I think that is more of a price thing like you mentioned. The same could be said of most cars that start in the low 40's and go up from there.

Still, the C5's and some of the older C6's are very popular with college-age people.

Seeing the number of people who keep spinning out and getting into accidents as soon as VDC is off, do we really need Nissan to add more power to the Z?:ugh2:

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Good point. :icon17:

It'd be a scary thought if most people here switched to Vipers. Those cars make twice the hp and tq of the Z, and they have no form of traction control whatsoever :eekdance:

Very true. A Viper will force you to grow up fast or it will kill you. :icon17:

Vipers are easy cars to mess up in. I have to admit, the fact that I realize I am not God's gift is why I went with a Z06 instead. They have a few nannies.

Not only did I do the cai/cbe on my Z, but i also did them on wifes' XC-70 wagon. A great sound and a little kick in the pants.Did I metion the improved mpg?::bowrofl:l:

I say keep the motor and HP on standard models were they are. But make a Nismo built with Turbos! yeah it cost more but then Nissan could really say, see we have a performance model. I would buy it!

WTF? I'm 54 and having a blast with my Z. There is no ideal age. To paraphrase "The Who"...I hope I die before I grow up!:stirthepot:

I've had my car for a year and the VDC has not been off once, and it kicks in on a very regular basis, the car is allowed to get just a bit sideways. With the financial responsibility of supporting a family of 5, it's not worth the risk of a bent $40k car, and I've bent a couple over the years by driving too aggressivley (admittedly when it's very cold and there is black ice). I used to drive my Camaro sideways all the time, but it just wasn't that big a deal if I smashed it.

Well you also don't want to smash yourself. ;)

Oh believe me, you'll still enjoy your car when you're 40+, if not more. I'm 40 and what holds me back from enjoying it much more is not having any time to drive it anywhere except work and home, with the career and family of 5. But when you're older you can afford vacations and track days, perhaps even driving tours in Europe, which is what I'm into. When you're older, you can also afford more cars, which is not possible at 26. I have a car for every occassion. The Z would not have worked for me as an only car at 26.

it depends. one of my friends is in his 40s. he got a divorce and has to pay child support. i think his days of driving nice cars are numbered.

I'm in my mid 40's, but I'm very immature. Just ask my wife. She tells me so all the time :rolleyes:

i once worked with a chinese co-worker. she told me in her opinion, a man should marry a woman 10 years younger -- not because of immaturity issue but she said if they were the same age, after having had a few kids the wife would end up looking older than the husband :)

Mick, I'm going to keep that one between you and me, since my wife is a few years older than me ;):p:icon17:

haha. dodge says the same thing (well, maybe 50 years difference)
grab life by the horns! :D

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I have a good buddy of mine who parties hard and once said he planned to be dead by 30.

I told him he'll probably feel differently about that when he's 29 :icon17:

Now he's 30 and I'm 39 and we're still both plenty of trouble :D

One of the best parts of the forum experience is having young snots remind me just what a naive, ignorant know-it-all I was when I was in my 20's. :tiphat:

What's with all this age talk? To paraphrase Groucho Marx, "You're only as old as the woman you feel."

:bowrofl: that's right!

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:iagree: didn't know there was a age limilt on having fun

You're making me feel old! :)

The M3 has too many seats for me...

Did anyone watch the Top Gear episode when they reviewed the mustang? Yes its great to have all that HP, too bad it came with a craptastic suspension, and handles like an astro minivan. Dont get me wrong I'd sport a boss no problem, but for the money going apples to apples the Z beats the doors off the stang IMHO.

Of course I have always thought the stang was a poor man's muscle car, so I may be a little jaded.

Which Mustang? Because my 2011 will blow the doors off my old 370 on a drag strip or road track.

Not the 370 with miata doors! Impossible Sir!

Yeah but not many people can afford that. The labor itself is over $1,000,000. It requires a number of air strikes for the military to destroy all of the metal surrounding the doors.

Once they destroy the car and only the doors remain, they can install it on a new vehicle.

I doubt it was a 2011. If it was, the review was just based on their memories of the craptastic suspension in the past. It's still not perfect, but it's pretty damn impressive.

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The only Top Gear Mustang review I remember was of the '05 that Hammond drove around the English countryside.

Yes! 5 kills in a row, calling in AirStrike!

Your saying your new stang handles better then your old Z??

From what he's told me, it's very close in handling, but the extra horse on the straights is what creates the gap.

I know one of the suspension developers on the Mustang. He is an active SCCA racer in a Porsche. The Mustangs suspension has come a long way over past couple of years. If the Boss had come out earlier I may have purchased one! They had preproduction Mustangs out on Laguna Seca suspension tuning. Boss has very nice suspension setup with very firm Bilstiens.

Suspect the Boss could whip the 370 Z on a track.

WOuld love to see top gear do Boss Laguna Seca edition review with maybe a 370Z Nismo and a Camaro SS.

I'm not saying it's better, but it's very close. Obviously the cars feel very different but both seem to get around corners just as quickly as the other. From my experience the Mustang has a better balance. It rotates freely but requires a different driving style. The Z has more of an "on rails" feel until you start to lose the front end. It has quite a bit more understeer than the Mustang feels neutral with a hint of oversteer.

It wouldn't even be a contest. The Boss would be significantly quicker than both cars. I think the SS and Nismo could be a close one but the Boss would leave them in the dust. A standard Brembo package 5.0 would be a better comparison.

Ugh, that would suck if they did a direct comparison against the Z. It might make me do something I really shouldn't (financially speaking). :yum: Hell, just seeing one in person might send me over the edge.

that mustang aint the boss of me!!

No I dont believe it was the 2011. They put it on the dyno and then afterwards markered in "Almost" next to the 500HP stripe on the bottom. I havent read anything on the 2011 so they must of made some major changes to the suspension, cause when they took it through the hammerhead it was almost in the grass on the model they were testing. Ill see if I can find the episode and find out which model they were reviewing.

Ah, the older GT500s. Yeah, the 05-10 GT500s were kind of whack. Too much power for the suspension. The 2011s are quite different, though. Very quick.