You just have to have a fat bank account:rofl2:

Oh, I see. You hate the pandas.

How did Lou get dragged into this thread?

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It's environmentally friendly by harming the environment less. Also has less CO2 emissions I believe, which does help the environment. There's the whole thing about battery production/transport etc, but I was just trying to show the other guy that hybrids can be performance oriented and stylish too.

i love the pandas

Considering that even at worst, human industry produces less than 10% of the sum total of greenhouse gas emission, I think the whole eco friendly car scene is a crock.

I want hybrids/electrics to see if they can improve upon combustion's performance and/or value. I have no other interest.

Even electric cars are powered by coal, since that's what generates most electricity.

Totally agree with you on that. I want to have a career in the energy industry to help develop technologies for renewable energy use for electricity.

I think a gas turbine engine has good potential if we can get over the engineering difficulties that come with them. Jaguar had it in one of their new concepts but I'm not sure if it was actually functional and running or not.

you know Lou should get in on this, pretty sure he goes through 370s pretty well, selling them at least

It's funny. The only person who has randomly come up to me and asked about the model of my car and got it correct was a 10 year old kid. Everyone thinks it's a 350.

I agree with the other posts on how this car really doesn't need alot of advertising, it sells itself. The type of people who buy this car know about it from sources other than TV adverts and such. How often do you see commercials for Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, Genesis Coupe, etc.? It's more of a niche market for sports cars especially in these economic times.

im sure he is one of the hundreds of team members that did well to design this car.

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Thanks for the observation on "environmental" cars. I used to work for the People's Republic of Palo Alto in California, home to some of the most radical environmentalists in the country. They are a smug, angry and sanctimonious bunch to say the least. I was driving a 66 Sport Fury 440 and they yelled profane comments at me saying I was destroying the earth, threw rocks and even a bottle at me (I gave chase...while still in the car), and tried to force all city employees to leave their cars home on "Car Out" days. What is funny is, some of these people drive an electric car to "protect the environment" and when I asked them the source of the electricity, they said an outlet! They couldn't comprehend that most electricity is generated by burning coal. The more electricity used, the more coal that is burned...I believe I offended them because I punctured their smugness...rock on

I'm :excited: that I almost never see another 370Z.

So true, Steve!

The only time I see 370Z's in advertisements is like the commercial where the guy stretches his Z into a Maxima after he learns a baby is on the way. And other times, the Z has been featured in generic Nissan ads, not unlike GM with the Corvette. They are marquee cars, meant to show off engineering, not make gobs of money. Only Porsche can do that since the badge alone costs $30 Grand.

Surely the economy plays a big roll when selling a car specially if its a sports car which requires someone who appreciate such a beauty. I had to wait 6 months to sell my ex e46 M3...!

No doubt. Modded cars take a nice hit as well. I sold my S for well under 20k, and it took months at that price.

at your modification level on your S2k your buyer pool is probably pretty small.

probably the reason Lou still has his 370TT

True, but who doesn't want want an 800 hp s2000 that's more reliable than most new cars? :rofl2:

Because Z4 is only a few grand more? And chicks digs BMW more than Nissan :D

As Jeremy Clarkson says: "If you drive the Nissan, you won't be invited to a wife swapping party."

Z: 31,200 - 47,730

Z4: 47,000 - 62,000

Just comparing base MSRP, I think 15k is more than a few grand.

but wife-swapping parties. You can't put a price on that.

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I stand corrected :(

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Actually, there's quite a bit of air time for the new Mustang V6.
Thinking about these economic times, the commercial focuses on the car's ability to make 300+HP while getting good gas mileage.

Just got a tank of gas at the local Citgo station. I went in and modestly told the kid, "Fillin' up the red sports car out there." He glanced up and said, "Oh, the red 350?" I chuckled and said, "No, red 370." He looked up and said, "No ****!," and ran over to the window for a better look and said "Beautiful car, man. That's the first 370 I've ever seen."
I guess we all have have to do our share to educate the public.

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if gas is 3.50 and it costs 45 dollars to fill up or if its 5.00 and it costs 65 to fill up, I am going to pay it...

there are so many other things that we bend over and get raped on, but people love to complain about gas...

as for the guy who wants a juke or altima. I just had a juke loaner and driving it spiritedly it got me about 22-23 around town and 30-33 hwy , my Z gets me 15-17 around town and 25-28 on the highway with my 4.08 final drive... not much difference where you will see any real gains...

get a early 90s civic to save gas/money

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European nations pay more for gas in part because they have the VAT (Valued Added Tax) and socialist governments that don't believe in freedom. They don't believe in allowing their people to decide what, when, and how they drive but coerce them into accepting their vision of what people should do through tax codes and policies. It forces the masses to comply, meaning they are not free, but naturally the wealthy and ruling classes can still afford the gas. If someone wants to pay more, then give the clerk more money but leave the rest of us alone. What on earth happened to the rugged individualist? (They are driving the Z?)

I think some may forget that the Z was never intended to be a mass sales car. Nissan expects to sell about 10,000 Z's a year. The 370 has met those numbers. Nissan can't afford to buy expensive network time to advertise a car that sells less than 1,000 units a month.

In terms of people recognizing the car, mostly I get "That's a really beautiful car". I don't care if they know any more. I can't tell the difference between Lambo's or other super cars. Other sports car owners know what a 370Z is.

Personally, I like having a "mystery" car.

Funny you should mention that. I bought a 2010 Prius in July of 2009. I traded it in for a 2010 370Z in September of 2010. It was an expensive trade but the simple fact is that I hated to drive the Prius. Yes, I got 45mpg, and yes it had adaptive cruise control, steering assist, automatic parking, blah blah blah. The simple fact was that it was absolutly no fun to drive. None. So now gas costs me twice as much, but I am enjoying my daily drive to work. The Prius was absolutely numb. Pickup wasn't bad, but if you drove it hard, mileage went down into the 30's mpg. But it was still totally boring. I never regret that move.

Interestingly, the other day when I was returning to my car from a store, a woman was putting a package into her 2010 Prius. She looked over and said, "That's a really beautiful car". I thanked her and told her I traded a 2010 Prius to get my Z. She replied, "Looking at your car I was thinking that I should do that too. This thing is no fun to drive."

It comes down to values. Does economy trump pleasure. My vote is NO!
By the way, my Z is in the shop today getting some of the clear bra replaced (minor parking lot damage). I rented a G37 from Enterprise. It's a very interesting feeling, getting out of the Z and right into the G37. I know the two cars share a lot of parts. It's immediately obvious. It's also less fun to drive than the Z. Nice car, virtually identical cabin tech, but slower and tuned much more conservatively. Yup, I made the right choice.

Their business case called for 25k units a year.

I believe it was actually 30k. I remember talking to the marketing director for the 370Z at ZDayZ last year. He said they all thought Nissan Corporate was crazy as they were projecting 30k units to sell a year (like the 350Z) while everyone in North America thought it would be significantly less than that.

Surely enough they had to cut production as there was only demand for about 10,000 units a year.

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The reason I didn't buy one is because I view it as underpowered in today's $40K sports-car world.

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Definitely agree with the "mystery" car appeal. When I was looking into buying a sports car, I was comparing the 370 to the Ford Mustang GT and the Hyundai Genesis coupe.

I just didn't like the Genesis enough to buy one, and the Mustang has this "everyday sports car" look to me. I wanted something unique, rare, uncommon - something that draws attention simply because it's the opposite of ubiquitous. That was the appeal of the 370 to me - that fact that there aren't as many 370s around makes it more attractive.

I think that if dealers really had a hard enough time selling 370s that Nissan would start to give incentives, which they're not doing for the 370Z or the GT-R, at least as of a week ago when I bought mine. :driving:

They projected 30,000, but the project was approved based on 25k as a minimum. Oops....

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