Nissan Ester Oil

Chan Chee Hoe · 05-20-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

I think to much thought is being put into this.
I use Mobil 1, its a true PAO, been used to death, Ferrari uses it on their f1 cars, I think it will be ok on the Z.

I have read that high ester based oils are recommended for people who track their cars in high temperature. Since I don't I am ok with not having nissan ester oil.

Another interesting thing I came up with is:
SAE Technical Paper 2003-01-3119

Which says that engine wear and tear actually decreases with engine oil life. So the more frequent you change your oil the worse it is for your parts. Interesting read.

Ferrari F1 teams uses only Shell oil & fuels.

Bobba Booey · 05-21-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

Anyone have a way to test oils?

It's very easy to get an oil analysis done and it only costs $22.50. Check it out at Blackstone Laboratories - Standard Analysis

Chupacabra · 05-21-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe

Ferrari F1 teams uses only Shell oil & fuels.

yeah my bad, its the enemy who carries mobil 1:

I took some of the mobil 1 oil to my school, the chemistry department can do the analysis for me, So once i get the results Ill post them.

semtex · 05-21-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobba Booey

It's very easy to get an oil analysis done and it only costs $22.50. Check it out at Blackstone Laboratories - Standard Analysis

Blackstone tests used oil so you can see how much metal is in your oil. These guys are looking for testing of unused oil to see what the composition is, base stock, etc.

Bobba Booey · 05-21-2009, 12:21 PM

The composition isn't nearly as important as how the oil actually performs in a particular engine. Oil is more complicated than what the specs of the oil are. The only real way of doing a comparison of any significance is doing a used oil analysis.

semtex · 05-21-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobba Booey

The composition isn't nearly as important as how the oil actually performs in a particular engine. Oil is more complicated than what the specs of the oil are. The only real way of doing a comparison of any significance is doing a used oil analysis.

That's fine and well, but Chupacabra wants to know what's in the composition of differing brands of oil. If you don't think that's a worthwhile inquiry, that's fine, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But I'm just pointing out that doing a Blackstone analysis isn't going to get Chupacabra the answer to his question is all. By answering his question the way you did, you could lead him to spend $22.50 on something that won't even give him the info he's looking for. That's not cool, man. (Can you imagine him sending fresh unused oil to Blackstone?) So I'm warning him that Blackstone won't give him the info he's seeking. Will Blackstone give him good, valuable info on what's in his used oil? Yep, you bet they will. I plan to send them my own used oil for analysis. But that's not what Chupacabra is looking for right now. I'm just trying to save the guy from spending $22.50 on the wrong thing.

Old Chuck · 05-22-2009, 07:01 AM

Posted question about Nissan Ester Oil on bobistheoilguy.com under Nissan Ester Oil by AgingChuck. Got some great info on Ester and other oils. If anyone wants the latest and most comprehensive info I have seen on Ester oil, I would go to bob's site, pull up a chair and read a bunch on this and other oils. Guys have some great stuff there......

TBSS2008 · 05-22-2009, 10:12 AM

I just got my oil changed today on my 370z. The dealership filled it up with the suggested Nissan Ester Oil, which cost me $69.99. I don’t think this is too expensive. My Trail Blazer SS's oil change is about the same cost at the Chevrolet dealership; however it gets Mobil One Synthetic.

Shift · 05-22-2009, 01:22 PM

Just called local cealer here in York, Pa. They haven't even changed the oil on a 370z yet. called carmax where I got the Z they said 65.00 oil change with the ester oil Nissan wants us to use. Not bad since my oil change on the GSX-R cost 54.00

2bits · 05-22-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Chuck

Posted question about Nissan Ester Oil on bobistheoilguy.com under Nissan Ester Oil by AgingChuck. Got some great info on Ester and other oils. If anyone wants the latest and most comprehensive info I have seen on Ester oil, I would go to bob's site, pull up a chair and read a bunch on this and other oils. Guys have some great stuff there......

Good info! I have to wonder why Nissan would market it's oil as a generic ester (or ester additives, more accurately), rather than playing up the DLC nanoparticle content. Massive marketing fail...

Shift · 05-22-2009, 06:56 PM

Just got back from my oil change with a big smile on my face. My tech showed me they had a package deal for an oil change. Same ester oil just a tad cheaper showed me the part numbers. Left after paying 31.61 for my oil change with the ester oil Nissan requires. Even said to remind him of the packaged oil when I come back. So i'll get the same low price. All is good as long as it's on the up and up.

smartbomb · 05-22-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Chuck

Posted question about Nissan Ester Oil on bobistheoilguy.com under Nissan Ester Oil by AgingChuck. Got some great info on Ester and other oils. If anyone wants the latest and most comprehensive info I have seen on Ester oil, I would go to bob's site, pull up a chair and read a bunch on this and other oils. Guys have some great stuff there......

Got a link?

SoCal 370Z · 05-22-2009, 08:16 PM

Nissan Ester Oils? by Old Chuck

imag · 05-22-2009, 08:55 PM

Reading that, I have to say, for $70 (that was what they charged me too), I'm tempted to stay with Nissan for oil changes. The fact that they invented an oil for this motor suggests it's probably worth using, and the price is less than I'd pay for Amsoil.

I usually laugh at people who get services at the dealer, but I have to say it does look good for resale if you have dealer receipts for your oil changes. It means you didn't skimp on cost, and it means you had someone looking at the car who could see other problems as they came up.

homeslice · 07-09-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by import111

This confirms my decision to use Royal Purple in my Z. Thanks for the info LiquidZ.

Ugh, I think it should confirm your decision to use Amsoil.

Amsoil vs. Royal Purple on the dyno

I'd go with Amsoil any day of the week. Royal Purple wasn't even a wet dream when Amsoil was out making synthetic oils. Amsoil has many, many years of experience over RP.

When you pay for RP, all you're spending money on is inflated pricing. They make cheap oil and have huge markups. Where do you think all of those advertising dollars come from? Funny how Amsoil is sold word of mouth and they don't need to throw all that money away.

I'll never use RP again after a friend of mine showed me Amsoil. I'm saving a boatload with this stuff and in 10 years I've never had a single engine, transmission or rear-end problem and I drive my cars like I stole them.

I have friends who race 1,000 horsepower motors with this stuff and beat the hell out of engines. When they open up the engines to upgrade parts, the insides look like a shiny new quarter with no engine wear whatsoever.

05-22-2009, 07:01 AM	#67 (permalink)
Old Chuck Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida & SC Posts: 86 Drives: 05 Tundra& 02 Subaru Rep Power: 16	Great info on Nissan Ester oils Posted question about Nissan Ester Oil on bobistheoilguy.com under Nissan Ester Oil by AgingChuck. Got some great info on Ester and other oils. If anyone wants the latest and most comprehensive info I have seen on Ester oil, I would go to bob's site, pull up a chair and read a bunch on this and other oils. Guys have some great stuff there......

05-22-2009, 08:16 PM	#73 (permalink)
SoCal 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: US of A Posts: 2,842 Drives: Answers Rep Power: 33	Nissan Ester Oils? by Old Chuck __________________ ( Click to show/hide ) Why I NEVER say NO to the Panda Lou Fusz!!!

05-21-2009, 12:21 PM	#65 (permalink)
Bobba Booey Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sirius Posts: 51 Drives: Z33 Rep Power: 16	The composition isn't nearly as important as how the oil actually performs in a particular engine. Oil is more complicated than what the specs of the oil are. The only real way of doing a comparison of any significance is doing a used oil analysis.

05-22-2009, 10:12 AM	#68 (permalink)
TBSS2008 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 195 Drives: 11 Corvette GS 6spd Rep Power: 16	I just got my oil changed today on my 370z. The dealership filled it up with the suggested Nissan Ester Oil, which cost me $69.99. I don’t think this is too expensive. My Trail Blazer SS's oil change is about the same cost at the Chevrolet dealership; however it gets Mobil One Synthetic.

05-22-2009, 01:22 PM	#69 (permalink)
Shift Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Glen Rock,PA Age: 57 Posts: 220 Drives: (370-Z MT Blue 7A) Rep Power: 15	Just called local cealer here in York, Pa. They haven't even changed the oil on a 370z yet. called carmax where I got the Z they said 65.00 oil change with the ester oil Nissan wants us to use. Not bad since my oil change on the GSX-R cost 54.00

05-22-2009, 06:56 PM	#71 (permalink)
Shift Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Glen Rock,PA Age: 57 Posts: 220 Drives: (370-Z MT Blue 7A) Rep Power: 15	Just got back from my oil change with a big smile on my face. My tech showed me they had a package deal for an oil change. Same ester oil just a tad cheaper showed me the part numbers. Left after paying 31.61 for my oil change with the ester oil Nissan requires. Even said to remind him of the packaged oil when I come back. So i'll get the same low price. All is good as long as it's on the up and up.

05-22-2009, 08:55 PM	#74 (permalink)
imag Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 446 Drives: up the wall Rep Power: 16	Reading that, I have to say, for $70 (that was what they charged me too), I'm tempted to stay with Nissan for oil changes. The fact that they invented an oil for this motor suggests it's probably worth using, and the price is less than I'd pay for Amsoil. I usually laugh at people who get services at the dealer, but I have to say it does look good for resale if you have dealer receipts for your oil changes. It means you didn't skimp on cost, and it means you had someone looking at the car who could see other problems as they came up.