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ZYGOTE 02-22-2011 03:04 PM

Trading 370 for 5.0?
 
Hey guys, I wandered into a Ford dealership yesterday and ended up test driving a 5.0 Mustang w/ premium package - I came away very impressed. Before I left they offered me a killer deal on the car (I'd be paying about $40 less per month than on my Z). I didn't commit to anything, but I am VERY tempted to make the trade. I'm just curious as to what some of your thoughts are and if anyone else has made a similar trade?

cfweber 02-22-2011 03:11 PM

test drive
 
So, how does it handle?

And does it seem quicker?

Ford has a deal for this month I think( a grand off )

Interesting

TongMan 02-22-2011 03:15 PM

You'd be paying $40 less but your loan terms may have been extended an additional year. I think that the 5.0 is a really great car if you want the power and torque plus the rear seats. I wouldn't mind driving a 5.0 around, but I just love my 370z too much to make the trade. If you look at your car as just another vehicle, then do the trade. I see my 370z as a superbly rare well made sports car.

cheshirecat 02-22-2011 03:18 PM

Check the fine print- also, when you purchase a vehicle, don't worry about the monthly premiums right away. Focus on the actual trade in versus new purchase values.

The new v8 mustang is a great car, imo. It is not, however, a 2-seater sports car that carries the same bearing as a Z. If you need a back seat, get it. If not, grab some bolt-ons for the Z and call it a day.

Red__Zed 02-22-2011 03:41 PM

If you can get a good deal, do it.

370Z Purist 02-22-2011 03:44 PM

seems everyone is going the 5.0 route.
walk in there with some ideas on what you want for the trade... try to avoid committing until you've got good reasons, both because of the car and the financial aspect.

although if you need the rear seats, you should probably trade regardless of whether or not you're losing a lot of money.

Cmike2780 02-22-2011 03:50 PM

As much as I like the Mustang, I can't bring myself to ever own one. I see way to many people driving it in my area. Either car is a good choice so I would narrow it down to personal preference.

370Z Purist 02-22-2011 03:56 PM

The best part of owning a Z; exclusivity. It feels even better when people rubberneck even after it's been around for a couple years.

Actually, maybe not the best part. Still nice, though.

Viera 02-22-2011 04:00 PM

Ehh...was it that much more fun/exciting to drive than the Z? I'd wait it out for some time and if you still feel the same about it, go for it.

ZYGOTE 02-22-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfweber (Post 952876)
So, how does it handle?

And does it seem quicker?

Ford has a deal for this month I think( a grand off )

Interesting

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viera (Post 952968)
Ehh...was it that much more fun/exciting to drive than the Z? I'd wait it out for some time and if you still feel the same about it, go for it.

The power (especially down low) was head and shoulders above the Z. I'd still give the Z a slight edge in handling, but the Mustang didn't handle badly at all considering the solid rear axle. I also didn't expect the interior to be as nice as it was, the premium interior on the Mustang is right there with the Z.

I'd be getting the Mustang for 31.2k OTD, this is for a GT Premium with M/T. Sticker is just under 36k.

kenchan 02-22-2011 04:33 PM

is that the same car mustang got?

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 04:37 PM

I made the trade in September of last year and it was worth it. If you want the car and the numbers work out for you, go for it.

370Z Purist 02-22-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 953017)
is that the same car mustang got?

If I recall, he does have a 5.0.

spearfish25 02-22-2011 06:29 PM

Here are some tips I put together so I don't fall into traps during my next car purchase. Hope this is helpful for everyone:


Car Buying: Things to remember when purchasing

Drive the exact car you want. If a dealer doesn’t have the exact car, find one that does.
Ask for a take home test drive (keep the car for an evening). If they don’t allow it, settle for nothing less than a no-salesperson test drive. They can be distracting.
Don’t be bullied or pressured.
DO NOT SHARE DESIRED MONTHLY PAYMENTS or TRADE IN VALUES. Say you’re only looking to discuss purchase price and you want to hear what their trade value is.
The dealing isn’t over when you’re done with the sales person. Finance managers will push extended warranties, paint protection, etc. Also, carefully evaluate their rates. They will add a percentage point to the bank rate or use rates to steer you into other additional charges to make extra money.
Reply to bullying lines with mirrored answers. “This offer ends at the end of the month” gets “My purchase offer ends tonight.” “I have to put food on the table” -> “I have to keep food on the table.” “I have to check with my manager” -> “I have to check with my spouse”. “We’re already losing a lot of money on this deal” -> “I’m already losing a HELL of a lot of money on this deal.” “I have another offer, this car is in high demand” -> “They have this car down the street or I’ll just order one from someone else.”

Lug 02-22-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZYGOTE (Post 953015)
The power (especially down low) was head and shoulders above the Z. I'd still give the Z a slight edge in handling, but the Mustang didn't handle badly at all considering the solid rear axle. I also didn't expect the interior to be as nice as it was, the premium interior on the Mustang is right there with the Z.

I'd be getting the Mustang for 31.2k OTD, this is for a GT Premium with M/T. Sticker is just under 36k.

That's a pretty frikkin sweet deal. Bet they rtry to make it up on trade-in value though.

b1adesofcha0s 02-22-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 953248)
Here are some tips I put together so I don't fall into traps during my next car purchase. Hope this is helpful for everyone:


Car Buying: Things to remember when purchasing

Drive the exact car you want. If a dealer doesn’t have the exact car, find one that does.
Ask for a take home test drive (keep the car for an evening). If they don’t allow it, settle for nothing less than a no-salesperson test drive. They can be distracting.
Don’t be bullied or pressured.
DO NOT SHARE DESIRED MONTHLY PAYMENTS or TRADE IN VALUES. Say you’re only looking to discuss purchase price and you want to hear what their trade value is.
The dealing isn’t over when you’re done with the sales person. Finance managers will push extended warranties, paint protection, etc. Also, carefully evaluate their rates. They will add a percentage point to the bank rate or use rates to steer you into other additional charges to make extra money.
Reply to bullying lines with mirrored answers. “This offer ends at the end of the month” gets “My purchase offer ends tonight.” “I have to put food on the table” -> “I have to keep food on the table.” “I have to check with my manager” -> “I have to check with my spouse”. “We’re already losing a lot of money on this deal” -> “I’m already losing a HELL of a lot of money on this deal.” “I have another offer, this car is in high demand” -> “They have this car down the street or I’ll just order one from someone else.”

Great advice man! Thanks! :tup:

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 07:28 PM

Get your car appraised at Car Max before you accept a dealer trade as well. Always a good idea.

Red__Zed 02-22-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 953343)
Get your car appraised at Car Max before you accept a dealer trade as well. Always a good idea.

For sure. Every once in a while they will surprise you with a good offer. If nothing else, it gives you more room to negotiate if you don't have a trade in.

b1adesofcha0s 02-22-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 953343)
Get your car appraised at Car Max before you accept a dealer trade as well. Always a good idea.

Yeah, that might be a good idea. My cousin did that and he said Car Max usually gives you an offer that is more than a dealer trade, without the hassle of having to sell the car on your own.

NYBladeZ 02-22-2011 07:46 PM

As some have said if you can get a good deal do it! I've already driven 2 Stangs and while I wouldn't personally make the trade it is undeniable that the new 5.0 is very nice.

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 953369)
Yeah, that might be a good idea. My cousin did that and he said Car Max usually gives you an offer that is more than a dealer trade, without the hassle of having to sell the car on your own.

At the very least the dealer will (usually) match the CarMax appraisal.

Red__Zed 02-22-2011 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 953382)
At the very least the dealer will (usually) match the CarMax appraisal.

and raise the price of the new car to compensate:rofl2:

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 953388)
and raise the price of the new car to compensate:rofl2:

Negotiate the price of the new car before you work out the trade agreement.

MVPTonyD 02-22-2011 08:20 PM

quality > quantity

SPOHN 02-22-2011 08:31 PM

Don't be a trader. LOL

Ford stands for
Fourth on race day
Found on road dead
F&*K over rebuilt Dodge

PS, all in good fun.

dirtrat 02-22-2011 09:36 PM

I think a mustang is a boring car and they are a dime a dozen! Granted I understand you are getting the new one and it is supposed to be much improved but I didn't go that route because for one it's a Ford and Mustangs are so common on the road.

cc370z 02-22-2011 09:43 PM

I sold cars for a couple years and I can say it unless you plan on having the car for the full term on the loan. I really consider resale value when buying a car….. I can’t tell you how many people are upside down in there vehicles due in part to their car taking a big hit on the resale value of their car. I own a 1970 camaro and really wanted the new camaro. But I’m glad I didn’t buy, domestic cars don’t hold their value and now I see camaros everywhere too.

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cc370z (Post 953517)
I sold cars for a couple years and I can say it unless you plan on having the car for the full term on the loan. I really consider resale value when buying a car….. I can’t tell you how many people are upside down in there vehicles due in part to their car taking a big hit on the resale value of their car. I own a 1970 camaro and really wanted the new camaro. But I’m glad I didn’t buy, domestic cars don’t hold their value and now I see camaros everywhere too.

It's interesting you say that because the new Mustangs actually hold their resale values quite well. The 2011 Mustang actually took top honors in resale value in KBB's "high performance" category, which includes cars like the Camaro, 370, etc.

But you are right, it's always something you need to consider. If I buy new I make sure I always put down at least enough cash such that I am never underwater at any point during the loan.

Fire 02-22-2011 09:51 PM

OK I have to jump in. I am an avid car person. I have crewed a sprint car and owned a few cars of my own. Camaros, Corvettes, Firebirds, and others. I've attended a few car shows and get to the local cruise night about twice a month. I would never trade my 370z Roadster for a 5.0. Z's are few and far between and handle very well. 5.0's are everwhere and as you said a straight axle. Last year there was a Mustang at the cruise that the owner stated was a $100,000 special edition. I didn't see anything special and my car got more attention than his.This was prior to any mods being done. Ultimately it is your choice but for me it would be a no brainer.

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 09:53 PM

As the saying goes, "to each their own."

FWIW I know of no $100k "Special Edition" Mustangs out there. The owner must have been yanking your chain.

Red__Zed 02-22-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire (Post 953532)
OK I have to jump in. I am an avid car person. I have crewed a sprint car and owned a few cars of my own. Camaros, Corvettes, Firebirds, and others. I've attended a few car shows and get to the local cruise night about twice a month. I would never trade my 370z Roadster for a 5.0. Z's are few and far between and handle very well. 5.0's are everwhere and as you said a straight axle. Last year there was a Mustang at the cruise that the owner stated was a $100,000 special edition. I didn't see anything special and my car got more attention than his.This was prior to any mods being done. Ultimately it is your choice but for me it would be a no brainer.

100k special edition?:ugh2:


Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 953438)
Don't be a trader. LOL

Ford stands for
Fourth on race day
Found on road dead
F&*K over rebuilt Dodge

PS, all in good fun.

f***er only runs downhill!

Cmike2780 02-22-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 953537)
As the saying goes, "to each their own."

FWIW I know of no $100k "Special Edition" Mustangs out there. The owner must have been yanking your chain.

Sure there is. GT500KR
http://www.mustangheaven.com/stangsp...T500KR_top.jpg

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 953545)

Sigh. I hate modern Shelby with a passion.

Red__Zed 02-22-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 953545)

thats the 100k unspecial edition

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 10:09 PM

If it had Miata doors, $100k would be a bargain. The doors alone are worth millions.

shadoquad 02-22-2011 10:11 PM

I think Mustang's are fine cars, but I read somewhere that they'll give your children cancer. Just food for thought.

Disclaimer: may be fictitious.

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 953566)
I think Mustang's are fine cars, but I read somewhere that they'll give your children cancer. Just food for thought.

Their owners also have a habit of sexually abusing people with the initials A.S.

370Z Purist 02-22-2011 10:12 PM

All Hail The Almighty Miata Doors, the only forum meme to be constantly referenced whenever possible.
:roflpuke2:

shadoquad 02-22-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 953567)
Their owners also have a habit of sexually abusing people with the initials A.S.

Well, that's just one initial away from fun.

m4a1mustang 02-22-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 953570)
Well, that's just one initial away from fun.

Hey kid, will you help my find my lost puppy?


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