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Inspector71 04-04-2011 03:26 PM

Me too
 
I get the 350Z all the time as well. If you want to be one of the rare few, the Kansas City area seems to be it. I have to look at mine to see another one and its an 09. It gets better gas mileage than my 86 RX7 5spd did with its 146 hp rotary engine.

cossie1600 04-04-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1032280)
true that. since im saving up for my kids' tuition, it's several grand each month im using as operation cost for them and savings...

i understand, but a 5 bux increase is not hyper inflation, not anywhere close to what we have to pay extra in education, insurance, housing, gas, energy.

kielbasa16 04-04-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1032284)
It isn't merely a new gen, if you look at it technically, since they share almost zero parts.

However, they are still almost identical in design and performance, with the 370 being an improvement in both, imo.

I think to the average consumer it comes off as just a new gen. Im no Mustang guru so I refer to them as the "new" or "old" Mustang on the road.

shadoquad 04-04-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kielbasa16 (Post 1032328)
I think to the average consumer it comes off as just a new gen. Im no Mustang guru so I refer to them as the "new" or "old" Mustang on the road.

I understand that public perception may lead to that, sure, but the general public aren't car enthusiasts either, which is :rofl2: and :crying: all at the same time. :bowrofl:

eddieconfetti 04-04-2011 03:52 PM

I feel like getting a fuel effiecient car/slow car is not really that fuel efficient or w.e. I had a 2008 altima 2.5s sedan before i got the z. I know i ate more gas in that car just because the car was too damn slow. i would have to floor it to drive with the crowd. But in the z you dont have to floor it. Just a little acceleration and you have already driven like a half a mile.

onzedge 04-04-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1032276)
i am with you, the 370 is pretty much a 2nd gen 350.

Please don't post while high or drunk. Thank you.

wdkwang 04-04-2011 04:16 PM

I don't think getting a second beater like an altima is worth it. You have the cost of the car that's several thousand already, plus insurance, plus the gas for it too. Unless you can get a dirt cheap car with 30-35mpg, then sure it'll balance out eventually.

And the 370z says rawrrrr

kenchan 04-04-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1032387)
Please don't post while high or drunk. Thank you.

:icon18::tup:

Cmike2780 04-04-2011 04:32 PM

The service tech at my Nissan dealership refered to my car as a 350z, how sad is that? :facepalm:

wilsonp 04-04-2011 04:50 PM

Somehow I am reminded of Top Gear's test of the BMW versus the Prius - if you want good gas mileage, get a powerful car and just drive it like it is a Prius.

OTOH, if you try to drive your low power car like a 370Z, you won't be saving much gas :)

As for the snowbelt, I bet you knew where you lived before you bought a 370Z, so don't blame us :D (And I am switching back to the RE050's this week as the last <32 night should be Wednesday.)

I think we are lucky the 370Z just has to pay for the incremental cost since so many parts are shared with the 370Z and other cars, and I hope that means the group will continue.

Of course, with the Nismo and IPL models being too close to badge engineering, I don't think that helps Nissan's overall cause like AMG or M models do.

theART 04-04-2011 05:34 PM

I don't know the stats compared to 350z sales or what Nissan foretasted sales were for 2009/2010 model.

HOWEVER there is one thing I know for sure

If Nissan had spent a little more time on DESIGN (looks) of the 370z it would sell much better.

onzedge 04-04-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theART (Post 1032561)
I don't know the stats compared to 350z sales or what Nissan foretasted sales were for 2009/2010 model.

HOWEVER there is one thing I know for sure

If Nissan had spent a little more time on DESIGN (looks) of the 370z it would sell much better.

I repeat my comment to an earlier poster. Please, please, I think it is a mistake to post comments on this forum when drunk, high, tweaking, stoned or tripping. Thank you and just say no. It's one day at a time, brother.

UNKNOWN_370 04-04-2011 05:49 PM

The only sports car out there that is as nice or nicer in looks than the 370 is the camaro. The only appearance weakness the Z has is in the grille. That can easily be taken care of by removing the bottom lip and adding the appropriate chin spoiler. :)

In the end looks are subjective.

christian370z 04-04-2011 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1032306)
i understand, but a 5 bux increase is not hyper inflation, not anywhere close to what we have to pay extra in education, insurance, housing, gas, energy.

You are right, it is not hyper right now. But within the next couple decades, the US won't even be able to afford to pay interest on its loans. Meanwhile, the US continues to print money to pay off its own debt, and can do so because the US dollar is the main currency being traded and bought. Since the US government is the largest holder of its own debt and is printing money to pay itself back, that sounds like a recipe for rapid inflation to me.

shoopajae10 04-04-2011 05:54 PM

we're all screwed!!!!!

theART 04-04-2011 06:01 PM

You got to admit they did a piss poor job by selecting a design from a local homeboy out of Surrey BC.

Q: What car manufacturer runs a "contest" for next car design?
A: The one that has no money or imagination, NISSAN

Montez 04-04-2011 06:04 PM

Lol, after I posted earlier I went to lunch and stopped for gas. I had a guy ask me how I like my "350" and he is thinking about getting one, he was in a 98-02 Z28..........

theART 04-04-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montez (Post 1032628)
Lol, after I posted earlier I went to lunch and stopped for gas. I had a guy ask me how I like my "350" and he is thinking about getting one, he was in a 98-02 Z28..........

PWNED himself without even knowing

fullmonty 04-04-2011 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theART (Post 1032620)
You got to admit they did a piss poor job by selecting a design from a local homeboy out of Surrey BC.

Q: What car manufacturer runs a "contest" for next car design?
A: The one that has no money or imagination, NISSAN

Don't like how it looks don't buy it. And I'm pretty sure the guy who designed it wasn't a gangsta off the street but a Nissan Designer.

shadoquad 04-04-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 1032704)
Don't like how it looks don't buy it. And I'm pretty sure the guy who designed it wasn't a gangsta off the street but a Nissan Designer.

Yeah it was. He had on a hooker-skin suit. Name was Leroy Nissan.

b1adesofcha0s 04-04-2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddieconfetti (Post 1032363)
I feel like getting a fuel effiecient car/slow car is not really that fuel efficient or w.e. I had a 2008 altima 2.5s sedan before i got the z. I know i ate more gas in that car just because the car was too damn slow. i would have to floor it to drive with the crowd. But in the z you dont have to floor it. Just a little acceleration and you have already driven like a half a mile.

What your talking about there is power buddy :icon17:

The Z has more power and it takes more gas to produce it. Even though you're flooring it in the altima, you're still using less gas.

b1adesofcha0s 04-04-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1032708)
Yeah it was. He had on a hooker-skin suit. Name was Leroy Nissan.

Werd, das ma homeboy right dere. :tup:

shabarivas 04-04-2011 06:51 PM

I for one welcome the increase in gas prices... you think we have it bad @ 4 a pop? Wake up and smell the **** around you...

Perfectly developed nations pay 2-3 times what we do for gas... why? because they need to give incentives to alternate fuel / public transport - what do we do? sell hummers cheaper at the dealership than they are in a nevada strip club... what do you expect?

Honestly - I have been enjoying having the roads to myself too - my commutes are more painless and there are less idiots on the road - honestly a change I welcome and a change for which I will gladly pony up a couple of extra bucks a gallon for. I honestly think this country is lazy and ignorant enough to sit on its *** and watch as other countries adopt alternate transportation - this will make us think. Every time you spend a 100 bucks on a full tank of gas - you will really want to go get that electric car / carpool / take a bus. Think about it - there will always be balance in the world and our time of sipping on free gas is coming to an alarming halt...

sonic370 04-04-2011 07:07 PM

not comparing the two.but Chevrolet doesn't advertise the corvette much either. the last 370 ad i saw on tv was the one about the guy having a baby
and he walks out to his garage and turns his 370 into a altima......

Montez 04-04-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 1032808)
not comparing the two.but Chevrolet doesn't advertise the corvette much either. the last 370 ad i saw on tv was the one about the guy having a baby
and he walks out to his garage and turns his 370 into a altima......

He stretched into a Max!:tup:

sonic370 04-04-2011 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montez (Post 1032812)
He stretched into a Max!:tup:

sorry your right

Brazilbro 04-04-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 1032759)
Perfectly developed nations pay 2-3 times what we do for gas... why? because they need to give incentives to alternate fuel / public transport -
Wrong. I believe its because they TAX there gas more

I honestly think this country is lazy and ignorant enough to sit on its *** and watch as other countries adopt alternate transportation -
what alternative transportation are you talking about? Buses? metro?
Have you rode on a bus is a populated area. I rode buses for years in Brazil and believe me don't want to trade riding in your own car with a/c and music and all the comforts it offers

there will always be balance in the world and our time of sipping on free gas is coming to an alarming halt...

Free gas?? I never knew it was free. The only balance outa wack right now is that more of the world is using oil and we don't produce our own so we have to buy from other which has worked ok in the past when our dollar was worth something

cossie1600 04-04-2011 11:53 PM

Wait till they run out of oil, just calm down.

Niche79 04-04-2011 11:55 PM

This topic nails home with ppl trying to buy older gas sippers for loads more than they are worth. Get offers nonstop saying how much for your older 91 prelude. Guy from work with a tahoe said name a price and ill take it. I said 3k! Thats over book and hes like ok but of course never brought the money. Last time gas was 4 bucks and change a gallon, I remember the old metro's and ford aspires were going for thousands! When normally they were worth maybe 800? haha I think the general Z owner has a bit more cash and on top of that, they have another car thats their DD.

Good topic though.

cossie1600 04-05-2011 12:04 AM

People are stupid to pay that much money for an old econobox, there are a lot of people with no brains out there.

Husky Downs 04-05-2011 12:07 AM

My Take Is This Guys...
 
A. Would you rather have a chick who gives you the best sex of your life - a true freak, but can't cook to save her life, doesn't clean, is a bitch 24/7, is a gold digger, but is drop dead gorgeous.

Or...

B. A girl who is decent in the sack, cleans, cooks, is pretty - not drop dead gorgeous, is a real friend, doesn't do oral - but is open to "other" things and let's you play video games as long as you want, and is content with being middle class; doesn't need to live like one of the Kardashians.

Not a tough decision, least not for me - B is the clear winner.

"B" is basically the "Z" and maybe can even be lumped into sports cars in general. In a time when gas is so expensive and it's getting tough to justify spending $85 to fill up the tank every 7 days (minimum), the "Z" and sports car in general like somebody above stated, all things considered is a pretty efficient car - gas wise.

So while everybody out there is walking around with their "trophy" wives, they see us (Z and Sports Car owners alike) and they envy us. Sure they get some perks with their wives, but as a whole - we are MUCH happier and they are dying inside wishing they were as happy as we all are.

Weird analogy, but I see it this way. It's like, people can drive their Prius' (which actually hurt the environment more than a Civic) or their Chevy Volt etc. to save gas, but are they TRULY happy in it? Sure it saves them on gas (i.e. great sex, beautiful etc.), but does it feel like a Z or sports car? Does it look like one? Handle like one?

If gas were $8 a gallon, ask yourselves this question, if you're a Z/sports car owner - would you REALLY get rid of your ride to give in to the times?

NOT ME!

I'd adapt and like some of you have stated above, I'd find other means to get to and from, but NEVER would I consider getting rid of my Z or sports car. And if I couldn't afford two cars - I'd find a way TO afford the gas by giving up other things that cost me on a daily/monthly/weekly/yearly basis. After all, we are Z owners damn it and all these people with their electric cars, solar cars, flux capacitor vehicles, trucks, Hybrid's and so on will eventually get rid of their cars for the next best thing (kind of like people who try DROID then the iPhone and realize how awesome iOS truly is LOL).

As for us - WE WON'T - because unlike them, our cars are INSTANT classics. We have a sense of pride and loyalty in a way these others simply cannot appreciate. And when sh*t hits the fan one day and all the car company's abandon gasoline because it's $20 a gallon - I trust that Nissan will make a Z which will go with the times and that too will be an instant classic. Because we understand this - we will own it and in the end, in the grand scheme of things guys, even though gas is just about $5 a gallon now, it's what - $15-$20 more total than what we're used to paying?

Guys, we spend that on ******** every week. Some of us are smokers (not I), some of us are pot heads (not I), some of us are addicted to video games (maybe me) etc. Whatever our vice is, if we budget correctly and FIND that extra $15-$20 a week for gas, TO ME that's a great trade-off.

So while everybody else is buzzing by at 60 MPH in their jelly bean, space ship looking hybrid's and "so called" environmental friendly vehicles - we'll ZOOM! by them IN STYLE...

BECAUSE DAMN IT! WE ARE Z OWNERS - IT'S NOT A CULT, IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT, NOR IS IT A FAD...IT'S A CHOICE WE MADE...LIKE OUR Z FOREFATHER'S BEFORE US WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR US TODAY...

IT'S A WAY OF LIFE!


LMAO!!!!!!! Okay, I'm done ranting.

cossie1600 04-05-2011 12:27 AM

Wow, I am speechless

Z_ealot 04-05-2011 12:28 AM

i'd ride a bicycle the 10 miles to my place of work if i needed to save money on gas before the thought of even getting rid of a Z entered my head, then again thats just me, i budget to the extreme when i want to keep something i really want lol.

nuTinmuch 04-05-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theART (Post 1032620)
You got to admit they did a piss poor job by selecting a design from a local homeboy out of Surrey BC.

Q: What car manufacturer runs a "contest" for next car design?
A: The one that has no money or imagination, NISSAN

You do realize Nissan is taking more design risks than anyone else these days, correct?

m4a1mustang 04-05-2011 08:10 AM

Manufacturers spend money on advertising when it's worth it to do so. Would NISSAN see any real gain if they ran a bunch of ads dedicated to the 370? Unlikely.

With regard to televison, GM doesn't advertise the Corvette much at all. Ford really never advertises the Mustang... the one exception being the commercial for the V6 (touting it's fuel economy because that's what sells these days).

The 370 is one of those cars you either want or you don't want. You usually know before you even drive it that you're going to buy it. For a product like that you're better off buying a few print ads in some magazines that your target demographic would read. The first 370Z advert I saw was a print spread in a January '09 issue of GQ.

onzedge 04-05-2011 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1033537)
Manufacturers spend money on advertising when it's worth it to do so. Would NISSAN see any real gain if they ran a bunch of ads dedicated to the 370? Unlikely.

With regard to televison, GM doesn't advertise the Corvette much at all. Ford really never advertises the Mustang... the one exception being the commercial for the V6 (touting it's fuel economy because that's what sells these days).

The 370 is one of those cars you either want or you don't want. You usually know before you even drive it that you're going to buy it. For a product like that you're better off buying a few print ads in some magazines that your target demographic would read. The first 370Z advert I saw was a print spread in a January '09 issue of GQ.

:iagree:

SiXK 04-05-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky Downs (Post 1033341)
A. Would you rather have a chick who gives you the best sex of your life - a true freak, but can't cook to save her life, doesn't clean, is a bitch 24/7, is a gold digger, but is drop dead gorgeous.

Or...

B. A girl who is decent in the sack, cleans, cooks, is pretty - not drop dead gorgeous, is a real friend, doesn't do oral - ...


Looks like its "A" for me.

shoopajae10 04-05-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky Downs (Post 1033341)
A. Would you rather have a chick who gives you the best sex of your life - a true freak, but can't cook to save her life, doesn't clean, is a bitch 24/7, is a gold digger, but is drop dead gorgeous.

Or...

B. A girl who is decent in the sack, cleans, cooks, is pretty - not drop dead gorgeous, is a real friend, doesn't do oral - but is open to "other" things and let's you play video games as long as you want, and is content with being middle class; doesn't need to live like one of the Kardashians.

Not a tough decision, least not for me - B is the clear winner.

"B" is basically the "Z" and maybe can even be lumped into sports cars in general. In a time when gas is so expensive and it's getting tough to justify spending $85 to fill up the tank every 7 days (minimum), the "Z" and sports car in general like somebody above stated, all things considered is a pretty efficient car - gas wise.

So while everybody out there is walking around with their "trophy" wives, they see us (Z and Sports Car owners alike) and they envy us. Sure they get some perks with their wives, but as a whole - we are MUCH happier and they are dying inside wishing they were as happy as we all are.

Weird analogy, but I see it this way. It's like, people can drive their Prius' (which actually hurt the environment more than a Civic) or their Chevy Volt etc. to save gas, but are they TRULY happy in it? Sure it saves them on gas (i.e. great sex, beautiful etc.), but does it feel like a Z or sports car? Does it look like one? Handle like one?

If gas were $8 a gallon, ask yourselves this question, if you're a Z/sports car owner - would you REALLY get rid of your ride to give in to the times?

NOT ME!

I'd adapt and like some of you have stated above, I'd find other means to get to and from, but NEVER would I consider getting rid of my Z or sports car. And if I couldn't afford two cars - I'd find a way TO afford the gas by giving up other things that cost me on a daily/monthly/weekly/yearly basis. After all, we are Z owners damn it and all these people with their electric cars, solar cars, flux capacitor vehicles, trucks, Hybrid's and so on will eventually get rid of their cars for the next best thing (kind of like people who try DROID then the iPhone and realize how awesome iOS truly is LOL).

As for us - WE WON'T - because unlike them, our cars are INSTANT classics. We have a sense of pride and loyalty in a way these others simply cannot appreciate. And when sh*t hits the fan one day and all the car company's abandon gasoline because it's $20 a gallon - I trust that Nissan will make a Z which will go with the times and that too will be an instant classic. Because we understand this - we will own it and in the end, in the grand scheme of things guys, even though gas is just about $5 a gallon now, it's what - $15-$20 more total than what we're used to paying?

Guys, we spend that on ******** every week. Some of us are smokers (not I), some of us are pot heads (not I), some of us are addicted to video games (maybe me) etc. Whatever our vice is, if we budget correctly and FIND that extra $15-$20 a week for gas, TO ME that's a great trade-off.

So while everybody else is buzzing by at 60 MPH in their jelly bean, space ship looking hybrid's and "so called" environmental friendly vehicles - we'll ZOOM! by them IN STYLE...

BECAUSE DAMN IT! WE ARE Z OWNERS - IT'S NOT A CULT, IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT, NOR IS IT A FAD...IT'S A CHOICE WE MADE...LIKE OUR Z FOREFATHER'S BEFORE US WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR US TODAY...

IT'S A WAY OF LIFE!


LMAO!!!!!!! Okay, I'm done ranting.


Im ready for battle!!!!!!

christian370z 04-05-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky Downs (Post 1033341)
So while everybody else is buzzing by at 60 MPH in their jelly bean, space ship looking hybrid's and "so called" environmental friendly vehicles - we'll ZOOM! by them IN STYLE...

Ahahahaha, that's awesome!

b1adesofcha0s 04-05-2011 11:13 AM

You can be environmentally friendly and still have style + performace.

Porsche 918 HYBRID

http://www.techood.com/wp-content/up...918_spyder.jpg


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