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Old 12-28-2011, 09:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm not really sure where you answered it, but the response was a given anyways... so it doesn't really matter.
Not even sure what your question was, but I believe I already stated my opinion in full detail. I don't believe there's anything more I can say without ending up repeating myself.
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This was my experience with GS, Z06, and ZR1's that I have driven. At the limit, you get VERY PREDICTABLE under-steer with a lot of feed back from a good tire like the PS2, that is mitigated with a laying off of the gas-pedal or light application of the brake. The car is as docile as you let it be with no Jekyll and Hyde tendencies. I just wanted to inquire if the 370Z had any due to the shorter wheel-base and different suspension design. I am not familiar with the 370Z except for test drives that obviously did not involve the limit.
Rather suprised to hear that considering that every review of the corvettes handling state that they tend to oversteer a lot with even a bit of throttle application. Well, if you find a corvette predictable, easy, and understeers, you'll have an easier time with a 370z. The Z does have a shorter wheelbase, but the suspension is quite soft (unless you go with the harder Nismo version which I havent driven), the engine is less powerful, and the suspension is set up from the factory with a bit of understeer. There's nothing unpredictable at all. Of course if you do something stupid like floor it in the middle of a right angle turn in 1st gear, yeah, you'll find yourself facing backwards in a flash. But other than that it's easy to drive.

Of course if you do plan on driving it on snow or on near freezing temperatures, definitely get snow tires. The stock tires are summer only and would not work at all in the winter.
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After the next snow I'm going to drive up your way in an SRT-10 to buy you a beer.
Just let me know before hand when you will be coming, so I can get my *** off the road and hide in a far away place in case you spin out and crash
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Not even sure what your question was, but I believe I already stated my opinion in full detail. I don't believe there's anything more I can say without ending up repeating myself. Rather suprised to hear that considering that every review of the corvettes handling state that they tend to oversteer a lot with even a bit of throttle application. Well, if you find a corvette predictable, easy, and understeers, you'll have an easier time with a 370z. The Z does have a shorter wheelbase, but the suspension is quite soft (unless you go with the harder Nismo version which I havent driven), the engine is less powerful, and the suspension is set up from the factory with a bit of understeer. There's nothing unpredictable at all. Of course if you do something stupid like floor it in the middle of a right angle turn in 1st gear, yeah, you'll find yourself facing backwards in a flash. But other than that it's easy to drive.

Of course if you do plan on driving it on snow or on near freezing temperatures, definitely get snow tires. The stock tires are summer only and would not work at all in the winter.
I'm not applying the throttle when entering a corner. That comes after the apex when I am straightening the wheel and exiting the corner, and it happens smoothly and results in a gentle weight-shift to the rear as the wheel straightens and the car happily lunges out of the corner with very little drama.

I am glad to hear of the 370Z's nature. Frustrated I don't have one yet, not because I don't love my Z06, but because I have made up my mind, and once I make up my mind on something, I want it. Then. However, patience is a virtue, so I console myself with this thread and others.
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I'm not applying the throttle when entering a corner. That comes after the apex when I am straightening the wheel and exiting the corner, and it happens smoothly and results in a gentle weight-shift to the rear as the wheel straightens and the car happily lunges out of the corner with very little drama.

I am glad to hear of the 370Z's nature. Frustrated I don't have one yet, not because I don't love my Z06, but because I have made up my mind, and once I make up my mind on something, I want it. Then. However, patience is a virtue, so I console myself with this thread and others.
370Z is definitely a fun car. Way different when you are comparing it to a Z06. If I were in your shoes I definitely couldn't make the jump simply because the power hit would be too big for me to overcome... but I don't doubt that you will have fun with it.
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370Z is definitely a fun car. Way different when you are comparing it to a Z06. If I were in your shoes I definitely couldn't make the jump simply because the power hit would be too big for me to overcome... but I don't doubt that you will have fun with it.
I understand, but like you said...I'm not using that 505bhp all the time. Where I am moving to, it "has no place" because of all the mountain roads, etc. with sharp corners and whatnot. I would only use 2-300whp of it for the most part during my "spirited" drives, so then it comes to a point that I am paying for things I am not using.

It's flat here where I live now, except for on/off ramps. Power is all that matters for the most part here. Not so much where I am going (Fayettville, AR).

Then I have the other issue...what next? A SRT-10? I mean, I can't keep living in the 6-7#/bhp range on my income and still expect to buy the 30-50 acres and house I want. Compromises must be made. There will be a time to be a dirty old man in a car too fast for him later on in life. The Z06 was a "I want to do it once, and to insure this, I will do it now!" type thing. Love it, but it's time to move on from this, too.

I don't know if that makes sense to you or you agree with it, but it's clear to me?
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I understand, but like you said...I'm not using that 505bhp all the time. Where I am moving to, it "has no place" because of all the mountain roads, etc. with sharp corners and whatnot. I would only use 2-300whp of it for the most part during my "spirited" drives, so then it comes to a point that I am paying for things I am not using.

It's flat here where I live now, except for on/off ramps. Power is all that matters for the most part here. Not so much where I am going (Fayettville, AR).

Then I have the other issue...what next? A SRT-10? I mean, I can't keep living in the 6-7#/bhp range on my income and still expect to buy the 30-50 acres and house I want. Compromises must be made. There will be a time to be a dirty old man in a car too fast for him later on in life. The Z06 was a "I want to do it once, and to insure this, I will do it now!" type thing. Love it, but it's time to move on from this, too.

I don't know if that makes sense to you or you agree with it, but it's clear to me?
You've definitely got to find a happy medium based on who you are as a driver (and where you are in life)... some people could push a Z06 pretty hard on the street (probably a bit dangerous) while some might not even be able to push a Miata hard on the street... so what's right for one driver isn't always right for another.

It's down to personal preference. And I think I speak for most of the car guys here when I say it's almost impossible to truly be happy with any one car given how demanding we are about performance and also because we tend to be very curious about cars we haven't yet owned. We end up jumping around to a lot of different cars. We have fun with them and then move on to the next adventure. Some of us just do it more frequently than others.
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You've definitely got to find a happy medium based on who you are as a driver (and where you are in life)... some people could push a Z06 pretty hard on the street (probably a bit dangerous) while some might not even be able to push a Miata hard on the street... so what's right for one driver isn't always right for another.

It's down to personal preference. And I think I speak for most of the car guys here when I say it's almost impossible to truly be happy with any one car given how demanding we are about performance and also because we tend to be very curious about cars we haven't yet owned. We end up jumping around to a lot of different cars. We have fun with them and then move on to the next adventure. Some of us just do it more frequently than others.
definitely. and if you drive the same car every day, you will make that jump faster because you will get sick of it faster. The parts you like about it for fun, (loud, stiff, fast) will start to bother you when you need it as your DD and it quickly turns into (noisy, uncomfortable, poor gas mileage).

that being said, i'd rather DD a fun car than a POS, if i could only have one.
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definitely. and if you drive the same car every day, you will make that jump faster because you will get sick of it faster. The parts you like about it for fun, (loud, stiff, fast) will start to bother you when you need it as your DD and it quickly turns into (noisy, uncomfortable, poor gas mileage).

that being said, i'd rather DD a fun car than a POS, if i could only have one.

Well, the Z06 is stiff and loud, but not too loud, and the gas mileage is killer. I get about 26 on the freeway. I don't tool around town in it, so I'm at a loss, there, but my DIC says the average over the life of the car has been 18-19mpg or so, last I cleared it out.

I do not feel I am getting my money out of my Z06 because I don't track it, and I don't feel safe on the street pushing the car like that. The street has hazards that a track doesn't, and it's not wise. I feel I would get my money out of the 370Z much moreso. Hence my trade when "my" car is available in the US.
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