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Kensi 06-15-2011 03:17 PM

370z Nav Package
 
Before I ask the question, just want to say I'm a long term lurker here and is almost ready to get the 370z. I know many of you will tell me to use the search button and ofcourse I have. I just want to get a few more inputs from you guys. The question is to NAV or not to NAV. I do like the OEM nav that comes with it but for the price of 3000 is it worth it. Or is it better to go with aftermarket? I know this question has been beat many times, but i just want to get more justifications for each until I decide. Thanks all!

Mt Tam I am 06-15-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kensi (Post 1171071)
Before I ask the question, just want to say I'm a long term lurker here and is almost ready to get the 370z. I know many of you will tell me to use the search button and ofcourse I have. I just want to get a few more inputs from you guys. The question is to NAV or not to NAV. I do like the OEM nav that comes with it but for the price of 3000 is it worth it. Or is it better to go with aftermarket? I know this question has been beat many times, but i just want to get more justifications for each until I decide. Thanks all!

I like the integration with the rest of the car but I can not say this is worth $3K. I only use the music box and it is excellent. I got NAV because they threw it in at $32,900.

FromG2Z 06-15-2011 03:25 PM

Decision is ultimately up to you. For me, I chose to go WITHOUT the nav, because of cost (like you said $3k is still $3k), and since I already have a couple of high end hand held navi's that I could move from vehicle to vehicle, I chose not to go with the OEM NAV.

I'm happy with my choice... I chose to use the $3k on the sport package instead ;) Don't get me wrong, the OEM NAV is NICE. I would have loved to have it... but because of cost and because of the convenience of hand held GPS's, the OEM NAV was moot to me.

Besides, there are a lot of folks who have installed aftermarket NAVs into the console... they look pretty darned sweet!

KravMaga 06-15-2011 03:30 PM

I got the NAV and like it. I like the way it integrates into the console. Probably not worth the money in itself, but it saved me the headache of choosing, buying, and then installing an aftermarket one. Now that I have it, I like it, and like it's features. But then again, my only other NAV before this were handhelds.

Blue370tt 06-15-2011 03:54 PM

You are not going to get a good answer here from this forum. I have it and think its great. No matter what is said by others there is no DOWNSIDE to the OEM Nav unit. It is well integrated and looks good.

If you can afford it, get it. It is expensive compared to portable GPS's but.......A portable GPS wont help the value of the car.

If you notice....the guy who said he did not want it.....has a base 370. My opinion is that the CHEAP guys....with little or NO money....will say its not worth it. These are also the same guys who have Ventus V12 tires on their cars and think they are good.....I have Advan Neovas and think think the V12's are cheap junk.

FromG2Z 06-15-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 1171225)
My opinion is that the CHEAP guys....with little or NO money....will say its not worth it.


Whoa whoa whoa buddy.... Take it easy there bro. I think you're way off base in your comments there, sir. Just because I opted NOT to get the navi option means I'm "cheap" and have "little or NO money"??????????

You serious?

If I choose to spend my money elsewhere on other things that I deem more valuable, maybe not even Z related, that means I am CHEAP and have NO MONEY? LOL. $3k is $3k is $3k.

Dude, you crack me up. I'll let you keep thinking that. Don't mind the fact that I paid for my Z up front.

What a moronic post.

Not only that, it's downright insulting to those people (not only on this forum) who really did NOT have the $$$ to spend to get the Nav option. Why would you even put them down like that?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 1171225)
A portable GPS wont help the value of the car.

Nor will it hurt it. If you buy a vehicle with the Nav option, you have already put it in the extra $$$ to get it in the first place, where as those folks who did not get the nav option, did not spend the extra $$$. That's what you call a "sunk" cost.

True, a nav equipped vehicle may be worth more at value than a non-nav equipped vehicle, but at initial purchase, the nav-equipped vehicle cost more in the first place. So your statement is null.

Sometimes, folks are so eager to post without thinking. Spend a little time thinking about what you post... it will put you in a better light and give you more credibility.

Reminds me of a saying: "It is better to be silent and be thought of a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

mcphelps 06-15-2011 04:08 PM

I use it mostly for it's other features, more than the actual GPS feature itself. It's great for navigating through music folders, climate controls status, phonebooks, fuel economy graphs, etc. Plus, the clock keeps better time than the dash clock. It's a lot more than just maps.

Blue370tt 06-15-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1171254)
Whoa whoa whoa buddy.... Take it easy there bro. I think you're way off base in your comments there, sir. Just because I opted NOT to get the navi option means I'm "cheap" and have "little or NO money"??????????

You serious?

If I choose to spend my money elsewhere on other things that I deem more valuable, maybe not even Z related, that means I am CHEAP and have NO MONEY? LOL. $3k is $3k is $3k.

Dude, you crack me up. I'll let you keep thinking that. Don't mind the fact that I paid for my Z up front.

What a moronic post.

Not only that, it's downright insulting to those people (not only on this forum) who really did NOT have the $$$ to spend to get the Nav option. Why would you even put them down like that?




Nor will it hurt it. If you buy a vehicle with the Nav option, you have already put it in the extra $$$ to get it in the first place, where as those folks who did not get the nav option, did not spend the extra $$$. That's what you call a "sunk" cost.

True, a nav equipped vehicle may be worth more at value than a non-nav equipped vehicle, but at initial purchase, the nav-equipped vehicle cost more in the first place. So your statement is null.

Sometimes, folks are so eager to post without thinking. Spend a little time thinking about what you post... it will put you in a better light and give you more credibility.

For the RECORD...I also paid cash for my car AND the $20,000 in upgrades. I dont agree with your thoughts on the Nav as MOST if not ALL finance or lease these cars and $3000 will make very little difference in the monthly payment.

I ALWAYS THINK FIRST and still think they are CHEAP!

Roadster4Us 06-15-2011 04:25 PM

I wasn't going to buy my Z without one. I knew I wanted a touring sport and wasn't going to put a handheld in the car and had no interest in installing an aftermarket system. It is a very nice looking unit, well integrated and performs very well. If you want nav and you can afford it I would highly recommend it. Its definitely not cheap but I think it is well worth it. Hope this helps.

Greg

FromG2Z 06-15-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 1171346)
For the RECORD...I also paid cash for my car AND the $20,000 in upgrades. I dont agree with your thoughts on the Nav as MOST if not ALL finance or lease these cars and $3000 will make very little difference in the monthly payment.

I ALWAYS THINK FIRST and still think they are CHEAP!


Good for you that you paid cash AND the $20k in upgrades. Wonderful. Great.

In the end, that's fine if you think that way, but the way you come off, some folks (including myself) may/will find you with your nose way up in the air. Just show a little more class when you speak, and you'll be fine.

theDreamer 06-15-2011 04:28 PM

I did not get Nav because I had to get the touring package which I did not need.
I am ripping my seats out for better ones, found a better aftermarket Nav and so I opted not to get it and saving the cash for other things.

Blue370tt 06-15-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1171381)
Good for you that you paid cash AND the $20k in upgrades. Wonderful. Great.

In the end, that's fine if you think that way, but the way you come off, some folks (including myself) may/will find you with your nose way up in the air. Just show a little more class when you speak, and you'll be fine.

Thanks DAD.....

fullmonty 06-15-2011 04:45 PM

I bought mine without, yes without so obviously I must be cheap or broke. However I opted to go without it because I had Nav in my truck which never got used. But now I wish I did get it even simply for the fact it looks nice. In the end I'm gonna have to spend the same amount on a aftermarket unit.

shadoquad 06-15-2011 04:52 PM

I bought mine without nav because I didn't want it. I don't use nav. I use that cubby constantly, though.

But if you plan to get nav, if you really like nav systems, then why not get the Nissan Nav option?

007MI6 06-15-2011 04:58 PM

I got mine WITH NAV for many reasons, but mainly these. I LOVE:leghump: the integration of the factory installed, over any aftermarket options. :thumbsdown: None of which, in my opinion, look good once installed. Integration, Integration, Integration! I know people will argue about the quality, but for my means it is excellent. And just like real estate...Location, Location, Location! And in my opinion you can't beat the location of the factory unit. :twocents:

Notice the emphasis that this is just my honest opinion. :p

wilsonp 06-15-2011 06:11 PM

I think the additional features over aftermarket is a good reason to have it - touchscreen iPod interface, touchscreen bluetooth phone interface, nice status display of range, climate control settings, audio settings, convenience settings, fuel mileage record, Maintenance reminders, integrated in a good position for easy viewing, backup camera included in 2011 with Nav, XM Satellite receiver is included.

Drex 06-15-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 1171346)
For the RECORD...I also paid cash for my car AND the $20,000 in upgrades. I dont agree with your thoughts on the Nav as MOST if not ALL finance or lease these cars and $3000 will make very little difference in the monthly payment.

I ALWAYS THINK FIRST and still think they are CHEAP!

with all you spent, for another $10-20k you couldve gotten a GTR. cheapass. :stirthepot:

bluelion 06-16-2011 08:20 AM

we, (wife and i), did not get the NAV/touring package, and honestly we wish we did after having the nav/leather package in the maxima. we use the music box a lot. every now and then we use the nav and it's nice to know we have it....i wish we had the nav in the Z for the integration as others have stated.

Econ 06-16-2011 08:26 AM

get the NAV!

all the cool kids do.

elmz 06-16-2011 09:58 AM

I wanted the Nav as well, I personally think its worth it. But I didn't want to get the touring package just to get the Nav. If Nissan provided the Nav option on the Base, I would have spent the 3k.

c41006 06-16-2011 10:05 AM

There is no way it is worth 3K however I would probably get it if I were doing it all over again

elmz 06-16-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by c41006 (Post 1172714)
There is no way it is worth 3K however I would probably get it if I were doing it all over again

Well, lets consider the alternative which is an aftermarket setup.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3995/img3131a.jpg

Now the 3K integrated setup.
http://victorianissan.files.wordpres...znavscreen.jpg

BTW, to be fair I tried to find equal quality images. Anyway, what anyone deems worthy of their money is none of my business. I agree, I would never spend 3K on the nav unit alone. But you have to consider everything you're getting which includes, flush look, proper location, integration with climate control, steering wheel buttons, etc... you'll never achieve these with an aftermarket setup for 3K.

gillies 06-16-2011 02:02 PM

Love my NAV.

EgoTrip 06-16-2011 03:35 PM

In my opinion, the NAV system is not worth the price. Nissan lists 9 key features of the package. Let's look at them.

USB Connectivity - great feature, pretty much standard on every after-market double-DIN system

XM Traffic
XM Weather
Zagat - These are cool, especially at first. But smart phones have these and better. It will also run you $30+ per month to keep these features.

9.3GB Music box - Really? Less than 10GB? You already have USB, why is this a feature?

Navigation - Integrated touch screen or not, there's no excuse for this being a $2000 option anymore. Portable units are so cheap these days that it doesn't even pay to upgrade the maps anymore.

Bluetooth - Great feature. But it's insanely cheap and simple these days. Should be included, or a cheap dealer installed option.

DVD playback - Again, really??? You can play movies while parked? A portable DVD player is under $200, plugs into the 12V jack, and can be used while driving (by the passenger).

Nissan did a great job integrating the system into the Z, and it's really easy to use all the features. But it's just too expensive.

That said, I do have the NAV package in my Roadster. But I got one of the last 2010's in the May special sale, and the only one I could get with the packages I wanted had the NAV also. I told them I'd only take it if the price of the NAV was taken out, and it was.

shadoquad 06-16-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 1172763)
Well, lets consider the alternative which is an aftermarket setup.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3995/img3131a.jpg

Now the 3K integrated setup.
http://victorianissan.files.wordpres...znavscreen.jpg

BTW, to be fair I tried to find equal quality images. Anyway, what anyone deems worthy of their money is none of my business. I agree, I would never spend 3K on the nav unit alone. But you have to consider everything you're getting which includes, flush look, proper location, integration with climate control, steering wheel buttons, etc... you'll never achieve these with an aftermarket setup for 3K.

And the third option, which is no nav, which is also a viable option for plenty of drivers.

Econ 06-16-2011 03:47 PM

mines not a DD, so i never really need nav...although it does make the console look nicer.

shadoquad 06-16-2011 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1173599)
mines not a DD, so i never really need nav...although it does make the console look nicer.

I disagree. I think the cubby looks better.

Econ 06-16-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1173611)
I disagree. I think the cubby looks better.

:ugh:

FromG2Z 06-16-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1173611)
I disagree. I think the cubby looks better.

Agree... esp when I have my diecast Z in there for all to see :happydance:

ZOLE 06-16-2011 04:52 PM

Love my Nav, no regrets whatsoever.:tup:

I do use the GPS often since I've been doing a lot of travel to unfamiliar places :driving: these past couple of years and the voice + bluetooth integration is great.

They passed a law in Maryland not long ago that made handsfree mandatory, although everyone pretty much ignores it and still uses their handsets, which pisses me off :mad: because I wind up getting cut off frequently by unattentive people yapping on their phones in their Escalades , but that's another story.

On the other hand, I've never used the music box (I have my iPod that I've already ripped all my CDs to). Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever used the CD player either :confused:. I mostly just use the XM, FM, and iPod.

I'd say go with it if you want its features. Gives the interior that nice finished (sort of luxary) touch.

shadoquad 06-16-2011 05:09 PM

Bro,
The problem isn't ppl holding a phone. It's ppl paying more attn to their conversation than the road.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOLE (Post 1173733)
Love my Nav, no regrets whatsoever.:tup:

I do use the GPS often since I've been doing a lot of travel to unfamiliar places :driving: these past couple of years and the voice + bluetooth integration is great.

They passed a law in Maryland not long ago that made handsfree mandatory, although everyone pretty much ignores it and still uses their handsets, which pisses me off :mad: because I wind up getting cut off frequently by unattentive people yapping on their phones in their Escalades , but that's another story.

On the other hand, I've never used the music box (I have my iPod that I've already ripped all my CDs to). Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever used the CD player either :confused:. I mostly just use the XM, FM, and iPod.

I'd say go with it if you want its features. Gives the interior that nice finished (sort of luxary) touch.


ZOLE 06-16-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1173797)
Bro,
The problem isn't ppl holding a phone. It's ppl paying more attn to their conversation than the road.

Oh really, tell that to this guy ;)
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4NJmB1F2mdE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Evidently caused by driver dropping cell phone while yapping. Went to pick it up and ... well the rest is history.

shadoquad 06-16-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOLE (Post 1173908)
Oh really, tell that to this guy ;)
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4NJmB1F2mdE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Evidently caused by driver dropping cell phone while yapping. Went to pick it up and ... well the rest is history.

lol I've had ppl rear end me bcuz they were blabbing to their passengers.

Kensi 06-16-2011 08:36 PM

wow, I appreciated all the great comments and opinions from everyone. I think I have a clear understanding of what I am leaning towards now. Thanks again guys. Hope to post pics soon!!!! =)

USINC97 06-16-2011 09:31 PM

My wife bought the car. I just drive it. When I need to Nav, I plug in the Garman. The Sat radio works fine. If not, I have the ipod which has my entire music collection on it. A couple of buttons and I am good to go. With the way our Z sounds it would have been a waste of money to add anything other than what it came with. I am not knocking the car, but we bought it for the sheer fun of driving it.

My experience with buying OEM options has been so so. Many times I have paid extra to have equipment installed only to find out that when I went to trade it in, the high paid options did not add to the value of my trade. It only added to the value when the next person bought the car. Over the past years I have noted that although the OEM equipment looks and performs well most high end after market gear is just has good or in some cases even better. Plus, most high end operations can install your gear which has the look of OEM or better.

Roadster4Us 06-16-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kensi (Post 1174252)
wow, I appreciated all the great comments and opinions from everyone. I think I have a clear understanding of what I am leaning towards now. Thanks again guys. Hope to post pics soon!!!! =)

All these great comments and you're not letting us know what you decided? Come on, spill it. :tup:

UNKNOWN_370 06-16-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt (Post 1171225)
You are not going to get a good answer here from this forum. I have it and think its great. No matter what is said by others there is no DOWNSIDE to the OEM Nav unit. It is well integrated and looks good.

If you can afford it, get it. It is expensive compared to portable GPS's but.......A portable GPS wont help the value of the car.

If you notice....the guy who said he did not want it.....has a base 370. My opinion is that the CHEAP guys....with little or NO money....will say its not worth it. These are also the same guys who have Ventus V12 tires on their cars and think they are good.....I have Advan Neovas and think think the V12's are cheap junk.

Straight up and down, you are a wannabe. I can smell the (sh)it all the way over here. Base+ sport and NISMO are for the enthusiasts. You might wanna spend 3k on factory crap and think you are somethin hot. While someone else is spendin 25k in mods that you can't see unless you pop the hood. Where that leaves you? Wannabe! Oh and by the way. If you are never going to the track. V12's are more than enough for the street.







Cantwé sangano.

Kensi 06-17-2011 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster4Us (Post 1174392)
All these great comments and you're not letting us know what you decided? Come on, spill it. :tup:

Thats what the picture are for man ;) Time will only tell. :happydance:

FromG2Z 06-17-2011 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USINC97 (Post 1174375)
My wife bought the car. I just drive it. When I need to Nav, I plug in the Garman. The Sat radio works fine. If not, I have the ipod which has my entire music collection on it. A couple of buttons and I am good to go. With the way our Z sounds it would have been a waste of money to add anything other than what it came with. I am not knocking the car, but we bought it for the sheer fun of driving it.

My experience with buying OEM options has been so so. Many times I have paid extra to have equipment installed only to find out that when I went to trade it in, the high paid options did not add to the value of my trade. It only added to the value when the next person bought the car. Over the past years I have noted that although the OEM equipment looks and performs well most high end after market gear is just has good or in some cases even better. Plus, most high end operations can install your gear which has the look of OEM or better.

:iagree:

Couldn't have said it any better. My previous car I went all out and got the nav, bluetooth, full integration, etcetc etc....

I hardly used it in the 3 years I owned the car.... don't get me wrong, it was "nice", but... was more interested in the "drive" than the techno babbles and "bling" inside the car.

To each his own.

FromG2Z 06-17-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1174414)
Straight up and down, you are a wannabe. I can smell the (sh)it all the way over here. Base+ sport and NISMO are for the enthusiasts. You might wanna spend 3k on factory crap and think you are somethin hot. While someone else is spendin 25k in mods that you can't see unless you pop the hood. Where that leaves you? Wannabe! Oh and by the way. If you are never going to the track. V12's are more than enough for the street.







Cantwé sangano.

:owned:


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