I like BMWs i really do but its just time for something different. if i get the Z i would like to do a few things to it but nothing major. if anything a set of deep dish 20's, twin turbo, titanium tip exhaust, carbon fiber lip kit all the way around i believe thats the correct term, 2 solar baric 8 in squares in the back, and some other engine mods. a clean look with out making a nice car look like its cheap.

the 370 is going to be more fun to drive but you are going to miss the luxury of the bmw. if i was you i would trade for a 335is. i think that would be equally as fun and look bad *** imo.

Well put.

Let's not forget some of these cars are hand made too. A Ferrari can do a 180 all day with no problems cause that's what it was designed for. A 35,000 dollar car well that's a different story obviously.

What about the Evo,Corvette,Camaro or Mustang?

bang for the buck
 

a BMW guy may not like the rawness

the Z is a very solid value @ $32k

handles awesome

looks good

is quick enough

Well said solid on all points.........:iagree:

i would rather mod any one of those cars over a 370z N/A v6

i really like the body lines on the 370. that combined with a set of deep dish 20's set the car off really nice. some cars you look at and are like "man that really catches my attention" well the 370 does that for me. theres just something about the car that i just have to have it. i just wanted to know if anyone regretted the purchase and why. it probably wouldnt have swayed my opinion really. more so just something i should look out for.

What it sounds like you want is a C6 Z06 with the Z07 package.

You get the 450whp a turbo Z on a street tune would have.
You get the CF kit you want.
You get the 19/20" rims with good rubber.

It also comes with a 100K mile drive line warranty, resale value, and you are assured all the parts in the package will play nice togather.

To do a TT Z...

$35K for the car.
$12-15K for the kit.
$5K for a real CF body-kit and a bit of paint-matching if any is needed, etc.
$4K for rims/rubber.

You end up at $65K with no warranty and probably at least a couple of fabbed up 1-off type parts to make stuff fit that didn't fit and wasn't intended to fit from the factory.
For about $77K, you can get a 1LZ Z07/CFZ equipped Z06.

If you are going to blow $65K on a car, another 12K won't break the bank, and I guarantee the Z06 will be a helluva lot less "kit-car" ish than a 370Z with all those mods regarding reliability as a whole (has proper diff/trans/engine cooling to handle the power, has proper rear-end/transmission to handle the power, etc.)

Just playing devil's advocate, but I came on here wondering the EXACT same thing about the 370Z you did, priced all the TT kits, on and on. Bought the factory 450whp car instead.

Also, I just think the Z06 is a lot more tasteful than a kitted up Z on rims. Every time I see a thread with a kitted up Z, it seems like half the people who post about it say "Meh, not my style". With the Z06/Viper threads, about the only thing people argue is the color of the paint. Factory cars just tend to "flow" a little better. Also, this carries over into resale as well. You seem to get bored easily, keep it in mind.

Pretty much.

Ford makes a 600+bhp kit for the mustang GT that will cost you less than the 450hp kits for the 370Z by a factor of nearly half.

The base Corvette/Camaro makes another 75whp with a cam and exhaust and a tune (putting it at around 430-450.) Costs about $25-3500.

The Evo, well, I don't know a lot about those so I can't say. I hear that factory FI cars like more FI, though :tiphat:

with the EVO. all you need to do is get a CAI, exhaust, tune( for higher boost) and call it a day. you can also upgrade the intercooler. and then if you are ballz enough to swap a bigger turbo into it+ supporting mods now thats a AWD BEAST!

Dude I'm not trying to take anyone to the mat here, but I see you posting all these American fanboy comments and it makes me wonder. First, have you ever actually owned a Z? And secondly, if you have all these cars you prefer over a Z, including but not limited to, the ones in your signature...why are you even on here? I'm sure there's plenty of Mustang or Camaro forums that would love to have your Z bashing there

I will either end up with another Z down the line, or the new vette. Doe anyone what the new vette will look like, and are they going to change that awful interior. The interior is my biggest turn off.

Don't know yet.

The 2012 Centennial Edition 'Vette's interior looks way nicer, I think.

They also need to fix the flat seat cushions. I test drove a Z51 package Vette and was sliding all over the place when cornering

I read somewhere that they don't want high bolsters on the vette's seats because their target demographic is men in their 50s and above, so they don't want to make the seats too difficult to get in and out of.

At least the Centennial model looks to have pretty decent bolstering in the seats, not sure if others are any different:
http://www.carsmagz.com/wp-content/u...ew-570x427.jpg

Personally if I got a Vette I'd be pulling out the seats for race seats + harnesses. But that's because it'd be almost purely track dedicated.

/thread_derailment

when is the c7 due?

2013 for MY2014 at the earliest, according to the CEO (I believe) of Chevy.

edit: One link I found:
http://newsdailybrief.com/new-corvet...ngined/354253/
Most of the article is BS, but there are some comments from Chevrolet in there.

Hahahahaha. To sell better to its target customer... The corvette will be renamed the "Geezermoble 5000 in 2013: :rofl2:

I guess it makes sense, but still, kind of contradictory to the overall mission of the Corvette itself.

Well, we could say their overall mission is to sell cars, so if old dudes are the ones buying them, they have to cater to that. From my experience owning a vette and running with that crowd, I would say very few of these things are seeing the track. Most of them become weekend cruisers.

True. Obviously they want to sell cars, but it almost seems to me that if you go that route why not offer a V6/V8 package type of thing. To all who are gearing up their flamethrowers, yes I know it's blasphemy, but if you're going to neuter the seats in a car that runs like a raped ape, might as well neuter the engine too

I have to disagree there. swapping seats out is much easier than doing an engine swap. Just swap the seats if you dont like them.

Very valid point. I was more playing devil's advocate there, if you're making certain areas of your car "soft" to better cater to your target demographic, 430+ horsepower, huge brakes, etc seem a little redundant wouldn't you say?

Word. Most people that drive hard do that anyways.

Its not like the 370z seats are that great either. The civic si an the maxima have better bolstering.

It definitely feels like a $35,000 car and I couldn't be happier!
It's a heck of an improvement over the Pinto I was driving previously.

Are there a lot of people that have all their mods pre-planned? I look at the Z and just see a car that I'd want to get into and drive it like I stole it.

If I didn't need my back seats . . .

They haven't have a Z51 in the better part of half a decade. Like said, the seats are re-designed for '12 as well. Also, a set of seats isn't a big deal, won't void a warranty, and won't cost an arm and a leg.

Yes, and the 370Z will be "Collegemobile 5000". All cars will now be named after their stereotypical demographic, lol.

Part of the reason kids have 370Z's and older people or older kids like myself (at 25, I consider myself a kid compared to many) have Z06's and whatnot is because of income (or lack), not because one was designed for a certain age. It was designed for a certain income-level. The target median income of the average Z06 owner in 2006 was $130K according to GM's market study before releasing the car per their sales DVD that I lucked into buying from someone on another forum (Dealer item only).

About seats...

http://www.corvetteconti.com/blog/wp...12-seats21.jpg

vs.

http://gallery.carreview.com/data/ca..._rdstr-168.jpg

I'm really not seeing anything extraordinary about either. You will note, though, the HIGHER BOLSTERS on the corvette seat.

The only OEM seats on cars under $100K I can think of that are full of win for the track are in the Viper.

2012 seat looks pretty great to me. Still wouldn't want them in a track car though, but that's kind of irrelevant, because I wouldn't want track seats in a mostly street car.

Also I doubt the average age of a Porsche owner versus a Corvette owner is that different, not sure why the Corvette always gets slammed as an "old man" car.


edit: lol, Import, you should just start a Corvette thread, like we have a Mustang thread, I think there's enough interest and there are a few Corvette owners on the forum. I'd certainly be interested in hearing from you guys.

Because it's such a damn fine ride that that's about all anyone can think of to poke at it. :driving:

What do you want to hear from us? 190+mph top speed, 0-60 in around 4 seconds or less, 0-100 in around 9 seconds or less, and over 1G on the skidpad in a car that gets great mileage (My Z06 got a manually figured 26.02mpg over 117 miles the other week on the freeway including some on/off ramps and a bit of WOT. I covered the same ground twice, coming and going, so that eliminates "going down hill" all the way as the reason.).

Really that's about it. Corvette's perform right up there with the top of the line imports from Porsche, Ferrari, etc. they are affordable, and the interior isn't nearly as shabby as people want to pretend that it is to justify having bought something else.

*However*

The only 370Z and corvette that can be compared are loaded 370Z's and the coupe C6, simply due to price. Comparing a Z06 to a stock 370Z just doesn't equate price-wise. Sure, each car does something better than the other here or there, but then, my daily beater does some things better than a Ferrari. Noone really cares.

Yeah I dunno, I'm just tired of reading about the Mustangs. Only one I was even remotely interested in was the Boss 302LS, but that has faded away for me.

This man knows what he is saying! :tup:

YEs I love my 370Z! Just rolled over 35,000 miles and I loved and enjoyed every single one of them. If you're looking into a raw sports coupe that that two seats, harsh ride, noisy, natural aspiration engine , great stlying etc then 370Z is your pick. If you wanna stay comfy, want the back seats, like those BMW amenities, I highly suggest you look into 335i coupe (sorry 135i just doesn't look appealing to me for some reason).

Good luck.

Importconvert, please stay on topic. if you wanna discuss "corvettes", please make a thread in "other vehicle" section.

First off I want to say that I am definitely a hater since you are only 25 and have a brand new Z06. LOL. More importantly I would like to know how the hell can you afford or want to pay the Louisiana insurance rate on a vehicle like that? Out of curiousity, what do you pay per month? Our insurance rates are stupid high in Louisiana. Its stupid.

I also wanted to disagree with you comment about the interior quality of the vette. IMHO it has one of if nothe worst interiors I have ever been in, and it was a huge turn off when I test drove a loaded out 09.

[QUOTE=ImportConvert;1117525]They haven't have a Z51 in the better part of half a decade. Like said, the seats are re-designed for '12 as well. Also, a set of seats isn't a big deal, won't void a warranty, and won't cost an arm and a leg.


2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Tested & Compared with Z51, Z06 - Feature - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

Pretty sure it's still an option, regardless of any changes to the seats it may have I added that for relevance. My point was that in my personal experience, when I drove the Vette I was sliding all over the seat, while I don't in the Z. Yes the Vette was leather, and my Z is the cloth upholstery, so that very well could have made the difference. My seat of the pants impression (literally) was that there was very little hip bolstering. With the majority of Vette owners using them for boulevard cruisers and what not, I would also hazard a guess that few of them are keen to drop $1k+ on a new set of seats. And I'm not saying they lacked bolstering on spirited driving only, it was in routine cornering I found myself sliding

The whole vette interior is terrible. Its a slap in the face to open the door of a vette then see the price tag. Its like you pay. 30k for the engine. 50k for the suspension and tires. (Which still needs tuning) and 5k for the rest of the car. The vette just doesn't divi up as a brand new ride.

I haven't looked at the interior of a current model Corvette, but I thought the Centennial edition for 2012 looked pretty nice.

I couldnt agree more. My buddy had an S2000, and he thought it had the worst interior out there for the longest which I thought was crazy. I told him go test drive a vette one day. Well that day came and lets just say he couldnt believe that people actually bought the car in that condition. I would love to grab the next gen vette, but if the interior doesnt se a significant upgrade, I wont look twice at it.