Another 370z Gone

sonic370 · 11-04-2011, 08:25 PM

it's hard to make a fair judgement call without all the facts.. sounds like the guy in the truck has anger management issues.......

bad deal all the way around... but proves once again and i don't blame the driver of the 370. but in the wrong hands these cars can kill.....

hope the z driver recovers fully.............

Calebluna · 11-04-2011, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyberium

Cale,

If there is anything we can do... let us know. I'm sure the Z community will come together to help a fallen brother. By the sounds of things, he was only trying to do a good deed and things got out of control.

Thanks for the support guys, Sean is strong I'm sure he will make through. All we really can do is pray and hope he does.

Nismoracer · 11-06-2011, 11:46 PM

Unfortunate. I'm sure there are dipshits around the world but this area of the panhandle is filled to the rim with southern fried ignorant hillbillies. Male and female. If it wasnt for the military bases it would be *** backwards. They take pride in fist fighting over the dumbest ****. It wouldnt matter if you tried to rationize with people here. They have the IQ of a picnic table. You either fight or shut up and leave the situation. I have had my share of fights. Now that im older they like to sue. It is really hard when you are surrounded by idiots who have no ability for cognitive thinking or rational thought. Its a beautiful place but the people here suck.

People here are simple minded and if you dont think like they do you dont belong. If you're not a southern fried redneck they are bitter and ugly towards you. They really wish they won the civil war. A town just north of fwb called crestview is 100x worse. That place is unbearable and straight out of a slasher movie. ( deliverance, hills have eyes, texas chainsaw )it's like that and thats not an exaggeration.

The road that they were on is congested and uneven and not that far from a police station. Usually theres cops all along that strip. I cant see doing 100mph. He had to have been scared and the girl probably indicated to him that her bf is crazy and has a gun or something. Sad. Guy tries to be nice and gets thrown into a jerry springer episode. Sorry to hear this. Most if not all Z owners that i have met seem like swell guys.

tjlazer · 11-07-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismoracer

Unfortunate. I'm sure there are dipshits around the world but this area of the panhandle is filled to the rim with southern fried ignorant hillbillies. Male and female. If it wasnt for the military bases it would be *** backwards. They take pride in fist fighting over the dumbest ****. It wouldnt matter if you tried to rationize with people here. They have the IQ of a picnic table. You either fight or shut up and leave the situation. I have had my share of fights. Now that im older they like to sue. It is really hard when you are surrounded by idiots who have no ability for cognitive thinking or rational thought. Its a beautiful place but the people here suck.

People here are simple minded and if you dont think like they do you dont belong. If you're not a southern fried redneck they are bitter and ugly towards you. They really wish they won the civil war. A town just north of fwb called crestview is 100x worse. That place is unbearable and straight out of a slasher movie. ( deliverance, hills have eyes, texas chainsaw )it's like that and thats not an exaggeration.

The road that they were on is congested and uneven and not that far from a police station. Usually theres cops all along that strip. I cant see doing 100mph. He had to have been scared and the girl probably indicated to him that her bf is crazy and has a gun or something. Sad. Guy tries to be nice and gets thrown into a jerry springer episode. Sorry to hear this. Most if not all Z owners that i have met seem like swell guys.

Spot on. I was stationed at Hurlburt in the mid 90's. Beautiful scenary, but that's about it.

eclipse99fwb · 11-07-2011, 01:49 PM

Actually the guy who started this post got alot of information wrong, or is just guessing. I know cause my sister was in the wreck, first the 370z driver was hanging out with my sister for a friends bday until he went to drop her off at her suv around 5am, so that she could get her kids and go to work that morning. I don't know what happen when the guy pulled up, thats for the police to determine but all I know is he went flying out of the parking lot at the end of whatever occured. There was no gun mention in any news or accident report and I don't believe any assault, 370z driver decided to flee at high speed, and my brother inlaw made a stupid choice to follow them. I'm not coming on here to start trouble or past blame, as far as im concern they both hold blame and are lucky they didn't kill someone. Now from what I was told yesterday (again not sure it's 100% fact, Im not his family), the 370z driver was taking out of a induced coma, and he was able to move his hands and feet. So hopefully he will be fine, and please everyone should keep praying for his recovery. Now as far as the actually accident, no the silverado did not pit him, run him off the road,etc. If you read the accident report you will see this also( link: Police release accident report in FWB crash (SLIDESHOW, REPORT) | report, fwb, police - Northwest Florida Daily News ) the 370z driver was flying up on traffic with the silverado right behind him, the driver hit the brakes hard causing the silverado to slam into the rear. Given its rwd it lost control with all the weight being transferred to the front during braking. This is case of two people how made bad choices, hopefully they learn from this. This actually could happen to anyone who has ever tailgated someone at high speeds (street racing, stupid driving,etc.) this was just a case of two people too close together and not enough distance to stop. I Hope the 370z driver is able to recover fully and maybe in the future this may stop someone else from making these mistakes.
Oh I was told about this post by my friend

edit: All of the above was edited to remove information that probably should be left for lawyers to discuss, I left the details that are public, the accident report states exactly what happened. This is not add fuel for theorys or anything, this is to give a better idea of the truth to what happen and hopefully prevent any future occurences. (thanks to Red_Zone probably should of thought of that) As for known charges all from the accident report my brother inlaw is facing Operating a motor vehicle in a wreckless or aggressive manner, exceeded posted speed limit, failure to maintain proper lane w/other contributing causes. The 370z driver faces Operating a motor vehicle in a wreckless or aggressive manner, exceeded posted speed limit.

Also I think if the 370z driver would have had his seatbelt on he would of been alot less injured. The reason I think this is if you look at the crash photo #1, you can clearly see the seat was still attached to the floor around the transmission tunnel (saving the photo so you can zoom in helps) along with front portion of the floor on the door side. Also the seatbelt is still attached to the a pillar I belive it's called. Now keep in mind according to the article the fire department used the jaws of life to cut portions of the car (assuming door, and maybe the roof structure some) to gain access to the ingition since the car was still running. They ending up cutting the electical supply. Not sure but doesn't 370z come with push button ingition, or does the base model have a standard ingition? Just a thought as to why they might have not been able to find it, if it was push button. Also I know it comes standard now with rollover airbags, was this standard in 09 base? I just think with at least the seatbelt and if it had the airbag in that model, he wouldn't have been nearly hurt. Maybe some broken ribs, or limbs but not a neck injury, I'm pretty sure that came from the ejection. Anyways just thought I would point this out, maybe get someone who doesn't wear it, to begin.

Thechidz · 11-07-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eclipse99fwb

Actually the guy who started this post got alot of information wrong, or is just guessing. I know cause my sister was in the wreck, first the 370z driver was hanging out with my sister for a friends bday until he went to drop her off at her suv around 5am, so that she could get her kids and go to work that morning. I don't know what happen when the guy pulled up, thats for the police to determine but all I know is he went flying out of the parking lot at the end of whatever occured. There was no gun and I don't believe any assault, 370z driver decided to flee at high speed, and my brother inlaw made a stupid choice to follow them. I'm not coming on here to start trouble or past blame, as far as im concern they both hold blame and are lucky they didn't kill someone. Now from what I was told yesterday (again not sure it's 100% fact, Im not his family), the 370z driver was taking out of a induced coma, and he was able to move his hands and feet. So hopefully he will be fine, and please everyone should keep praying for his recovery. Now as far as the actually accident, no the silverado did not pit him, run him off the road. If you read the accident report you will see this also( link: Police release accident report in FWB crash (SLIDESHOW, REPORT) | report, fwb, police - Northwest Florida Daily News ) the 370z driver was flying up on traffic with the silverado right behind him, the driver hit the brakes hard causing the silverado to slam into the rear. Given its rwd it lost control with all the weight being transferred to the front during braking. This is case of two people how made bad choices, hopefully they learn from this. This actually could happen to anyone who has ever tailgated someone at high speeds (street racing, stupid driving,etc.) this was just a case of two people too close together a

how is your sister doing? It was stupid of the z driver to race off so fast without his seatbelt, and it was really stupid of your brotherinlaw to chase them. really really stupid

mjg · 11-04-2011, 08:41 PM

Looking at that picture is painful.. If you walk away alive from that, you are truly lucky.

travnflorida · 11-05-2011, 03:04 PM

Man thats on the road i live on too

CC_370z · 11-06-2011, 10:47 AM

Sad, sorry to see and hear that.

Glokwork · 11-06-2011, 03:16 PM

This whole situation is terrible and over something so petty. I'm really pulling for Sean, any updates Cale?

tjlazer · 11-06-2011, 05:01 PM

some people get crazed when you mess with their woman. You also hear it all the time, with the guys who go nuts when a women leaves them. Really sad... really sorry Sean was at the wrong place at the right time.

Montez · 11-06-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer

some people get crazed when you mess with their woman. You also hear it all the time, with the guys who go nuts when a women leaves them.

True true, have seen that many times. I'm sure that she lied and said that she didn't have man, those lies are what lead to crazy shi*t like this. Hope Sean recovers well and truck driver gets what he deserves!

DarkZide · 11-06-2011, 06:41 PM

Man, girls just aren't worth things like this. Not in the least.

I only wish he was a permitted gun carrying citizen, as soon as the truck chased him and started ramming him he likely could have stopped and shot him and been in the clear. After all, if you ram a cop with a car its "assault with a deadly weapon".

RiCharlie · 11-07-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

I only wish he was a permitted gun carrying citizen, as soon as the truck chased him and started ramming him he likely could have stopped and shot him and been in the clear.

If only things were this simple...but they are not. Just what we need..more guns in the hands of people who are drinking and jealous boyfriends...

eclipse99fwb · 11-07-2011, 07:39 PM

Cmike2780 I wasn't there so I can't say how or why it happened, I was just reporting what the accident report said.
Heres what it says page 8: "Vehicle 2 (370z) was impeded by traffic in the roadway in front of him and applied his brakes. This cause the front of vehicle 1 (silverado) to collide withe rear of vehicle 2. The impact cause vehicle 2 to exit the roadway to the left..."
The accident report is from witness statements along with evidence, so I thought it probably is likely what happened.

I wasn't saying his braking caused him lose control, I meant the combination of braking with a rearend impact immediatly following.
just a theory but if he was going 70+mph and applied full braking power, this shifted the cars wait forward. At the same time if the car with all the weight going forward was hit from behind, would push the car into a spin.
I'm only getting this from my past experience of owning a nissan hardbody rwd truck and remembering how shifting the weight in it, I could easily get the backend to spin. Again just a theory, I'm leaving it to the police who are more experts than I.
Also I'm not trying to justify anyones action, my personal opinon is they both commited stupid acts, nothing can justify putting the public at danger like that. Lets all just learn something from this, no ones family needs to go through what that guys family is going through.

11-07-2011, 01:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
eclipse99fwb Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Denver CO Posts: 3 Drives: cavalier Rep Power: 15	Actually the guy who started this post got alot of information wrong, or is just guessing. I know cause my sister was in the wreck, first the 370z driver was hanging out with my sister for a friends bday until he went to drop her off at her suv around 5am, so that she could get her kids and go to work that morning. I don't know what happen when the guy pulled up, thats for the police to determine but all I know is he went flying out of the parking lot at the end of whatever occured. There was no gun mention in any news or accident report and I don't believe any assault, 370z driver decided to flee at high speed, and my brother inlaw made a stupid choice to follow them. I'm not coming on here to start trouble or past blame, as far as im concern they both hold blame and are lucky they didn't kill someone. Now from what I was told yesterday (again not sure it's 100% fact, Im not his family), the 370z driver was taking out of a induced coma, and he was able to move his hands and feet. So hopefully he will be fine, and please everyone should keep praying for his recovery. Now as far as the actually accident, no the silverado did not pit him, run him off the road,etc. If you read the accident report you will see this also( link: Police release accident report in FWB crash (SLIDESHOW, REPORT) \| report, fwb, police - Northwest Florida Daily News ) the 370z driver was flying up on traffic with the silverado right behind him, the driver hit the brakes hard causing the silverado to slam into the rear. Given its rwd it lost control with all the weight being transferred to the front during braking. This is case of two people how made bad choices, hopefully they learn from this. This actually could happen to anyone who has ever tailgated someone at high speeds (street racing, stupid driving,etc.) this was just a case of two people too close together and not enough distance to stop. I Hope the 370z driver is able to recover fully and maybe in the future this may stop someone else from making these mistakes. Oh I was told about this post by my friend edit: All of the above was edited to remove information that probably should be left for lawyers to discuss, I left the details that are public, the accident report states exactly what happened. This is not add fuel for theorys or anything, this is to give a better idea of the truth to what happen and hopefully prevent any future occurences. (thanks to Red_Zone probably should of thought of that) As for known charges all from the accident report my brother inlaw is facing Operating a motor vehicle in a wreckless or aggressive manner, exceeded posted speed limit, failure to maintain proper lane w/other contributing causes. The 370z driver faces Operating a motor vehicle in a wreckless or aggressive manner, exceeded posted speed limit. Also I think if the 370z driver would have had his seatbelt on he would of been alot less injured. The reason I think this is if you look at the crash photo #1, you can clearly see the seat was still attached to the floor around the transmission tunnel (saving the photo so you can zoom in helps) along with front portion of the floor on the door side. Also the seatbelt is still attached to the a pillar I belive it's called. Now keep in mind according to the article the fire department used the jaws of life to cut portions of the car (assuming door, and maybe the roof structure some) to gain access to the ingition since the car was still running. They ending up cutting the electical supply. Not sure but doesn't 370z come with push button ingition, or does the base model have a standard ingition? Just a thought as to why they might have not been able to find it, if it was push button. Also I know it comes standard now with rollover airbags, was this standard in 09 base? I just think with at least the seatbelt and if it had the airbag in that model, he wouldn't have been nearly hurt. Maybe some broken ribs, or limbs but not a neck injury, I'm pretty sure that came from the ejection. Anyways just thought I would point this out, maybe get someone who doesn't wear it, to begin. Last edited by eclipse99fwb; 11-07-2011 at 04:24 PM. Reason: erased the legal issue stuff

11-06-2011, 10:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
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11-06-2011, 03:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
Glokwork A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 2,657 Drives: 11 370Z MB 6MT Rep Power: 23	This whole situation is terrible and over something so petty. I'm really pulling for Sean, any updates Cale? __________________ Precision Turbo Tial Turbosmart Fast Intentions Seibon Prosport Advan AD08R HKS Hipermax IV Nismo Evo-R PW:JDM UpRev Pioneer Escort Volk CE28N Top Mount Single Turbo 551whp/482wtq@10psi

11-06-2011, 05:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 54 Posts: 2,497 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 21	some people get crazed when you mess with their woman. You also hear it all the time, with the guys who go nuts when a women leaves them. Really sad... really sorry Sean was at the wrong place at the right time. __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

11-04-2011, 08:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 20	it's hard to make a fair judgement call without all the facts.. sounds like the guy in the truck has anger management issues....... bad deal all the way around... but proves once again and i don't blame the driver of the 370. but in the wrong hands these cars can kill..... hope the z driver recovers fully.............

11-06-2011, 11:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 16	Unfortunate. I'm sure there are dipshits around the world but this area of the panhandle is filled to the rim with southern fried ignorant hillbillies. Male and female. If it wasnt for the military bases it would be * backwards. They take pride in fist fighting over the dumbest **. It wouldnt matter if you tried to rationize with people here. They have the IQ of a picnic table. You either fight or shut up and leave the situation. I have had my share of fights. Now that im older they like to sue. It is really hard when you are surrounded by idiots who have no ability for cognitive thinking or rational thought. Its a beautiful place but the people here suck. People here are simple minded and if you dont think like they do you dont belong. If you're not a southern fried redneck they are bitter and ugly towards you. They really wish they won the civil war. A town just north of fwb called crestview is 100x worse. That place is unbearable and straight out of a slasher movie. ( deliverance, hills have eyes, texas chainsaw )it's like that and thats not an exaggeration. The road that they were on is congested and uneven and not that far from a police station. Usually theres cops all along that strip. I cant see doing 100mph. He had to have been scared and the girl probably indicated to him that her bf is crazy and has a gun or something. Sad. Guy tries to be nice and gets thrown into a jerry springer episode. Sorry to hear this. Most if not all Z owners that i have met seem like swell guys.

11-04-2011, 08:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
mjg Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: nyc Posts: 243 Drives: 13' GT 500 Rep Power: 17	Looking at that picture is painful.. If you walk away alive from that, you are truly lucky.

11-05-2011, 03:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
travnflorida Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: florida Posts: 71 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z cou Rep Power: 16	Man thats on the road i live on too

11-06-2011, 06:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
DarkZide Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: TN Posts: 291 Drives: 2010 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 17	Man, girls just aren't worth things like this. Not in the least. I only wish he was a permitted gun carrying citizen, as soon as the truck chased him and started ramming him he likely could have stopped and shot him and been in the clear. After all, if you ram a cop with a car its "assault with a deadly weapon".

11-07-2011, 07:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
eclipse99fwb Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Denver CO Posts: 3 Drives: cavalier Rep Power: 15	Cmike2780 I wasn't there so I can't say how or why it happened, I was just reporting what the accident report said. Heres what it says page 8: "Vehicle 2 (370z) was impeded by traffic in the roadway in front of him and applied his brakes. This cause the front of vehicle 1 (silverado) to collide withe rear of vehicle 2. The impact cause vehicle 2 to exit the roadway to the left..." The accident report is from witness statements along with evidence, so I thought it probably is likely what happened. I wasn't saying his braking caused him lose control, I meant the combination of braking with a rearend impact immediatly following. just a theory but if he was going 70+mph and applied full braking power, this shifted the cars wait forward. At the same time if the car with all the weight going forward was hit from behind, would push the car into a spin. I'm only getting this from my past experience of owning a nissan hardbody rwd truck and remembering how shifting the weight in it, I could easily get the backend to spin. Again just a theory, I'm leaving it to the police who are more experts than I. Also I'm not trying to justify anyones action, my personal opinon is they both commited stupid acts, nothing can justify putting the public at danger like that. Lets all just learn something from this, no ones family needs to go through what that guys family is going through.