Lots of wrecked Z's...

Red__Zed · 12-28-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

so if you had a viper srt 10 to drive year round, you'd just put snow tires and continue as usual?

never driven a mid engine car, but i drove a few front midship cars and actually i felt they were very stable under braking. And braking less is not always an option on the street. What if a guy cuts you off? Or a bus unexpectedly pulls out of the bus bay? Or a pedestrian decides to jaywalk across the street right in front of you?

simply put, if you don't have the ability to brake with tons of weight on the front axles, you don't have it at all. Besides, if it's a pedestrian you are avoiding, let the rear end come out-- who cares?

I'm curious what front mid-ship cars you've driven since you've never driven another RWD car.

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

actually i'm talking about braking in a straight line. a lighter rear end is more prone to fishtailing under hard braking. yes in a corner the opposite is true, and the car will tend to understeer. but in a straight line, with the car diving under hard braking, with all the drivetrain weight on the front wheels, the rear wheels are very prone to losing grip. that's why many older pickup trucks used to come with ABS only on the rear axle.

they'll lose grip but they really aren't if there's not much weight out back. besides, lighten up on the pedal if that happens...

Pharmacist · 12-28-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

simply put, if you don't have the ability to brake with tons of weight on the front axles, you don't have it at all. Besides, if it's a pedestrian you are avoiding, let the rear end come out-- who cares?

I'm curious what front mid-ship cars you've driven since you've never driven another RWD car.

they'll lose grip but they really aren't if there's not much weight out back. besides, lighten up on the pedal if that happens...

Which FM car I drove? a couple of infiniti awd g coupes. none was mine but i drove them a few times. and the point wasn't my braking ability. I am perfectly capable of braking, though thanks for your advice

The point was that "tons of weight over the front axle" is not necessarily a good thing to have on a car.

m4a1mustang · 12-28-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

The point was that "tons of weight over the front axle" is not necessarily a good thing to have on a car.

Because the back end might wiggle.

Pharmacist · 12-28-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Because the back end might wiggle.

glad we agree on something

Red__Zed · 12-28-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

Which FM car I drove? a couple of infiniti awd g coupes. none was mine but i drove them a few times. and the point wasn't my braking ability. I am perfectly capable of braking, though thanks for your advice

The point was that "tons of weight over the front axle" is not necessarily a good thing to have on a car.

no, it's an awful thing. it causes cars to push through the turns and slows you down. but it generates the behavior you love in the Z, and makes snow driving pretty easy.

neither the Z nor the G are true FMR designs btw.

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