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Thinking about trading my 2003 BMW 330ci in for a 370z sport/touring or Nismo edition. Do you guys really love the 370z? I like it a lot but do y'all feel it is a $35,000 car?

What did you do with Landon 1-6?

Have you ever seen Logan's Run?


Really though. If luxury is what you want buy the G37, if it's a sports car the Z is well worth it.

They are making a 2012 version.


Anyway , not sure what you hope to gain by moving from a 2003 BMW 330ci to a 370. Although it's a few years old, it's still a stylish car. I'd drive the wheels off the bimmer and invest the savings.

what kind of driving are you planning on doing. i have driven 370z, i see you are a BMW owner right now, take a look at a newer 335i also. i much rather have a 335i for daily driving. but the Z is one fun car.

I just want something more fun. I would like to put a twin turbo kit, etc on the car. Ne'er owned a turbo ride before but wasn't going to waste the money on something I didn't think was worth turboing. Don't really plan on abusing the car but want a fun car to play with. I think the Z is it. Just wanted a few opinions.

The 335i is a TT

I'm guessing he meant something running a little more boost. If you go with a Z, just go into it with your eyes wide open. It will be loud, it will burn through tires, its a rough ride, and the stock sound system sucks. Oh, and it's doors are no match for a Miata's. If you're cool with that, then go wild. Just make sure it's really what you want, otherwise you'll wind up joining the legions of Mustang deserters in six months

Basically just wanted opinions as to the quality of the car overall.

I'm one of the original members here, and was also one of the first to own this car. I've also owned 19 other cars to compare the Z to. With my credentials proven, you can trust me when I say this is a fantastic car with great quality, and a perfect mix of performance to luxury. I rarely ever see complaints on the car, and when I do, they are absurdly trivial.

That's good to know. I do like the car quite a bit. Is the Nismo worth the extra money over the sport touring package?

I'm not even touching that one, it's personal preference. What I can say, that is a fact, is that for the money you would spend on a nismo, you can get more HP VIA aftermarket parts.

Also, if you want a full breakdown of ALL the complaints about the car, see this thread:
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ts-so-far.html

Are you asking if they got the pricing right? I guess but that's not what should determine your decision making process when purchasing a new car.

The parts that comprise a car are what..... about a couple hundred bucks worth plus the labor that went into assembly? So it's probably not all that different than a Lambo when you think about it. So is it a 35k car? No. No car is. Is it worth every penny? Well I guess that depends on who you ask. I say absolutely.

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The NISMO is a more sporty setup and the touring is a more luxury setup. It depends on what you want.

Major difference in cost of materials, R & D, etc, but won't even get into that. It's a car for people who enjoy driving. It will never have the best infotainment in the industry. It will never have the fastest 0-60 times. Its for someone who wants to have an absolute blast driving their car.

You cannot tell me any car is worth 200k (I'm not saying I wouldn't gladly pay that if I had Oprah money... I'm just saying I don't care how much R&D is done, metal is metal, plastic is plastic and materials don't cost 200k, names do)

And for the record every video of a burning car I see on the side of the road costs north of 200k. I've never seen a Z burst into flames for no good reason whatsoever. I guess more R&D is needed over in Italy. :rolleyes:

I think also if you want the fastest 0-60 time you can expect to pay around 65k (you can pick up an Arial Atom for about that nowadays)

All I can say on the question asked by the OP is the Z is a bonifide sports car. I find it fine as a DD, with a sport pkg. Its ride is hard but compliant for what it is. When you buy bimmers audis and muscle cars. You are also buying convenience and functionality. Albeit, this car is very functional, for a sports car. The others are just functional as cars in general.

Fun factor, this car is way more fun for the money. If you are trying to get to 60 as fast as you can? This car will get there very fast, BUT you can buy faster ones still for the same price. But if you have advanced driving ability and want a car that will do anything you ask it to??? The Z IS FOR YOU. IMHO, No car in the price range handles as well and as true as the Z.

I would just test drive it first. Then comme back on the forum and ask more questions and use our search for whatever concerns you have. Go to the forums of other cars you are interested in as well. Test drive all the cars you like. Its the best way to get a feel for what you want out of a car.

should suit just fine.

This is either a joke or you have no sense of how much things cost.

The carbon fiber bodywork alone on the Saleen S7 costs around 150k for Saleen to produce. The engine bay of the McLaren F1 is coated in gold (for heat dissipation purposes). Then add in carbon-ceramic brakes, aluminum, stainless steel, titanium, etc. I mean, come on now.

Back to the OP's question, I think the 370z offers a lot of car for 35k.

Or engineering hours.

Thank you gents. I was at a loss there

also i am eligible for that VPP discount because of who i work for. so thats the best its going to get? not any lower than that?

Check Lou Fusz Nissan in the St. Louis area (I am not affiliated with them), he is a member on this site and runs specials from time to time, like $1500 below invoice (invoice, not MSRP). Lou is a great guy, I did buy my car from him, and even though you live in LA, people from all over the country have bought from him. Google the dealership and give him a call. He will work with you.

By the time I would pay for the gas or flight or shipping it would be the same dofference or close enough to it to not warrant the $1500. I appreciate the advice none the less.

Buy the 335i. I thought about buying a 370Z and slapping a TT setup on it, right before I saw people selling cars like that and getting hosed on resale. Heck, I am already thinking of trading my Z06 in on a C7 or '10 last edition Viper in another year and a half. You rarely keep a car forever, and you will take a serious bath on a TT 370Z unless you find THE customer.

However, if you want to keep the 370Z stock, I drove a few. Yes, it's easily worth $35K. Very well-made at its price-point.

Well, what can I say? You need to keep buying cheap cars because you can't appreciate the expensive ones.

You think your 370Z is the pinnacle of engineering and the rest of the money in an F458 goes into the name? Or are you dogging on it because the adhesive formula first used was combustible at too low a temperature? Ferrari bought all those cars back/fixed them. What did Nissan do about their junk transmissions in the first GT-R's "We sorry, no launch mode, is mud/snow mode. Car no fun when launch hard, rear end go bump bump bump".

Yeah. Stick with your Nissans.

*Yes, I drive a Chevy, but I'm not so ignorant as to think engineering in the automotive world stops at my CF fenders (Initial R&D cost, $500K for tooling/design and research, not including any materials. Just in case you are counting cost/value, that's just the 2 front fenders on a mass-produced car.).

Hey Import,

Do you have any Corvette forums you'd suggest checking out? I'm having some thoughts about the future. ;)

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The 335 drives well but lacks the fun of a Z.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/ is a pretty good place.

I am considering either trading my '11 Z in on a '13 Z if they do a 60th anniversary package that is tasteful and it's the last year for the C6, or going '10 SRT-10.

The reason I am back-pedaling on the C7 is that every time GM comes out with a new 'vette, it takes another year or two to come out with the performance model, and then another few years to work out the kinks. It's only natural, but I would rather the fully evolved C6 platform for a "keeper". This car will have built my credit and given me experience in a 500+ hp 3200# vehicle as well as having owned one, I now better know what options I like, and would like.

That being said, the 370Z I drove felt like a slower Z06 with a softer suspension and better sterio. It's a really really nice car in its price-range. If $35-40K were my budget, and 280whp were enough, it's the car I would buy.

I don't have first-hand experience with the 335i, but I have seen a lot of them that were lowered and had autoX hints about them (sticker/license-plate frame, etc.)

They can't be THAT boring.

Yeah, I'm definitely a bit wary of a new model 'Vette, but if it is actually mid-engine (I know, it's unlikely), and split window, I probably won't be able to resist.

Strong doubts that it will be mid-engine. That's a rumor that just won't die.

I'm the opposite on split window. If it is, I'll definitely buy the '13 (or '14, or whatever) C6Z and call it good. I'm going to keep my '11 in positive equity until I know for sure what/when the C7 is and then decide. I will say, though, the Z06 is an awesome car. I can putter around town all day in it, or I can hit tripple digits so fast its scary. The car really does have a Clark Kent/Superman persona. Not so much the suspension, though, which is one thing that has me wanting a '13. Will order the F55 option this go around.

F55 = Magnetic Ride?

They have said that the C7 is going to be a big departure from the previous models (or something like that), so I'm really curious to see what they come up with. I'm doubting it will be mid-engine too, but man, I'm still crossing my fingers.

Why are you against a split-window? Just not into that style?

Have you done any engine mods to the Z06? Not that you really need to, but listening to some clips of the C6 with headers + exhaust, it sounds scary awesome. The idea of modding for a big American V8 is sounding really great to me.

335i...

I think tthey mean stock to stock... boring is a strong word. I would call the 335I more composed and sedate in comparison to the Z. It handles great but you really have to have get the car over 90mph for it to be really fun. The Z is fun at speeds as low as 40mph due to its extremely short wheelbase and taughter suspension.

Not to harp on the one guy, but I also always hear (top gear, fifth gear) that McLaren never even made much of a profit off the F1. And that's at 1 miiiiillion dollars each.

PM sent to keep OP's thread on track :tiphat:

Boo! I live to derail threads!

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I think the 370Z is the best value for a two seat sports car with some amazing engine tech and some really nice options available.

If you want nicer/pricier, you can go up to a Cayman S, Lotus Evora, Audi R8, a Ferrari 458 (I like mid-engine cars :) ).

I don't think the 335i is the same type of car at all, so it really depends on what you want from your car.