370Z Takes on Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

ClevelandCWRU

Wow, very insightful AND helpful! Please go back to whatever rock you crawled out from under that allows you to post on a car forum over 9,000 times in less than two years. And if you do decide to poke your head out again, at least take the time to realize that companies from countries all over the world now make quality, respectable automobiles.

hansoac

^ yeah KENCHAN!
hehe

Masa

I'd choose neither. You can pick up a used C6 Corvette now for about the same as a Z touring + sport and it will blow the doors off both cars.

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Econ

so why didnt you

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Masa

I'm not too sure... Too bad I can't press rewind like in Forza

In all seriousness, if time isn't an issue i would wait a couple months and see what the 2012 Genesis Coupe brings to the table. The power bump and minor updates should bring it very close if not even with the Z in terms of performance.

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daisuke149

I was looking at a used c6 myself and gen coupe and the 370z. The 370z was the most fun to drive and looked better IMO (the vette was close but only in white)

For the OP

Hyundai has targeted their gen coupe at people like you. Who want something fun and sporty but wont drive it to the limits.

Basically:

if you love the look of the 370z, get it.
if you love the interior of the 370z get it.

but if you are on edge between the 2 in those respects and then realize taht you wont drive it to the limits get the gen coupe. As easy as the z is to drive daily, the gen coupe would be easier.

Both would be good vehicles for you, but I think in this case you would have to really want the z and have no doubts about that. If you do, the gen coupe is the way to go. (keep test driving em and it may help)

Methodical4u

Corvettes are cars for geriatrics though.... also WAYYYY to many of them.

kenchan

np, op, just putting out the truth. can't handle it? there's no enthusiasm owning a hyundai (atleast not yet) other than if you got korean pride. there's absolutely nothing wrong with that! hell if i was korean i would get the gensis coupe just because it's the first 'cool' car they came out with for the US market.

but you will end up always having to explain to yourself and your friends and neighbors, etc. why you got the genesis couple. spill out the magazine spec-racer in you.

and i suppose for a 'smart shopper' aka walmart shopper that makes sense.
you get more for the money...even 2 extra seats in the back! again nothing wrong with that since one cant tell the difference.

btw, i am not saying hyundai's are crap cars, i am saying that there's no real carguy fun i can see owning a genesis coupe. to me gensis is like a corolla-s when kids really wanted to get the CivicSI but parent's wouldn't let them.

you post a new thread on the forums expect to get a variety of replies.

yah, truth hurts i know.

ClevelandCWRU

What truth? You presented no fact or informed opinion, just an absurd statement. I'm more than willing to consider your (and anyone else's for that matter) opinion, but please, drop the wacky sensationalism. It's hard to take someone like that seriously.

I very clearly can see the differences in the two cars, as I give thoughts and a somewhat detailed comparison of the two.

Was the original Z any less of a great driving sports car because no previous Z had been built? No! Did it magically get more powerful and grip the road better as more and more future generations were produced? No of course not. The history and heritage is a great story, but it's just that: a story. The 370Z is an awesome car, but it's great in its own right not because other cars Nissan/Datsun previously made shared the Z designation. Similarly, the Genesis Coupe doesn't drive any better or worse because of it's lack of a great story. Nissan certainly earned the reputation with their Z series of cars, but in the end using it to suggest the current car is superior to another car who lacks that history is simple branding and a marketing strategy. It shapes people's perception of a product, but doesn't make the product any better or worse in the objective sense. Stories are nice but not a factor for me. I'm more interested in this generation of both cars and driving them.

Regardless of which car I buy, I will never have to explain or justify my purchase with friends and family. They respect my decision making and choice to drive what I like regardless of its badge. Life after the teenage mentality of being "seen" and "acting cool" is really quite liberating. You have something to look forward to.

9Zs_Ed

Have you weighed each car's ability of dealing with snow (Cleveland snow), or do you have another vehicle to cover you those 8 months of the year?

Pelican170

Kenchan, you've been a bad bad boy! lol j/k...

kenchan

there is a reason for everything and why things are the way they are. you even considering a genesis coupe shows hyundai did their research and targeted the right demographics. college kid (still a fresh innocent undecided or confused(?) mind), can fit friends in the car, affordable, cool looking car, even RWD like a real sports car! perfect!



you guys luv me too much for real world comments.

ClevelandCWRU

A very valid point. The car is likely to see action in the winter, and I've priced extra wheels with winter tires for both. I actually live just south of the snow belt, so the snow isn't too terrible. And the crews manage to do a decent job clearing the roads most of the time, thankfully. Around here a sure sign the weather is too bad for driving (except emergencies) is when they can't keep even the streets clear.

Driving in snow isn't terrible, just have to have the right tires and be careful. 4WD, RWD, FWD, AWD, if you drive careful and are aware of road conditions you will be fine. I probably see more people with 4WD/AWD getting themselves in trouble in winter because of overconfidence, forgetting that only helps them get the car moving but does little to nothing when it comes to steering/stopping.

I've driven enough in snow that I'd be fine with either one once I get the proper tires mounted.

FromG2Z

Wow ken.... I think you got kenchan'd....

Alright alright... kidding aside, OP, you need to take it easy. This is a public forum, and a Z forum at that. Folks here will have an opinion (most likely favorable) towards our Z's. But it is just that, an OPINION. So no need to get all hissy about that. You posted a question on the forum asking which car we think is better. Folks don't really have to justify their answers to you or anyone else. Take their opinions for what they're worth. If you don't like it, don't listen to it... simple as that. There's a lot of respectable folks on this forum, ken included. I guess he just feels strongly against Hyundai's no problem with that.

For example, if someone asked me to which I like better, the Z or a Mustang or a Vette, I can say the Z, because of several concrete reasons, or I can just say, I like it better. Period. Why? Doesn't even have to be a valid reason. I just like it better... just "feels" better to me. That's not a quantifiable reason right? But in the end, it's MY reason, and I gave it to answer a question.

That is EXACTLY how I felt about the Genesis coupe after driving it, compared to the Z. It felt so generic.... hard to explain. The driver connection to the car and to the road was absent. Does anyone else know what I mean? In the Z (and I'm sure in other well built cars like BMW, etc), I really felt connected to the car..... by the steering wheel, the sound, the feel of the road on my bottom, etc.... everything. Maybe it's just me

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bluenoser

You're right, you can safely drive a RWD car in the snow with correct tires and all. However, if that had been a factor for me I wouldn't have even considered the Z or the Hyundai. I've driven in snow a lot and I just can't see how the Z would be fun in those conditions. I guess driving in snow is not supposed to be fun but a low, powerful, RWD sports car will likely make the experience a little more unpleasant even with good studded winter tires.

What about an Evo or STi? Even the regular WRX is good fun and much cheaper. It's sort of hard to compare those to the Z and Genesis Coupe I know. Not that they're better or worse, just very different cars. Personally, I find the STi a bit ugly but the performance is there. The interior is pretty cheap looking in all of those choices though. I think the Evo comes in a trim without the giant boy-racer rear wing too if that's a concern. I agree, AWD is not a substitute for sensible winter driving, but it certainly doesn't hurt.