You're right. Did not see that you were responding to that one thing there.

The LS3 retails for $8200 and the VQ37 is around $8000, so my point still stands.

I have no issues with the handles or noise.

I think the car is quiet enough and more than livable (to be fair, I came from a roadster with straight 3 inch pipes and a bike though)

I actually like the look of the fangs.

Nissan listens to their wallet, or they would have put the oil cooler in the 370Z. They have no interest in fixing anything but the bottom line.

That goes for every car company out there except in relation to halo cars like the Z06, Viper, etc. that are more about image than profit.

Talk about an outdated car? The Corvette is near the top of that list. Actually a great car but I can't get past the awful seats.

Has never driven a 370Z = Troll verification complete.

How could I forget about the oil cooler! And I heard the brakes have issues, isn't that why one car magazine wrecked one? They fluid gets hot quickly and they lose power?

I expect every car to get refined every year. Slowly make it better.

U really are a Honda fanboy cause they are slow to improve things. :icon14:

Wrong again. I have driven 3 of them. Drove it when it first came out. Yellow Manual with Sport, but zero discount so I waited. Drove a used one a year later that the dealer called me on, it was a rattle box, but I don't know it's history.

Then I went back recently and drove the Automatic. I was expecting to see some changes for the 2011 - yet nothing.

And I will NEVER forget my test drive in the Z. The salesman said that the car can go a long way even though the gas gauge says E. We went about 2 miles and the car ran out of gas. So I got to sit in the car for 1 hour until someone from the dealer came by with a gas can.

So your troll verification sucks. I have been a member here for years. I like the car, but I am waiting for the refresh to change a few of the items I don't care for.

I guess you never complain about anything or want anything to change. That's fine with me. But I like progress, if I wanted things to stay the same I would buy a classic 240Z. Or maybe a 90's 300TT.

Actually, no. I was thinking of Porsche. I mentioned earlier, I have given up on Honda. After many years, they lost what made them special. Kill the Prelude, kill the NSX, kill the S2000, and build some hybrid CRZ designed to look like a CRX but have none of the charm? No thanks, I will go back to Honda when they figure out what consumers want.

The Porsche 911 hasn't "refreshed" in 40 years. The Z, I hope, will just continue incremental improvements of an incredibly good car.

I did say earlier that it looks perfect the way it is. I love the door handles, the fangs, the headlights, the tail lights, etc. The noise doesn't bother me at all. In my opinion, the only things they need to add in a refresh are a standard oil cooler and some more power. Who doesn't want more power?

I think it is a legitimate question, I'm looking to purchase one but I would hate to get the '11 version only to have some major revising going on for the '12 version.

Exterior wise, I don't care since I'll be slappin the amuse kit on anyway.

The 350Z really never changed, a little the front end and the hood in 2007 & 2008 due to the change of the to two intakes...

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I think that the question, "When is the next update or body style" is legit, but I don't think it's right to insult the car and (by proxy) the owners by calling it ugly and outdated. Clearly that's not a friendly way to start a thread.

This is such small beans. +1 to close.