Must read now 370 vs Camaro.. !!

shabarivas · 07-06-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tstrick9

The union didnt hustle anybody, what they got was bargained for and agreed to by highly compensated executives. It is as if some people think that these labor contracts were just dropped from above and in final form. Additionally, the main escalator of expenses for the US car manufactures is and has been health care, for actives and retirees, whereas both Japanese and German companies are relieved of large portions of similar obligations by their respective governments...so not really a level playing field from that perspective.

No.. but its the fact that American unions make the companies pay for the retired folk in the form of pensions and the like - so when a whole bunch of old dudes want their cash for sitting at home and farting up a storm - the factories start closing down - classic American negligence which turned around to shoot the companies in their own faces.

tstrick9 · 07-06-2009, 06:58 PM

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No.. but its the fact that American unions make the companies pay for the retired folk in the form of pensions and the like - so when a whole bunch of old dudes want their cash for sitting at home and farting up a storm - the factories start closing down - classic American negligence which turned around to shoot the companies in their own faces.

The union doesnt make the car companies do anything. Classic American negligence for the retired execs, who definitely still get their checks, to leave behind a mess that was created to return short term gains to satisfy all the shareholders. Now those shareholders are left with nothing, the union has to take a stake in lieu of the benefits you have a problem with, and the US is stuck with camaros made in canada of mexican components. But the only people you have a issue with are the ones who went to work everyday.

355890 · 07-06-2009, 07:21 PM

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But the only people you have a issue with are the ones who went to work everyday.

Yes they did .... at 30 bucks an hour + benefits to attach the screw to an object that the robotic arm had already put into place.

The only fault that I can render to any automotive CEO " what are you thinking agreeing to contract's like this in the first place".

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