New Car and Driver review of the 370z... oil temp fail!

BeemaaZ · 09-08-2011, 04:52 PM

mine showing 220 for the past couple of days - temp outside 90F

red6spd · 09-08-2011, 05:30 PM

I just got done reading the entire article. They had almost nothing good to say about the Miata yet it got 2nd??? LOL.

SPOHN · 09-08-2011, 06:30 PM

My car runs fine that's all I care about. Either you a true Z fan or a fake Z fan.

Red__Zed · 09-08-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

My car runs fine that's all I care about. Either you a true Z fan or a fake Z fan.

you can also be really high.

Red__Zed · 09-08-2011, 06:53 PM

that's how you get a job writing for car rags

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-08-2011, 11:54 PM

I have a lot of respect for the Evo. Its an econobox with all the right pieces and imo its a true sports car. Some of my forum brothers think that 2 seats in there car give them some kind of extra authenticity in the sports car world. It takes a more than a seat count to call out what's a sports car and what isn't.
But I will race an Evo, any day, any time and any place. I know the evo has a lot of "make me look like a great driver technology. " the Z is more about a balanced platform where modding must be done from scratch. Evo's are pre-prepped for cobb tuning to get you 180hp with $6k.
As far as who's better? Let's shut off all guidance systems and drive on the raw. The Z is no joke. You can read all the limp mode articles you want. A good track driver won't go past 255 degrees on a well maintained sparcely modified Z. Evo owners are dilusional if they think we can't hang???
I don't care if the Z needs $1250 in parts to avoid a possible limp mode? (There are plenty of us that never had this happen). Its the most balance car of the bunch. Balance is everything.

On a side note. The evo is hella fun! Gotta love the evo too.

cossie1600 · 09-09-2011, 12:10 AM

You need to lay off the kool-aid a little. The Z is partially based off of the Murano and its engine are in quite a few cars.

I am not sure if experience are needed to keep the oil temps down, just short shift if you care. A simple 500 RPM can drop the temperature a good 5-10 degree.

Car has a 53/47 balance, not sure if that is all that balance. It's still a good car, but not as perfect as you made it sound.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

the Z is more about a balanced platform where modding must be done from scratch.
As far as who's better? Let's shut off all guidance systems and drive on the raw. The Z is no joke. You can read all the limp mode articles you want. A good track driver won't go past 255 degrees on a well maintained sparcely modified Z. Evo owners are dilusional if they think we can't hang???
I don't care if the Z needs $1250 in parts to avoid a possible limp mode? (There are plenty of us that never had this happen). Its the most balance car of the bunch. Balance is everything.

Red__Zed · 09-09-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

You need to lay off the kool-aid a little. The Z is partially based off of the Murano and its engine are in quite a few cars.

I am not sure if experience are needed to keep the oil temps down, just short shift if you care. A simple 500 RPM can drop the temperature a good 5-10 degree.

Car has a 53/47 balance, not sure if that is all that balance. It's still a good car, but not as perfect as you made it sound.

Pretty much this.

Lug · 09-09-2011, 09:10 AM

The main reason the mustang handles oil temps better than the 370Z is simple. It uses 8 quart of oil. Nissan should pay attention to this. Other than price, upping the oil content is all win.

cossie1600 · 09-09-2011, 10:19 AM

the lack of oil cooler on the z doesnt help. at the same time, a simple solution would be some electrical tape to cover up the gauge. if you are not hitting limp mode, is it truly a problem or is it mainly in your head?

red6spd · 09-09-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

the lack of oil cooler on the z doesnt help. at the same time, a simple solution would be some electrical tape to cover up the gauge. if you are not hitting limp mode, is it truly a problem or is it mainly in your head?

These people dont realize what normal is. I was running 220-240 all the time, I was happy and did not understand what everyone was crying about??? I did the oil cooler because I knew I would be doing some mods and putting her on a track, not because of oil temp issues.

cossie1600 · 09-09-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

These people dont realize what normal is. I was running 220-240 all the time, I was happy and did not understand what everyone was crying about??? I did the oil cooler because I knew I would be doing some mods and putting her on a track, not because of oil temp issues.

i understand the car is relatively new, but do you guys read a lot of engine failures related to oil breaking down. there are some guys with oil consumption, but they all seem to have the problem since new.

Red__Zed · 09-09-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

i understand the car is relatively new, but do you guys read a lot of engine failures related to oil breaking down. there are some guys with oil consumption, but they all seem to have the problem since new.

A lot of the UOA's show up really crappy from people running ester...it breaks down above 240 or so, which is ironic.

Mine have been fine on gc though.

cossie1600 · 09-09-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

A lot of the UOA's show up really crappy from people running ester...it breaks down above 240 or so, which is ironic.

Mine have been fine on gc though.

That's why I run synthetic from the first oil change forward. Breakdown doesnt really occur on synthetic until 280+ anyway. On another hand, I can use more electrical tape to tape up the gauge even more.

onzedge · 09-09-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

A lot of the UOA's show up really crappy from people running ester...it breaks down above 240 or so, which is ironic.

Mine have been fine on gc though.

I got by far the WORST UOA results with Nissan Ester junk/crap/garbage. I used it on my first two oil changes (I change my oil every 3,000 miles). Its viscosity dos not hold up over time.

09-08-2011, 05:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 22	I just got done reading the entire article. They had almost nothing good to say about the Miata yet it got 2nd??? LOL. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

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SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	My car runs fine that's all I care about. Either you a true Z fan or a fake Z fan. __________________

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Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	The main reason the mustang handles oil temps better than the 370Z is simple. It uses 8 quart of oil. Nissan should pay attention to this. Other than price, upping the oil content is all win. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	I have a lot of respect for the Evo. Its an econobox with all the right pieces and imo its a true sports car. Some of my forum brothers think that 2 seats in there car give them some kind of extra authenticity in the sports car world. It takes a more than a seat count to call out what's a sports car and what isn't. But I will race an Evo, any day, any time and any place. I know the evo has a lot of "make me look like a great driver technology. " the Z is more about a balanced platform where modding must be done from scratch. Evo's are pre-prepped for cobb tuning to get you 180hp with $6k. As far as who's better? Let's shut off all guidance systems and drive on the raw. The Z is no joke. You can read all the limp mode articles you want. A good track driver won't go past 255 degrees on a well maintained sparcely modified Z. Evo owners are dilusional if they think we can't hang??? I don't care if the Z needs $1250 in parts to avoid a possible limp mode? (There are plenty of us that never had this happen). Its the most balance car of the bunch. Balance is everything. On a side note. The evo is hella fun! Gotta love the evo too.

09-09-2011, 10:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	the lack of oil cooler on the z doesnt help. at the same time, a simple solution would be some electrical tape to cover up the gauge. if you are not hitting limp mode, is it truly a problem or is it mainly in your head?