New Car and Driver review of the 370z... oil temp fail!

nuTinmuch · 09-10-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

I see WAY more boy racers, oh sorry I mean Evo's on the street than 370's. Though I have never tracked either I would have to say the Z is a better track car. I believe it bested the Evo on the Top Gear track, although Im not sure what version of Evo was used. If you wanna bad mouth the 370 join an Evo forum and do it there.

There are a lot of Evos in North Jersey.

/shrug

I'd still get one, though.

edit: this might be a way out there thought, but I think the VDC is so restrictive because of how many fatalities the 350 had/has. I can't imagine that is good for business.

Alchemy · 09-10-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

There are a lot of Evos in North Jersey.

/shrug

I'd still get one, though.

edit: this might be a way out there thought, but I think the VDC is so restrictive because of how many fatalities the 350 had/has. I can't imagine that is good for business.

I never see 370's. Plenty of Evo's.

cossie1600 · 09-10-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

edit: this might be a way out there thought, but I think the VDC is so restrictive because of how many fatalities the 350 had/has. I can't imagine that is good for business.

Possible, but not sure 370 is doing much better. Too many people driving like an a-hole in it.

nuTinmuch · 09-10-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Possible, but not sure 370 is doing much better. Too many people driving like an a-hole in it.

Yeah, but people drive like idiots in -every- car, not just a sports car -- and not just a 370z.

evoAXE · 07-25-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

I see WAY more boy racers, oh sorry I mean Evo's on the street than 370's. Though I have never tracked either I would have to say the Z is a better track car. I believe it bested the Evo on the Top Gear track, although Im not sure what version of Evo was used. If you wanna bad mouth the 370 join an Evo forum and do it there.

Say what? Still nothing davey?

Davey · 07-25-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by evoAXE

Say what? Still nothing davey?

brian0128 · 09-10-2011, 02:38 PM

I agree with the article overall. One of the reasons I just sold my high mileage Z was because of the brake fade and the engine going in to limp mode during spirited weekend drives or during prolonged high speed use. Driving from Vegas to Texas I hit limp mode multiple times and had to slow down and let the car cool down. Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to buy another Z but this time I'll put an oil cooler on the car within the first week. The only other problem that I've had with the Z that they didn't cover was the clutch fluid overheating and the pedal sticking to the floor. I even switched over to MOTUL fluid but on a few of my weekend drives I'd have the pedal stick to the floor.

BrianMSmith · 09-10-2011, 04:23 PM

Journo opinions are just opinions. The McClaren blows away the 458 in every measure, yet all the journos rate the 458. It is subjective. You like what you like, it's not important that your car "wins" in somebody elses mind, especially the dumb ones. A mustang is a car for the proletariat. That's why they sell so many. Our cars are for connisseurs.

The 370Z is not a track car. Don't take it there without a brake fluid change to racing, and adding an oil cooler. Personally, I am glade my car was $1000 cheaper and did not have the oil cooler.

Have fun.

CarsRfun · 09-10-2011, 05:05 PM

My buddy owns a base cherry 370z, Ive driven it, it's a very nice car, ultra sporty and absolutely gorgeous!
I just wonder if this lack of an oil cooler thing is going to affect: long term engine reliability/failure issues, resale values, confidence in the product. In the short run, the damage is mostly that people are wondering "what if" ? One of the reasons I sold my RX8 is due to long term reliability questions...I have to wonder why Nissan, who is known for quality and reliability, would eliminate the oil cooler and go with lesser quality brakes? That seems very foolish. Pennywise in the short term but costly in the long run.

red6spd · 09-10-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CarsRfun

My buddy owns a base cherry 370z, Ive driven it, it's a very nice car, ultra sporty and absolutely gorgeous!
I just wonder if this lack of an oil cooler thing is going to affect: long term engine reliability/failure issues, resale values, confidence in the product. In the short run, the damage is mostly that people are wondering "what if" ? One of the reasons I sold my RX8 is due to long term reliability questions...I have to wonder why Nissan, who is known for quality and reliability, would eliminate the oil cooler and go with lesser quality brakes? That seems very foolish. Pennywise in the short term but costly in the long run.

Thats what Limp Mode is there for. Nissan made the car go in Limp Mode so not to damage the engine.

ImportConvert · 09-10-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CarsRfun

My buddy owns a base cherry 370z, Ive driven it, it's a very nice car, ultra sporty and absolutely gorgeous!
I just wonder if this lack of an oil cooler thing is going to affect: long term engine reliability/failure issues, resale values, confidence in the product. In the short run, the damage is mostly that people are wondering "what if" ? One of the reasons I sold my RX8 is due to long term reliability questions...I have to wonder why Nissan, who is known for quality and reliability, would eliminate the oil cooler and go with lesser quality brakes? That seems very foolish. Pennywise in the short term but costly in the long run.

Corvette did it with the seats.
Viper did it with the "small parts"

If you want a car that "has it all", you will have to spend a lot more $$. The Porsche Cayman S is a well-balanced car, but it's way slower than a 'vette, and similar to the 370Z--for nearly twice the price. However, it is "the full package". Premium everything, and very very well executed.

Now, to get up to Z06 performance in a similar car, you will have to go up to the Porsche GT3, etc. etc. and you will spend a TON! more money.

It's all about what you want, and what you can afford. Don't like the 370Z's short-comings? I would say your next stop is at the $60K point with a Cayman S. You will get very similar performance but a better "over-all" package.

Does this make sense, or am I butchering my thought-conveyance?

Snakes709 · 09-10-2011, 05:40 PM

When i was talking about the VDC, i wasnt talking about it on the track. I not only had it turned off, i had the harness pulled out. I'm talking about DD, mainly in the winter. The VDC screwed me up so many times i got sick of it. You can barely get moving with it on. It would actualy make me feel like im loosing control in a turn, even on ice. I can take a turn normally or even with my *** end sliding out and be in control 100%, but the second VDC kicks in, it sends the car all over the place. As where as the Evo's systems it doesnt make huge/noticeable corrections. Yes i know its AWD, but i feel more safe if i know whats going to happen and what i can expect. The VDC system was like "oh ****! gotta do this NOW!!" the Evo's system is like "ok sweet, the guy is having issues, lets help him out abit"

Now for the track since the system in the Evo is alot more advance i went with traction control off (1 push of the button) and left the rest of the systems on. Next time when i feel more comfortable ill turn all the systems off (hold for 3 secs) just to see how the car handles when it doesnt have the AYC and all that stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy

I see WAY more boy racers, oh sorry I mean Evo's on the street than 370's. Though I have never tracked either I would have to say the Z is a better track car. I believe it bested the Evo on the Top Gear track, although Im not sure what version of Evo was used. If you wanna bad mouth the 370 join an Evo forum and do it there.

And yet your point is invalid to me. You never tracked either cars and i doubt you owned a evo either. So until you have taken both cars on the track, your posts are useless to me, kbye

ImportConvert · 09-10-2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakes709

When i was talking about the VDC, i wasnt talking about it on the track. I not only had it turned off, i had the harness pulled out. I'm talking about DD, mainly in the winter. The VDC screwed me up so many times i got sick of it. You can barely get moving with it on. It would actualy make me feel like im loosing control in a turn, even on ice. I can take a turn normally or even with my *** end sliding out and be in control 100%, but the second VDC kicks in, it sends the car all over the place. As where as the Evo's systems it doesnt make huge/noticeable corrections. Yes i know its AWD, but i feel more safe if i know whats going to happen and what i can expect. The VDC system was like "oh ****! gotta do this NOW!!" the Evo's system is like "ok sweet, the guy is having issues, lets help him out abit"

Now for the track since the system in the Evo is alot more advance i went with traction control off (1 push of the button) and left the rest of the systems on. Next time when i feel more comfortable ill turn all the systems off (hold for 3 secs) just to see how the car handles when it doesnt have the AYC and all that stuff.

And yet your point is invalid to me. You never tracked either cars and i doubt you owned a evo either. So until you have taken both cars on the track, your posts are useless to me, kbye

That sucks. I had thought Nissan's VDC was pretty decent from other stuff I read.

Methodical4u · 09-11-2011, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakes709

When i was talking about the VDC, i wasnt talking about it on the track. I not only had it turned off, i had the harness pulled out. I'm talking about DD, mainly in the winter. The VDC screwed me up so many times i got sick of it. You can barely get moving with it on. It would actualy make me feel like im loosing control in a turn, even on ice. I can take a turn normally or even with my *** end sliding out and be in control 100%, but the second VDC kicks in, it sends the car all over the place. As where as the Evo's systems it doesnt make huge/noticeable corrections. Yes i know its AWD, but i feel more safe if i know whats going to happen and what i can expect. The VDC system was like "oh ****! gotta do this NOW!!" the Evo's system is like "ok sweet, the guy is having issues, lets help him out abit"

Now for the track since the system in the Evo is alot more advance i went with traction control off (1 push of the button) and left the rest of the systems on. Next time when i feel more comfortable ill turn all the systems off (hold for 3 secs) just to see how the car handles when it doesnt have the AYC and all that stuff.

And yet your point is invalid to me. You never tracked either cars and i doubt you owned a evo either. So until you have taken both cars on the track, your posts are useless to me, kbye

You're an idiot... kbye!

onzedge · 09-11-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

You're an idiot... kbye!

Indeed. His spelling and grammar are atrocious as well.

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09-10-2011, 02:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
brian0128 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Crofton, MD Posts: 249 Drives: 09 370Z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 15	I agree with the article overall. One of the reasons I just sold my high mileage Z was because of the brake fade and the engine going in to limp mode during spirited weekend drives or during prolonged high speed use. Driving from Vegas to Texas I hit limp mode multiple times and had to slow down and let the car cool down. Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to buy another Z but this time I'll put an oil cooler on the car within the first week. The only other problem that I've had with the Z that they didn't cover was the clutch fluid overheating and the pedal sticking to the floor. I even switched over to MOTUL fluid but on a few of my weekend drives I'd have the pedal stick to the floor.

09-10-2011, 04:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
BrianMSmith Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: secret Posts: 267 Drives: 370Z, Ducati 748S Rep Power: 16	Journo opinions are just opinions. The McClaren blows away the 458 in every measure, yet all the journos rate the 458. It is subjective. You like what you like, it's not important that your car "wins" in somebody elses mind, especially the dumb ones. A mustang is a car for the proletariat. That's why they sell so many. Our cars are for connisseurs. The 370Z is not a track car. Don't take it there without a brake fluid change to racing, and adding an oil cooler. Personally, I am glade my car was $1000 cheaper and did not have the oil cooler. Have fun.

09-10-2011, 05:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
CarsRfun Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 38 Drives: EVO Rep Power: 14	My buddy owns a base cherry 370z, Ive driven it, it's a very nice car, ultra sporty and absolutely gorgeous! I just wonder if this lack of an oil cooler thing is going to affect: long term engine reliability/failure issues, resale values, confidence in the product. In the short run, the damage is mostly that people are wondering "what if" ? One of the reasons I sold my RX8 is due to long term reliability questions...I have to wonder why Nissan, who is known for quality and reliability, would eliminate the oil cooler and go with lesser quality brakes? That seems very foolish. Pennywise in the short term but costly in the long run.