Sports Car, I prefer the 6mt even though automatics and dual clutch trannys can now shift as fast or faster then I can I still prefer a manual transmission for the connection with the car.

well i didn't mean to :stirthepot: sorry to those i worded it wrong to.

it was not meant as a MTvsAT thing. we will never find common ground there.

NFLvsNFLPA kind of thing. i was just trying to find out if those of us that had
MT and went over to the dark side AT had any regrets sometimes.

and sometimes when i'm out on a spirited run in certain places i do miss it.....

Nope, no regrets here.

They have only done ONE other 370 TT besides mine. Yes, they have done many other TTs, but you cant compare them to the 370 (even the 350 TT) because of the VVEL.

The 7AT got a bad name on this forum because ONE person, yes only ONE, put a SC on a very high mile 370, and blew their tranny. No one knows why REALLY, but we do know, if you put FI on any high mile car you most likely will have trouble.

Most people on this forum act like we are talking about trannys in the 60's or 70's and we are not. AT's have come along way since then and are minimally equal when applied correctly in a sports cars. Again, when done correctly, the days of slush boxs are over.

I have had many MT sports cars in my life and prefer the 7AT. I have FI on my car and most drivers (if not all) would struggle to keep up with my turbos when shifting in a 1/4 mile race. Even expert drivers would have trouble shifting as fast as my TUNED 7AT.

For the record, I have nothing against the 6MT. For me, the 7AT is faster for what I want to do.

Bingo ty. Dont let one persons misery make you think everyone hates the 7at. Some people have had issues with the manual tranny too. Doesnt mean either is trash. Heck every car company has issues. Every component has issues sometimes with their stuff.

I do like the 7at in the z's. But it just wasnt for me. I have an automatic car in my other car that i purchased as my dd.

Oh for the fools who are saying that true sports car = mt, im sorry i was not aware that the gtr.... Ferrari 458..... Veyron.... Are fake sports cars. My bad ill remember that next caffeine and octane so i can tell the owners and laugh at em

No offense, but you gotta stop thinking people here are bagging on the 7AT. I've noticed the contrary actually. We get it, your car is fast and will shift faster. No one here is aguing the performance aspects. It may not be your intent to have something against MT owners, but it sure looks like you want us to look inferior. Have fun with your TUNED 7AT, that's all that matter in the end :tiphat:

Just throwing in my experience here, maybe there are others here like me. I have the 7AT and have never driven a manual. I never had any real opportunity to learn how to drive manual. No one I have known has had a manual that they would be willing to teach me to drive in. When it came to buying my Z (my first sports car) I didn't want to buy a $30k sports car that I couldn't drive. I could have risked buying the 6MT for the fun factor, but that would also mean risking me ruining the clutch. That is something I can't really afford right now. This is why I went for the 7AT. I have driven automatics all my life and this one is so much better than the others. I have fun with my paddle shifters and that is good enough for me. I don't regret my decision at all. For all you guys with the 6MT :tup: I wish I could see things from your side.

I have a 7AT and I'm completely happy with my choice, yeah sometimes I get a bit of an urge to have a MT instead, but I wouldn't call it regret... I'm happy with my tranny.

oh and a big lol @ the people saying they wouldn't get cars like a GTR because they don't have a manual gearbox. Double clutch ftw.

no no no toxik, dont lol at the people sayingi t, go find a gtr owner and lol at him!

like "HAHAHAH your automatic GTR isnt a sports car like my honda civic SI with the 5 speed manual tranny!"
:shakes head:

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The GT-R owner will reply "You're right, my automatic GT-R isn't a sports car...its a supercar FTW!!!"

I definitely don't regret getting the 6MT. To me it just feels more interactive. If the 7AT was actually a dual clutch type transmission then I would probably want that instead of the conventional automatic but only if the 6MT wasn't offered anymore. Regardless of which one is really faster, the 6MT is just more fun to drive to me.

Threads like these are like siren's call for ignorant douche bags lol. Thanks for starting this thread, quite an entertaining read for an uneventful Sunday afternoon!

PS - 6mt all the way ;)

:tup: nice write up!!!!

Those are very valid reasons to go with the automatic! Nissan builds excellent quality automatic trannies!

Thanks! I get people telling me all the time that I should've gotten in manual. Some people actually go as far as making fun of me for getting an auto. It's always someone with a crappy car so my response is "My auto with the paddle shifters can shift faster than you bro, get back to me when you get a real performance car."

I'm old school. It's gotta have a clutch pedal!
Driving a manual is just so much more "involved" than driving an automatic. Are twin-clutch, DSG gearboxes faster than a human being? Sure they are, but you miss out on "feeling" the car as you slip the clutch and manage power delivery to control wheelspin on a launch... and that's just one example of the things that technology takes out of the driving experience.

I know a guy who drives Ferraris and trades up every couple of years. I remember back in 1997 how excited I was to try out his new 355F1 that he traded his manual 355 convertible on. The car with new transmission was novel for a bit, but it didn't feel as magical as moving that lever through the gates in the convertible. Something was missing.

Someday I'll be forced into having an automatic in whatever new sports car I purchase and I'm sure it will be faster at shifting than I am, but I'll be a little hurt that I'm becoming somewhat less necessary in the driving process.


Oh, to answer the OP, no regrets on my decision.

OK, the GT-R comparison has some up several times here. I even brought it up myself as an example of how performance cars are moving to AT for quicker times.

The GT-R is a street legal racing car ("super car" is the term, right?). Not in the same class as the Z. No well informed car guy is going to walk up to a GT-R owner and bash them for having an AT. Even if they wanted to, the excessive drool would prevent the words from coming out. :yum:

It seems that for the most, part, Z owners know what they want in terms of transmission, and are happy with their choice. So I think sonic's initial question has been answered:

"No". :rolleyes:

Doesn't make a difference in my opinion though. Even if the GTR had some miracle transmission and can shift between gears in less than .00001 second, I would still take a Ferrari over the GTR. My point is that overall, the Ferrari is a much sexier car than a GTR.

since the lowest priced ferrari (458 italia) is $225,000
the question should be would you take one ferrari over
two nissan GT-Rs, one nissan 370z, and one nissan juke (they add up to $225,000).

I would take two nissan GT-Rs, one nissan 370z, and one Nissan juke :)

Since we're playing the "I Won the Lottery" fantasy game, I'll chime in.
Quality over quantity. One Ferrari, please. Besides, why would I want two GT-Rs?

easy
one for daily driving,
one for the weekends.

if you only have a $225k ferrari to drive, you are going to have serious problems unless you're so loaded that you don't care what happens to the car after you park it.

if one car is enough, one gt-r and $135k in the bank suit me fine.

Right.
Let's get back to reality here for those of us who drive 370Z's and maybe the occasional GT-R owner who hangs out on this forum (since I haven't noticed any Ferrari 458 owners posting).

Any regrets?

None. Perfect. Exactly what I wanted.

I agree with your entire post!:tiphat:

It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Some Ferrari's are sexy, others not so much. The Italia is gorgeous, but previous offerings were either OK or just plain ugly. Some people can't get past the badge and who could blame them. For the record, I'd take an Italia over a GT-R any day of the week.... for a 612 scaglietti, I'd have to think about it.

http://ccgm.co.uk/ferrari_612_scaglietti2004.jpg
It just seemed like you misread his post.

Copying is the sincerest form of flattery. Just look at the 2011 Dodge Charger R/T. If that's not an outright copy of a GTR, I don't know what is.

I wanted the 40th and didn't have a choice on transmission. No regrets at all.

nothing is special anymore anyways. to sell cars they would put paddle shifter's
on a yugo............... remember when push button starters were the rage....
now they are everywhere.....

How high mileage was that 370z that blew it's tranny? 100k?

No real regrets, but my clutch knee is killing me. I've driven manuals for 12+ years and my left knee seems to be paying the price for it. The damage may have come from something else, but I'm pretty sure it's all that driving.

Still. The Z is worth it, even with the daily pain. I'm sure the automatic would be close to providing as much fun, but I'm glad I went manual.

You probably have a weak knee. I've been driving manuals for almost 10 years now. Basically been driving manuals since I started driving. No problems with my knee.

lol I think it's funny whenever there is a transmission related thread (AT vs MT) people just start bashing each other for every little thing. Dude really? You're bashing the guy's knee. Something with MT guys and having the need to let everyone know that they got SKILL (and they can out-shift you)

My understanding is that the SC went on around 70,000 miles......ask Shumby for sure.

I know that the computer can shift faster than me, but I still like to be more involved in what's happening with the car.
Making us less necessary in the driving process is just one step closer to the machines becoming self aware and taking over.
Skynet FTW!

Sky net already took over Jeopardy. Hide your kids, hide your wife.

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Is this statement about the 0 to 60 WOT with the 7AT true? If so, what are the reasons the 7AT needs this restriction?

MT all the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Only on the stop and go traffic on the way home. Other than that even after not driving a manual for 10 years, Im loving it.

If you regret your transmission choice, your man card should be revoked.

Regret your AT? You should, you bought a sports car with an AT. Revoked.

Regret buying an MT? Get a Camry, nancy boy. Revoked.

;)