Engine harshness

cfweber · 06-21-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

Well, I am so pissed off at Nissan! I have owned and loved a nicely modified 240Z that my friends still speak of today. I SHOULD HAVE NEVER SOLD THAT CAR!! Anyway i went to my nissan dealer ready to do a deal, I was going to trade my MX5 in on a 370Z. I love the look of the Z, i sat in it and it was nice, i liked it. I then asked the salesman to test drive one. He said of course. So off I went to test drive an auto version. Well let me tell you everything wqas good about the car except 2 things...ENGINE HARSHNESS AND QUALITY OF NOISE IT EMITS. YUK. This is/was a major turn off for me. I had driven it before and noticed to a lesser degree the noise but now that i was serious i guess i was taking more notice of it.

WTF was Nissan thinking releasing such a good sports car with such a debilitating issue. They really missed the boat on this one. I don't mind noise the MX5 is not a quiet car either but at least the engine/exhaust have a relatively pleasant noise. The Z engine noise and noise quality reminded me of my first car, a 1980 GM Holden Commodore with an auto and as 3.3 litre OHV pushrod motor that was designed in the 50's, which developed approx 60 KW.

As much as i have been looking at this car, the Z now since its 2009 intro, i have made up my mind that this noise and noise quality have turned me off the car. Really annoying cause every other aspect is ok. I must say the manual i drove in 2009 "felt better" maybe i should test drive a manaul again but wouldn't the noise be the same. Another thing i did not like was when i was going around a corner with the auto in auto mode, i did not like the feel of the transmission in the way it was delivering the power to the rear wheels it seemed loose and not too connected. The link between accelerator position, transmission shift speed and quality, to rear wheel connection seemed off.

A real shame, cause i so wanted to like this car, i guess i will still hover around this forum and see what the nest incarnation of Z may be like. In the meantime, I will keep my MX5 and possibly look into trading for a boxster or z4. I hear the engine noise in thosethings is good too and everything else is pretty much lineball with the Z.

Nissan you have pissed me off with this. Sorry guys if i have offended you, THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION. I just needed to express my dissatisfaction with Nissan dropping the ball on this one.

thank goodness we live in a golden age of automobiles.

I really bekieve Detroit has been forced to get their act together and now great cars are affordable and better than ever.

You get to pick from all the others. Let us know what you get!

nicknick · 06-21-2011, 08:33 PM

Guys i will not be posting anymore about his subject. i meant no offence but unfortunately some of you took offence. Sorry. I wanted to add a 370Z to my 2 car stable but not anymore, maybe the next model. I have now set my sights on a Z4 E85 model. Who knows maybe I wont like that either.

bloodo · 06-21-2011, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick

Guys i will not be posting anymore about his subject. i meant no offence but unfortunately some of you took offence. Sorry. I wanted to add a 370Z to my 2 car stable but not anymore, maybe the next model. I have now set my sights on a Z4 E85 model. Who knows maybe I wont like that either.

Took you long enough to decide if the 370z is the right car for you. But whatever, good luck on your next car. Please come back and let us know what you purchased.

shumby · 06-21-2011, 09:00 PM

i really find it funnty about the sound issue. The G37 guys are removing the felt liners and sound deadening to make the cars lighter and then you get the other side with the 370Z where some are trying to make it quieter and adding weight. End of the day if the road noise is an issue get a G37 simple done and dusted. Personal tast i guess but I like loud cars.

edub370 · 06-21-2011, 10:20 PM

wow the fact the we just completely crucified this guy for voicing an obvious complaint about the engines in these things says a lot. He did not create this post to flame on anyone. ALSO, as the owner of a 370Z i agree that the engine noise at high RPMs from the factory is exactly as he described "harsh". i love my z, and yes an exhaust + intake mod fixed this, but for any of you who don't think this motor is a little coarse sounding from the factory need to ride in a porsche or m3 and see exactly what he means. our cars don't sound BAD, dont get me wrong, just not as pleasurable of a sound of some other 6's.

Before i get any negative comments along the lines of "Judas" or anything like that, consider that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and should not be condemmed for expressing them.

Furthermore, i would like to say i hope you harber no hard feelings for everyone on this forum nicknick, as many are just extremely proud of there cars, and some get defensive. as to be expected.

No harsh feelings to anyone on here, i love this forum and 370's, but i think we can do a little better at politely disagreeing.

Cheers!

happytheman · 06-21-2011, 10:46 PM

Well stated.

Nicknick, I am truly sorry to hear that you have decided against the Z. Im sure that with some tuning and time you may have come to love the vehicle as much as a number of us on this community.

I am truly interested to hear what you do choose to purchase when it's all said and done. Come back and let us know, k?

06-21-2011, 09:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 45 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	i really find it funnty about the sound issue. The G37 guys are removing the felt liners and sound deadening to make the cars lighter and then you get the other side with the 370Z where some are trying to make it quieter and adding weight. End of the day if the road noise is an issue get a G37 simple done and dusted. Personal tast i guess but I like loud cars. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

06-21-2011, 10:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 21	wow the fact the we just completely crucified this guy for voicing an obvious complaint about the engines in these things says a lot. He did not create this post to flame on anyone. ALSO, as the owner of a 370Z i agree that the engine noise at high RPMs from the factory is exactly as he described "harsh". i love my z, and yes an exhaust + intake mod fixed this, but for any of you who don't think this motor is a little coarse sounding from the factory need to ride in a porsche or m3 and see exactly what he means. our cars don't sound BAD, dont get me wrong, just not as pleasurable of a sound of some other 6's. Before i get any negative comments along the lines of "Judas" or anything like that, consider that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and should not be condemmed for expressing them. Furthermore, i would like to say i hope you harber no hard feelings for everyone on this forum nicknick, as many are just extremely proud of there cars, and some get defensive. as to be expected. No harsh feelings to anyone on here, i love this forum and 370's, but i think we can do a little better at politely disagreeing. Cheers! ortiz73ca likes this. __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq Last edited by edub370; 06-21-2011 at 10:23 PM.

06-21-2011, 10:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
happytheman A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 10,737 Drives: MB 6M Tour/Sport Z34 Rep Power: 1823	Well stated. Nicknick, I am truly sorry to hear that you have decided against the Z. Im sure that with some tuning and time you may have come to love the vehicle as much as a number of us on this community. I am truly interested to hear what you do choose to purchase when it's all said and done. Come back and let us know, k? __________________ --Brantly-- *PowderCoating by Mike/Stillen/PWJDM/Shine Auto/NST* GTR/Michelin /Fast Intentions/Evo-R/Mobil 1/Motul/Z1 https://facebook.com/CentralFloridaZClub

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06-21-2011, 08:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
nicknick Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 438 Drives: Mazda mx5 2007 6sp m Rep Power: 17	Guys i will not be posting anymore about his subject. i meant no offence but unfortunately some of you took offence. Sorry. I wanted to add a 370Z to my 2 car stable but not anymore, maybe the next model. I have now set my sights on a Z4 E85 model. Who knows maybe I wont like that either.