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m4a1mustang 10-20-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1368462)
Who knows what that means though? Are they useful ducts or for looks? Where are they routing air from? Can we retrofit?

Why would they put ducts in for looks?

My guess is they are using file photos from older models since nothing has changed on the exterior. The ducts will either draw air from the fang vents, center vent, or from underneath the car and will run directly to the caliper or the rotor for cooling.

And my guess is it will be very simple to retrofit since nothing else has changed.

Pretty simple, IMO.

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 10:06 AM

Yeah, post up pics if you get them. Curious to see what they went with and how it works.

m4a1mustang 10-20-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1368467)
Nah I totally understand what ya mean, and I want to see what they look like as well, as a matter of fact I think I will be heading over to my local Nissan dealer on my day off tomorrow and see if I can snag the keys to a 2012. I'll try and snap some pics if I find anything. But it does say "purpose built" so I'm guessing its not for looks.

Pics would be great. :tup:

b1adesofcha0s 10-20-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1368475)
Pics would be great. :tup:

:iagree:

red6spd 10-20-2011 10:12 AM

Yea I'll see what I can do. I figure if you cut the wheel you should be able to see them??

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1368471)
Why would they put ducts in for looks?

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Dunno....
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QvGsGlDO8iR-0w


Hell, even the current fangs are fake vents.


My comment was more in terms of "functional" vents that aren't. I wanna know if they are set up to actually push air on the brakes.

FuszNissan 10-20-2011 10:27 AM

I've looked at the tech line diagrams and I see the oil cooler, but I don't see any duct work for brake cooling. But that's not to say they didn't put some slits in the front side fangs to deflect air to the brakes.

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 10:48 AM

The panda has spoken

KaienZ34 10-20-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1368462)
Who knows what that means though? Are they useful ducts or for looks? Where are they routing air from? Can we retrofit?



Me hopes so hhahahahah

the_student 10-20-2011 11:58 AM

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m4a1mustang 10-20-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1368522)
Dunno....
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QvGsGlDO8iR-0w


Hell, even the current fangs are fake vents.


My comment was more in terms of "functional" vents that aren't. I wanna know if they are set up to actually push air on the brakes.

Gotcha. I would hope so.

Red__Zed 10-20-2011 12:56 PM

Yeah, me too. I'm just not assuming they are good until there is evidence.

RoshDawg 10-20-2011 02:21 PM

I'm shocked to why there hasn't been after market air ducts made yet.. I'll be picking up a pair of these ducts in seconds

m4a1mustang 10-20-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 1369083)
I'm shocked to why there hasn't been after market air ducts made yet.. I'll be picking up a pair of these ducts in seconds

I'm sure it is demand. The people that really need serious track cooling are the guys that track their 370s frequently, and there really aren't that many out there. Probably not enough to justify development costs for any of the aftermarket companies only to sell a few dozen units at best. You're better off fabricating your own cooling ducts, which shouldn't be too difficult as you can buy generic kits out there and put them together yourself.

If NISSAN adds some real cooling to the brakes and we can get part #s and order the pieces, that would be awesome.

kenchan 10-20-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1369112)
I am a trader by profession.

I am not a traitor. Plus you know eventually I am going to pick up a used roadster so leave me alone! :bowrofl:

the dealer's open for couple more hours. wat are you waiting for? :icon17:

m4a1mustang 10-20-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1369114)
the dealer's open for couple more hours. wat are you waiting for? :icon17:

$30k cash to fall out of the sky. :bowrofl:

kenchan 10-20-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1369115)
$30k cash to fall out of the sky. :bowrofl:

hahaha. :D

m4a1mustang 10-20-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1369163)
hahaha. :D

It would be great, though. Depending on how much they are going for in another year or two I might get one. I have always wanted a roadster and for whatever reason I like the Z with the top off. It is either that or an S2K.

FL 4Motion 10-20-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1369094)
I'm sure it is demand. The people that really need serious track cooling are the guys that track their 370s frequently, and there really aren't that many out there. Probably not enough to justify development costs for any of the aftermarket companies only to sell a few dozen units at best. You're better off fabricating your own cooling ducts, which shouldn't be too difficult as you can buy generic kits out there and put them together yourself.

If NISSAN adds some real cooling to the brakes and we can get part #s and order the pieces, that would be awesome.

Fvck yeah it would be!:tup:

SSjVegita 10-20-2011 06:13 PM

subscribeeeeeeeed, i want those ducts and cooler dammit

Red__Zed 10-23-2011 12:51 PM

any of you guys that were checking ever find any duct info?

KaienZ34 10-23-2011 12:58 PM

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any of you guys that were checking ever find any duck info?


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b1adesofcha0s 10-23-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1372790)
Only this.

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Damn I should have waited for the 2012's. Would have loved to have gotten one of those with my Z. :(

RoshDawg 10-23-2011 05:16 PM

Haha^^
Someone please go interrogate a Nissan executive for info on ducts and coolers. And I HIGHLY doubt getting the Nissan cooler will void warrenty if installed by Nissan. Just a matter of time.

Red__Zed 10-23-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 1373117)
Haha^^
Someone please go interrogate a Nissan executive for info on ducts and coolers. And I HIGHLY doubt getting the Nissan cooler will void warrenty if installed by Nissan. Just a matter of time.

void is too strong of a word, but yes, it creates warranty concerns. nissan will be more than happy to tell you this if you call them.

ZForce 10-24-2011 11:58 PM

To Air cool OR Not to Air cool, that is the question....

Subscribed...thanks Red and wstar for your insight. Good thread, very educational, even though I can only keep pace some of the time. That's ok, kenchan, Steve and onzedge will translate. I heard that if one sub woofer is good then two are better. I want to see wstar fit the water oil cooler along with the 19 row air oil cooler. I still can not find the thing-ma-jig and do-hickey in the FSM...haha...onzedege.

ImportConvert 10-25-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1375528)
To Air cool OR Not to Air cool, that is the question....

Subscribed...thanks Red and wstar for your insight. Good thread, very educational, even though I can only keep pace some of the time. That's ok, kenchan, Steve and onzedge will translate. I heard that if one sub woofer is good then two are better. I want to see wstar fit the water oil cooler along with the 19 row air oil cooler. I still can not find the thing-ma-jig and do-hickey in the FSM...haha...onzedege.

Oil temperatures are one of those things where that is not the case. You will end up tooling around town with the oil at 140-160* causing unnecessary wear, or you will end up tooling around with your oil-cooler's thermostatic plate closed 90% of the time.

Unless Nissan's oil-cooler is just total crap, which by the look of it, I really don't think is going to be the case.

wstar 10-25-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1375552)
Oil temperatures are one of those things where that is not the case. You will end up tooling around town with the oil at 140-160* causing unnecessary wear, or you will end up tooling around with your oil-cooler's thermostatic plate closed 90% of the time.

Unless Nissan's oil-cooler is just total crap, which by the look of it, I really don't think is going to be the case.

Except your coolant is typically high (-ish, depending on conditions, but generally 195F+ even for mild driving in mild weather), so it can't cool the oil down any lower than that. If anything, it will help warm the oil up to that range faster and it keep it more stable. The questionable part about running dual (air and water) coolers both off of filter adapters is whether the stacked adapters pose a failure risk.

Red__Zed 10-25-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1375552)
Oil temperatures are one of those things where that is not the case. You will end up tooling around town with the oil at 140-160* causing unnecessary wear, or you will end up tooling around with your oil-cooler's thermostatic plate closed 90% of the time.

Unless Nissan's oil-cooler is just total crap, which by the look of it, I really don't think is going to be the case.

World's coolest coolant?

Red__Zed 10-25-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1375823)
Except your coolant is typically high (-ish, depending on conditions, but generally 195F+ even for mild driving in mild weather), so it can't cool the oil down any lower than that. If anything, it will help warm the oil up to that range faster and it keep it more stable. The questionable part about running dual (air and water) coolers both off of filter adapters is whether the stacked adapters pose a failure risk.

Pls stop typing my thoughts faster than me:p


Kthxbai

Cmike2780 10-25-2011 09:17 AM

Still nothing about the brake ducting? Not that I need it. Just really curious how they fixed it.

KaienZ34 10-25-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1375890)
Still nothing about the brake ducting? Not that I need it. Just really curious how they fixed it.


You know you want it.:stirthepot:

gaveup 10-25-2011 10:32 AM

7 pages of not so useful information about this oil cooler? This makes me sad.

Red__Zed 10-25-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1375890)
Still nothing about the brake ducting? Not that I need it. Just really curious how they fixed it.

Nissan dealer here tells me there's no real ducting coming....on the other hand, they don't have any 2012s in for a while, so I don't exactly trust them.

KaienZ34 10-25-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1376029)
Nissan dealer here tells me there's no real ducting coming....on the other hand, they don't have any 2012s in for a while, so I don't exactly trust them.


Ya really, when i went order mine in early jan 09 they didn't even know the 370 was coming out. They said wait you want to order a 350? We have a few on the lot now. :facepalm:

ImportConvert 10-25-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1376041)
Ya really, when i went order mine in early jan 09 they didn't even know the 370 was coming out. They said wait you want to order a 350? We have a few on the lot now. :facepalm:

Girl at the dealership I went to this morning kept urging me toward the used 350Z on their lot because it was a manual. Then she kept saying I could have an '11 with the NAV/M6/Touring/Sport. Sometimes you just cannot get through to people.

2012. Touring. NAV. Manual. Sport Package. Coupe.

It's an amazingly simple concept. It took the manager to grasp it.

Streetlife 10-25-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1376636)
Girl at the dealership I went to this morning kept urging me toward the used 350Z on their lot because it was a manual. Then she kept saying I could have an '11 with the NAV/M6/Touring/Sport. Sometimes you just cannot get through to people.

2012. Touring. NAV. Manual. Sport Package. Coupe.

It's an amazingly simple concept. It took the manager to grasp it.

Same thing happened to me when i ordered my 2012. I kept hearing the 2012 will be the same exact car no changes, glad i waited. Now i'm patiently waiting for delivery. Plus, i refused to by a 370z that was touched by anyone besides me, considering i love detailing. :happydance:

sixpax 01-07-2012 04:07 AM

....so I read this whole 19 page epic novel, only to get to the end to see it died with no answers a few months ago. FML.

m4a1mustang 01-07-2012 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sixpax (Post 1479972)
....so I read this whole 19 page epic novel, only to get to the end to see it died with no answers a few months ago. FML.

:rofl2:

UNKNOWN_370 01-07-2012 09:17 AM

Fortunately, my experience in DFW is they all know its a 370z. What they don't know and it really pisses me off. They call the sport appearance pkg the sport pkg and try to pretend the apearance pkg has sport pkg features. Or they show you a sport package and call it touring but its a base sport and then move you over to another car that has leather and call it their touring model with the leather pkg. Lmfao. I don't know if they are playing stupid to warrant more cash for the cars on ignorant people or if they are really that dumb? Maybe they just like playing with packages?:ugh2:


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