z guys, it keeps opinions more fresh and provides different prospectives. Plus, from reading many, many other threads, I have learned a lot about my Z, from these "mustang" guys.

My next car will be Jesus! It can drive over water.

or the BMW 335! :p
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actually the FI Z would overheat and not even make it around one lap. :tiphat:
they are called car enthusiasts. m4a1mustang mentions in his posts that the Z is better in some regards, but you, as a fanboy, cannot accept that another similarly priced car could be better in some way. So when another car is better, you come up with some convoluted way of rationalizing how the Z could be better given a set of hypothetical circumstances. or just talk about how that car that is better in some way is just overpriced german snob car, or some american redneck crap, or _________(insert excuse here)

fixed!

or here:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dIR_7DNTIs...-sexy-lips.jpg


.... or here: :ugh2:
http://cheesesteakswithbarkley.files...glory-hole.jpg

People like me???????? Oh so you're saying the stangs live axle can put down the same number on the street as it can on the track.... since you're the stang head. You find it and prove me wrong. Show me where the live axle has had near equal handling on the street than it does on a track. I am not looking for a almost 2 year old artticle. Has the live axle improved greatly on the street??? ABSOLUTELY. Rain capabilities improved since the 10, definately... are there inherent weaknesses on the live axle on the street vs an ind susp quality sports car"?? OF COURSE... Nothng in what I wrote were bad numbers or mustang bashing. You can find the same info just reading compilations of articles as well... but whatever stang.
You're Mr. I had one first.
You're Mr. I'm not only a member, I'm also the president.
And you bought the stang cuz it was sooooooooo much better than the Z that in spite of your "loooooove" for the Z you just had to buy the greatest car on the planet. And sorry that none of us know as much as you. Even if we been up against your cars and know a little something. Just a little. Like I asked before... how many stangs did you own before you went to a Z and then bought a Stang? A reason why I ask... you will find what you drive more to handle better if in fact you been behind one so long that its almost all you know as a vehicle. Now I know you came on here already with your AR and mustang praise... so I know you're experience with mustangs is way more than Z's in a time factor.

Fanboys only love their cars. There's a lot of cars I love equally or more than the Z.
But whatever.... you keep talkin' it.

Glad to see that after a slow start, this thread has begun to pick up some steam.

Just gonna sit back and :drama: until she reaches her dramatic conclusion. :happydance:

Not gonna read through every page but lol at this OP... I find the Zs interior to be much nicer than the mustang unless the fact you can change your interior light colors is all you need.. As for which is a better "sports" car I'd take the Z hands down

Sorry man, but you can't put down made up numbers to support your argument and then tell me to go find proof to prove you wrong. That's not how it works.

Face it, there isn't an article. You made the numbers up to try and support your argument and you didn't count on people calling your bluff. Since you can't produce anything to support your claims, you are trying to spin it and pawn it off on me.

The rest of your post... I don't really know what all that means or how you even got to that point.

You are the one that implied I was a Mustang fanboy. To counter, I simply stated all of the things that I do involving the 370Z community because I still love the car and am still good friends with the people.

I love this part. When did I ever say I traded the car because the 5.0 was better? I am on record here saying the only reason I traded was because I had a lot of fun with the Z and wanted to try out a new ride. And guess what... I'm going to do the same thing with the Mustang when I trade it in on something else.

You're getting very defensive, Unknown. We all know why.

can't we all just get along?

8==D

So it changed from "it's in a motor trend article" to "you prove me wrong?"

Life pro tip: burden of proof is on YOU.


side note: I've never owned a mustang before, and I echo mustang's sentiments. Riddle me that one.

only if everyone here says the 370z is the best car ever made.

I was messin with them at the moment of that post... at least the one you quoted... they are HUGE contributors and many of you should be greatful they are here... but that's a genral statement has little to do with this generic thread.

My 300zx ran an 8 second quarter mile. I dont have the time slip, but you can't find a time slip to prove that i didn't run an 8 so therefore i did run an 8. i win. you lose.

I'm still waiting on that article. You're not going to back away from this one. :rolleyes:

Its one of em' I read em all so its hard to remember. I read automobile, MT, C&D, R&T, IT, Dsport, Lowrider, modified and the audio tuner one... can't remember the name right now...
Didn't both of you buy Red " non-sport Z's and add your own everything??? Weren't you the one who barely drove your Z cuz it was always in the shop and got rid of it cuz it was a complete lemon? Everything was breaking down on it... am I wrong? Didn't you trade your Z with very little miles on it for a mustang due to your 370z saga???

Hm. I ran an 8 second quarter mile too, but all I have is this 7 second time slip. Will you accept that?

I thought this was a commonly known universal constant? :stirthepot:

I put about 15k on my z, more than enough to be familiar with it.


More important than raw miles is the closed course time seen anyways...

Way to try to spin out of this one.

If you bring the numbers, YOU need to back them up with the source. At this point it's painfully obvious you pulled them all right out of your rear end and are trying as hard as you can to deflect so you won't look any more ignorant.

As far as my Z... it was a Sport + Touring, no nav.

:drama: IBTL

Also, +1 for the Super Mustang Bros ;) :tup:

m4a1 is my favorite poster, and if he left I would be sad.

We would all be sad :(

Why do the cool threads pick up when I am out of work and have stuff to do? Why can't troll-fests happen during the normal 9-5 office hours? :(

7 isn't fair so no, it doesn't count.
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yea, i'd hate to see the kinds of grades he must have gotten on essays that required citations.

Teacher: Your essay has no citations, nor does it have a bibliography. where did you get this information from?
Unknown: I read all of the information on the topic... its from that stuff

http://www.tomamusica.com/caratulas/...-Delantera.jpg



And for good measure:

http://wizbangpop.com/images/2008/12...tine-heart.jpg

I didn't make up the numbers... there's over 1000 legitamtely established mustang articles to search thru.... that's the issue. I'm not going to read each one to find it. That's a lot of research on a mustang in a Z forum. You drive the cars. If its that important to you? Find it. All I truly remember was 2010 vs 2011 mustang GT's with comparable equip packages and the general stats... the article focused heavily on the improved streetability on the 2011 mustang GT over the 2010 as well as the comparo of engines. Twist it any way you want mustang. I'm just sayin...
I'm glad you moved on with your car and that's great. Though for the last decade I kept nissans, I have had different cars to play with as well... But right now ur acting like I'm trolling stang because of having knowleledge of a handling stat on the street. Doesn't make sense. Whatever though. Tell me why I'm making up the stat????

I'm not the one twisting. You are. And I've done an exhaustive search (it really only takes 10 minutes tops these days if you know how to use Google) and came up with nothing.

You presented the argument so the burden is on you to back it up. I went and searched (which I shouldn't have had to have done) and found nothing. So it's safe to assume that you just made it all up. Now you prove that you didn't.

And I'm not acting like you have knowledge of anything.

I don't need to push this any further because I know I'm not the only one in this thread that knows what's going on here.

wow, i didn't think this back and forth would go for this long

Lol, @ this thread. I think we have enough mustang vs z thread banter to start a new forum.

Lol... it hasn't been Mustang vs. Z for pages. It's been about the truth vs. misinformation.

Well here's an article of the mustang getting .91g on the track...

2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 Full Test and Video

Which is a median of my street .87g and mustangs 95 track. Sounds realistic to me....

i thought the initial argument was that skid pad and track were different...that article says the skid pad numbers were 0.91g?

:bowrofl:

Now you're getting desperate. You can't find the "article" that backs up your bogus claim, so now you find the lowest test number you can find and try to spin it in your favor.

Let me go and find the lowest 370Z skidpad number I can find and call it the "median." :facepalm: