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Any regrets on choice of transmission
This is not meant as a poll just a quick answer........
I had a 05 350 with 6 MT I now have a 09 with 7AT. If you bought the AT and once had the MT do you ever miss the MT? I would have to say yes there are plenty of times when i wish for the MT mainly when i won't or need more control of the car.... Driving the AT between 0to50 can get boring. imho |
You have opened a can of worms here. I had a 2004 350 6mt and now have a 09 370 7at.
I WAY prefer the 7at and have just as much control as an mt just by shifting into manual mode. My line pressures are bumped up through osiris and I am happy. |
If you have canyons the AT in manual mode does the trick but no way in hell im I going to buy a AT sportscar where I live.
I prefer AT over MT on lux sedans cruising at night though. Enjoy city lights, smooth jazz, and just sitback. :) |
Nope. You should have polled this one, mate!
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Neither of you have had or do have the 7at......so how can you offer a valid opinion?
Just sayin......... |
I love to have a manual trans but with all the traffic in Atlanta there was no way I was going to buy anything but 7at.:rock:
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MT for life (well at least on a sports car) As much as the 7at is cool you still have a massive torque converter going around and around in there and it will never have that direct feeling of a stick. Not trying to start sh*t but the auto was only put into cars like vetts Z's and other sports cars for women. (not saying women cant drive stick, my mom taught me)
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I'm pretty sure you're going to get nothing but strong opinions, sonic. The "I will NEVER get a sports car with an AT" crowd is fairly stubborn, myself included. I wouldn't even test drive a car with one.
I won't try to speak for others, but I realize I am becoming a bit of a dinosaur on this issue. Ferrari, Porsche, and even Nissan don't offer MT on some sports cars because they don't maximize performance. I also realize Nissan could not appeal to the range of enthusiasts without offering an AT. They know we aren't all tracking the car, and some of us suffer through stop and go city traffic everyday. So, to each their own :tiphat:, even though MT is way better, and my Z could beat up your Z :stirthepot: ;) |
no regrets. some people like to shift and some people don't like to shift. i like to shift.
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The AT in the cars you mentioned are alot different then the one in the Z correct? As much as I would rather get the new GTR in a good old 6spd even if it ment a few ticks slower but the only way it comes is with the flappy pedal tranny. |
I am very happy with my 6MT and would have it no other way. Here are the reasons behind why I prefer a manual transmission:
-Much more direct in feel both in power delivery and drivability -Can handle more power reliably -Suit the character of the Z -Provides a level of driver involvement I believe an AT can never replicate The 6MT in the 370z is not the most refined gear box but I love it, however I have to say the 7AT is very good at what it does. |
The first time I test drove the 370z it was an auto. I disliked it a lot because of the fact that I actually enjoy driving a sports car in manual. This is why I will never buy a GTR because of the paddle shifters. I may consider the paddle shifter if it was a Ferrari but other than that... never a auto for a sports car.
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future tech
I enjoy the 6 speed.
Interestingly high tech ATs seem to be all the rage. |
This thread will not end well, I fear. I can see religious arguments brewing again.
For what it's worth, I have a manual, I am a 3-pedal addict, and I love driving my car that way. I also know a number of automatic drivers who really enjoy their Z's. So, who am I to judge? As long as we're all enjoying the vehicle, drive it with whatever transmission you like! |
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With 0.5 second shift times and a high level of lock-up preventing torque converter slip, most drivers will likely post faster point-to-point times with the auto than the six-speed manual 370Z.
Quote from "The Motor report". |
So obviously this is a subjective thread and just mixed opinions and we've gone over this way too many times...
But what I did find interesting was that with a AT, even though you floor the pedal, between 0 to 60 you won't get WOT as there is a restriction programmed in and with the manual you do get WOT if you press the pedal all the way down... Obviously you can get rid of that by changing the flag in the ECU, but the reason the AT needs this is interesting.... :stirthepot: |
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Otherwise they would have stated (ALL drivers will post better times with the AT). Also pure speed isnt the only deciding factor for buying a car or choosing the transmission. If speed was the only deciding factor, you should have gone without the touring's added weight :) --------------------------------- either way im playing both sides of the fence. Alot of people post "opinion" as fact. although the real fact is this.. whatever makes the person who is paying for it, and driving it happy. And if people can't respect other people's decisions on that, then dont call yourself a car enthusiast, your just a arrogant jack. oh and thats my opinion, not a fact :p |
Cant wait to meet you at the Z1 get together. Bullits car is not the same Liter motor as mine anymore and not a fair comparison......that being said I would still go for it and you might be surprised. Until you ride in my TT 7AT you should hold your opinions. If you want to get an idea of how my car runs.......call John at Z1 and ask.
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And my opinion, if you read my entire post was that, all cars are good as long as the driver is happy with the choice they made? im happy with mine. your happy with yours. Some arent happy with theirs and will trade it. |
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i am pretty sure my car is not capable of shifting by itself. |
My last MT was a '07 Civic SI. It had a very smooth 6 speed. Light clutch and was a lot of fun. My Z is the 7at. I love it also. I have no regrets at all. I don't track my car but I do like to use the paddles and play.
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So If I could afford a GTR and not the Ferrari then I would just get a Z06. Don't get me wrong though. I love the GTR as much as anyone else here. |
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Back on topic...you own what you own because you like it. And more power to you. |
I had to transport a 7AT 370z for work at Nissan before and it was great, but mainly cause it was my first time in a 370z. The fun factor was there 100% but honestly the paddle shifters got boring pretty fast for me.
Fast forward, I bought a 6MT and haven't looked back. I drove an automatic Integra hand me down and knew I needed to get a stick shift for my next car. I've always felt way more connected driving a manual compared to an auto. +1 on automatics in luxury cars but it just doesn't feel right in a sports car. Everyone has their preference. It's easy to s*** on someone with an automatic sports car but who knows what their situation is. Perhaps it's an enthusiast with a bad left leg, or someone that loves Formula1 and wants a taste of paddle shifting, or maybe it's just another fat, lazy *** that can't drive stick for ****. On another note, I've been told a rumor that 2015 is the last year manuals will be put into cars. Manufacturers are going to be installing all automatics with the option of paddle shifters. My friend's shop will be running a good manual conversion business if this day every comes. |
being a tennis player, to me auto/dsg is like watching roger federer playing tennis on tv
and manual trans is like playing tennis. most decent tennis players would prefer playing a tennis match than watching tennis on tv. |
True sports car = MT
Thats why I picked MT. Much more responsive than AT. AT is just convenient/Women will prefer it. |
Nissan is selling both in good numbers, infact all over the middle east they just sell 7AT and manual is by order and people are buying it.
I bought 7AT, I do regret for not having a 6MT (specially when planning for SC) but I am really happy with the grearbox, and specially after getting the UPREV and changes they did to my gearbox I dont regret at all. My DD is 07 G35s with the previous 5At and there is a huge improvement in this current one over the old one. I feel when you are cruising on empty roads you feel you should had a manual but the amount of city traffic we have AT is a blessing |
I have no regrets going over the MT. I am MT all the way though. I can say I will never own an automatic unless they stop making any cars that are MT.
Every car I have ever used as my DD has been a MT ('80 toyota corola, '78 280Z, '06 Impreza, '10 370Z). I honestly hated it when I had to drive my dad's altima back in the day that was automatic. The only reason he got an automatic is she was his first kid driving and he wanted things to be easier for her so she could concentrate more on the road. He regrets his decision of buying an automatic as she ended up learning stick and now drives a 6 spd Versa. She is actually one of the few girls I know that can drive MT well. Even times when I am driving in heavy traffic I don't mind driving a MT as to be honest it helps keep me occupied while dealing with the traffic (lots of shifting/clutch work) instead of being bored out of my mind. |
My sports car gotta be a manual. My luxury car will be an auto. Glad I got my 6mt.
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I feel that a sports car should be a manual and nothing beats the driver experience of the 6-spd transmission. You feel in control and it's just plain fun to drive a stick. That being said, last week I parked on a hill and a jerk in a s#!$ car tried to see how close he could park to my car - about 1/4 inch, he probably hit me. I had to be very careful giving it gas and feathering the clutch to ensure I didn't roll into him. There was some clutch burn smell after I moved my car. That is the one time I wish I had an AT.
I would like to give the AT a try, but it wouldn't be my first choice. |
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I think he was refering to the transmission on the Ferrari over the GT-R and your views on each. |
To answer the OP's question. In the previous car (RX-8) I really regreted not getting the MT. The AT was better in traffic or when you just wanted to sit back. When you wanted to have some fun though, it felt like I was in an arcade game. Its just not the same and this will always be the downside to paddle shifters. You don't feel the gears and clutch when you shift. You can always make the car faster, but absolutely nothing can duplicate that feeling.
I'm not knocking the 370z AT at all. It's a lot easier to live with day to day. It's plenty reliable and shifts are quicker. Unless you've mastered the MT, the AT will be fasters. Just stomp and go. This is a stupid thing to argue over if you really think about it. Both have flaws and both have rewards. It's like choosing which leg to stand on is better. The answer is their both good :) |
OK here goes. I feel the need to be abused by 6mt people. My last high horsepower sports car was a 69 350 4 speed vette with a supercharger. Can you say stump puller? It was great fun to drop the hammer at 6000rpm and smoke the tires to the chord. But what sucked was driving through cities stop light to stop light. And would you believe that my clutch gave up? How did that happen? When I was at the the dealer looking at my car I wasn't interested in an at. But those paddle shifters drew me in. I love the 7at. I can drive in auto in cities and man. when I want to go through the gears, all 7 of them. I'm having great fun with my car and that is what matters. Get out and enjoy your car with whatever trans you have. I have no regrets.:ughdance:
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