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Zedx 10-18-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1364411)
Noticed several members that have already picked up 2012 models, but we still have no cooler details--anyone able to snap pics yet?

let me know what they say.. I have the same issue... do you have HFC"S ?

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 01:50 PM

I'm hoping for an a:w cooler cuz it's good for the car....Most cars run it.

theDreamer 10-18-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1365017)
After it's built it's all just dead time if you want to say it that way. Sitting on a boat for a few weeks, sitting in customs for a week, sitting on a train for a few days, sitting in a hub parking lot for a few more days, sitting on a truck for a couple days, then sitting in your dealer's lot until you pick it up.

I'm just trying to figure out how long all this stuff takes, from how many they build a day (or week or what ever), from the build date to actual delivery. It may take 2 days to build one as you say, but because of the way a production line works, that really doesn't tell us anything. It probably takes GM 2 days to build a single Chevy 1500 from start to finish, but off the line they crank out more than one a minute.

With less than 10,000 Z's sold per year, we know Nissan is not cranking out this car out like that. Kicking *** they are probably making 200 a week, tops. This is pure speculation on my part. That's why I'm trying to figure it out, so I know and don't have to speculate.

:cool:

The build time has always been 2-3 months, normal order:
Order
Wait a few weeks and then your car begin productions
Build time is probably a week or to, remember there are inspections and other onsite requirements before it ships out.
2 weeks on a boat for shipping
Customs is a week (was for mine)
Prep in the states, either LA or Tenn
Transit time
Delivery to dealership

The major wait period is the building as even though your order is placed it might be a few weeks before they even start your cars production, especially if the dealership just placed its order. Transit times vary because they wait for full loads before shipping, be on rail, 18 wheeler, etc.

semtex 10-18-2011 01:57 PM

http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...oil-cooler.jpg

RoshDawg 10-18-2011 01:59 PM

I'm really excited for brake ducts. Hopefully the cooler will just be an extension to the stock one to save money

m4a1mustang 10-18-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 1365052)
I'm really excited for brake ducts. Hopefully the cooler will just be an extension to the stock one to save money

:iagree:

Brake ducting will be awesome.

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 1365052)
I'm really excited for brake ducts. Hopefully the cooler will just be an extension to the stock one to save money

I wish he'd post the scan of the page....

Alchemy 10-18-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1365048)

Lol I love that guy! Gotta respect a guy that dont give 2 sh!ts what his hair looks like :roflpuke2:

wstar 10-18-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 1365052)
I'm really excited for brake ducts. Hopefully the cooler will just be an extension to the stock one to save money

There is no "stock one" on the 2009-2011 models. The oil just circulates in the engine, and the coolant circulates in other passageways in the engine, and the heat transfers through the engine block. My money's still on a very minimalistic oil:water cooler interface, at the oil filter.

Bonzo 10-18-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1365042)
The build time has always been 2-3 months, normal order:
Order
Wait a few weeks and then your car begin productions
Build time is probably a week or to, remember there are inspections and other onsite requirements before it ships out.
2 weeks on a boat for shipping
Customs is a week (was for mine)
Prep in the states, either LA or Tenn
Transit time
Delivery to dealership

The major wait period is the building as even though your order is placed it might be a few weeks before they even start your cars production, especially if the dealership just placed its order. Transit times vary because they wait for full loads before shipping, be on rail, 18 wheeler, etc.

Thanks for the insight on the regular order.

The thing is, if you check out one of my original threads, this car basically got put on production hold this year due to the tsunami. Since the Z and the GTR are Nissan's lowest priority, they got shoved to the back burner. No dealer I know of in all of Southwest Ohio has gotten an actual Nissan car allocation since way back in March / April. No direct special orders (which not all dealers know about) were taken from Nissan in June or July while they were playing catch up from the shut down and the cars they lost. After calling Nissan distribution every week all summer, my dealer was finally able to special order my car in late August, when Nissan knew when 2012 production would start in September.

So any other time I'd say you were absolutely correct. But the tsunami changed the normal way of things and it's only just now coming back around.

If 2012's are delivering now, and they only started production in September, that's less than 2-3 months, that's 1 to 1-1/2 months, tops.

I just like investigating. I'd also like to know if my car will be coming sooner due to some things going on in my life right now. This may sound crazy but sooner isn't going to make thing easier scheduling wise.

Thanks again --- Bonzo

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1365048)

:icon18:

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 02:23 PM

In for pics..

FuszNissan 10-18-2011 02:28 PM

I know the answer to your cooler question...:stirthepot:

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 1365094)
I know the answer to your cooler question...:stirthepot:

Why do I need to ride on your golf cart to find the answer?

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 02:33 PM

I have a dealer in Ohio going out to hopefully take some pics for us.. cross your fingers..

Sibze 10-18-2011 02:43 PM

This thread makes me lol

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 02:43 PM

If Jomer beats the other dealer to the punch, he shall receive multiple reps though.. :tiphat:

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 03:09 PM

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Pics of OEM Nissan water-to-oil coolers from the Nissan Armada and the Nissan Murano. We are virtually guaranteed to get something like this, but I am still waiting on the official 2012 370Z oil cooler pics from the dealer.

scottIN 10-18-2011 03:21 PM

Mods-Can we just get a sub-forum on the 2012 oil cooler? LOL

UNKNOWN_370 10-18-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1364431)
Hmm, will be interesting to see how the retrofit options work out for the factory oil:water and brake cooling ducts.

I checked on that... Nissan is already saying no retrofit on the previous Z. They said they changed the plumbing on the Z so they won't retrofit the part. As for adding your own they didn't mention.

I'm getting the GTM oil cooler anyway but for those that were hoping for a nissan retrofit? Forget about. I think they are afraid that if they retrofit? They will have to warranty the product and don't want to. I see nissan going the toyota route with hybrids and the Z being electric and the END OF NISMO. The poser car of tomorrow. Lol. Anyway, get your Z's while they still have a name.

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 03:31 PM

By plumbing, they probably mean the coolant lines. I am pretty sure we can make it work, despite that. I seriously doubt that Nissan changed internal plumbing on the block to avoid retrofits.

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 03:34 PM

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Ladies and gentleman, below I give you... the 2012 Nissan 370Z OEM water-to-oil cooler. Sorry for the dark picture, but this is from a dealer who was nice enough to put a 2012 Z on the lift and snap the pic.

2012 Nissan Z Oil Cooler part #21300-SS370

2012 Nissan Z Chassis Brake Cooling Kit part #E4420-1EA00

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1365253)
I checked on that... Nissan is already saying no retrofit on the previous Z. They said they changed the plumbing on the Z so they won't retrofit the part. As for adding your own they didn't mention.

I'm getting the GTM oil cooler anyway but for those that were hoping for a nissan retrofit? Forget about. I think they are afraid that if they retrofit? They will have to warranty the product and don't want to. I see nissan going the toyota route with hybrids and the Z being electric and the END OF NISMO. The poser car of tomorrow. Lol. Anyway, get your Z's while they still have a name.

Who at Nissan did you talk to?

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by '10Anamoly (Post 1365262)
Ladies and gentleman, below I give you... the 2012 Nissan 370Z OEM water-to-oil cooler. Sorry for the dark picture, but this is from a dealer who was nice enough to put a 2012 Z on the lift and snap the pic.

2012 Nissan Z Oil Cooler part #21300-SS370

2012 Nissan Z Chassis Brake Cooling Kit part #E4420-1EA00

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Repped for coming thru!

onzedge 10-18-2011 03:39 PM

Rep for snagging the picture. Does this look kind of cheesy though?

theDreamer 10-18-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1365276)
Rep for snagging the picture. Does this look kind of cheesy though?

Cheap, easily fixed/repairable and they get to say the words 'oil cooler.'

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1365276)
Rep for snagging the picture. Does this look kind of cheesy though?

Plus side is you are not running oil all over the place. That's a bad idea on a street car.

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 03:42 PM

Thanks for the reps! It's the same solution they use on the majority of cars that need oil cooling so I guess we should not be surprised. I believe most of the larger vehicles in their fleet have similar items. I also did not want my oil running all around the place so I am glad to have another option to explore.

Deadman 10-18-2011 03:44 PM

How well does it work now ? Lol

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 03:46 PM

Our cooling system is pretty robust, thermostat opens at 180*F, cooling fans kick on at 212*F and off around 200*F, so the water temp control should contribute to cooling the oil some. Nothing like an aftermarket air cooling setup, but I doubt they would take the time to add it and not test to make sure it did something.

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadman (Post 1365290)
How well does it work now ? Lol

Now we wait for track results.

b1adesofcha0s 10-18-2011 03:56 PM

Repped for getting the pic. Wonder how well this will work and hoping it can be retrofitted easily. Hoping I can get this for cheap and hold off on getting an aftermarket oil cooler so I can at least get some track time.

wstar 10-18-2011 04:00 PM

I'll probably give it a shot (combined with my 19-row setrab + mocal thermo plate) as soon as I can verify the correct water plumbing and the part is available through Nissan parts depts.

onzedge 10-18-2011 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1365253)
I checked on that... Nissan is already saying no retrofit on the previous Z. They said they changed the plumbing on the Z so they won't retrofit the part. As for adding your own they didn't mention.

I'm getting the GTM oil cooler anyway but for those that were hoping for a nissan retrofit? Forget about. I think they are afraid that if they retrofit? They will have to warranty the product and don't want to. I see nissan going the toyota route with hybrids and the Z being electric and the END OF NISMO. The poser car of tomorrow. Lol. Anyway, get your Z's while they still have a name.

I have been running the GTM oil cooler for a year and a half and I am quite pleased with it -- for what it is worth.

'10Anamoly 10-18-2011 04:05 PM

Ignore the part number for the brake cooling parts, the guy misunderstood me and looked up the chassis brace kit (Nismo).

kenchan 10-18-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1365280)
Cheap, easily fixed/repairable and they get to say the words 'oil cooler.'

kinda like hyundai saying BlueTooth on their cars yet the profile only works on older phones. :icon17:

b1adesofcha0s 10-18-2011 04:06 PM

I tried searching for the oil cooler part # and it was giving me the Nismo oil cooler that is already available for ~$800.

onzedge 10-18-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by '10Anamoly (Post 1365335)
Ignore the part number for the brake cooling parts, the guy misunderstood me and looked up the chassis brace kit (Nismo).

Did you get any pics of the brake ducting?

onzedge 10-18-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1365336)
kinda like hyundai saying BlueTooth on their cars yet the profile only works on older phones. :icon17:

:icon18:

Red__Zed 10-18-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1365338)
I tried searching for the oil cooler part # and it was giving me the Nismo oil cooler that is already available for ~$800.

Yeah. It's the wrong PN


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