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IMO people who choose the Z, don't choose it for HP. It is the combination of speed, handling, price, beauty, and the savvy nature that the Z has always had. Sure there are lots of faster cars, but we choose the Z for its wholesomeness and not individual specs.

Based on the "Non-mod owners unite" thread, I call BS on that one. A lot of people feel the Z is lacking in the power department, apparently. Just look at their mod lists. A few contain suspension stuff, but almost all contain power enhancing mods.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ers-unite.html

I've got CAIs, but not because the VQ was lacking in power for me. I got it for a slight power bump, but I also got it for the sound.

In fact, I like CAIs so much, I would probably have gotten them in any performance car. Heck, my DD has them.

I put a K&N panel-filter in my G20. I know what you mean, lol. It did actually make it sound a bit deeper.

If all you want is Hp, then you should be buying a Mustang or Camaro, no question. Heck, you can get 500Hp in a sedan these days, that will kill a Z from the lights. But, there's a lot more to a car than Hp. I love my Z because it's NOT a muscle car, and because there are few of them on the road - I do not like having what the "joneses" have. Call me a snob, but the Z is for drivers with refined and multidimensional preferences, sure we like to accelerate fast on occassion, but it's more about steering, connection, precision, corner to corner poise at the limit on the canyons. And I can appreciate an upscale interior and modern (not retro) design, it looks appropriate at the office, at the kid's school, etc, getting in/out wearing a business suite. My old Camaro SS was absolutley incredible performance for the money, with some chassis and suspension mods, but it did not offer near the same connection and poise on challenging roads - and I as long as I owned it, I always felt (and looked) like a kid who never grew up, fancy suite or not. It's a matter of style and image, and muscle cars don't do it for me (the GTR is frankly questionable in regard to style, but probably makes up for it with performance).

I agree that the Z is nice and more up-scale than the mustang or camaro, but most owners I see are young people (under 25) and don't fit well with the suite/tie image unless they are the salesman selling the car. You sound more like a BMW or Porsche customer with your talk of "refined and multidimensional" and "appropriate at the office and wearing a business suite". 370Z evokes the image of the younger military and college guys that inhabit my town. This poll seems to corroborate that.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...poll-38-a.html

That's funny because I saw the whitest beard I have ever seen in my life this morning, and he was behind the wheel of a silver 370Z sport. The guy looked pretty badass. :tup:

BTW, I am a businessman and have been a businessman in both a 370 and Mustang. I feel "refined and multidimensional" in neither of the two cars. They are sub $40k toys that kids have easy access to. Nothing "refined and multidimensional" about them.

If I was driving a BMW, Audi, Porsche, Merc, or other luxury/high-end car maybe I'd feel that way. But I don't. I just feel like a successful professional who, outside of the office, absolutely refuses to grow up. Bottom line is I *should* be driving one of those cars but I'm not.

Biggest/whitest beard I saw was behind the wheel of a drop-top 98-02 Z28.

It's all about preference I think. I still LOL at the idea that the 370Z could ever be viewed as conveying the type of maturity, and discrimination the poster above indicated.

I even view the GT-R as a younger guy's car. Maybe some nanoengineer or IT guy in his late 20's.

Just my perceptions, surely many will argue against.

The thing about sports cars or really any type of iconic car (Z, Corvette, Mustang, etc) is that you get a very wide range of ownership. From 16 year olds who get them as birthday presents all the way up to retired guys just wanting to have some fun. We can stereotype all we want, but the fact of the matter is that affordable performance cars tend to attract a very wide range of customers in terms of age, background, etc.

:iagree: That's what I was trying to get at :)

I saw a fat girl driving a new Z. She was multi-dimensional.

She wants sex.

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Are the Jonses multidimensional?

I'm in 3D...does that count?

:D

I work on Wall Street, and Im in a suit/tie in my Z everyday :tup:

...only 21 though

Actually, I've met Z owners of a wide range of ages and stations in life. I haven't noticed any one trend in age or social status tied to this car over any other.

to the 21st century and beyond
 

it's all about bang for the buck, and to keep up the Z will need to get quicker.

if the sales are indeed down, they may move the price point up

at $40k a Z could hang out between the Mustang and the Corvette

the current Z is the best buy for quickness, agility, speed

and it turns heads.

But time waits for no man-or sports car.

For me the question is simply..What will improve the 370Z's overall performance the most? Right now I believe adding horsepower will give you faster track times, strip times, etc. than any other mod. It already handles extremely well, it has nice enough egrodynamics, it looks great, and it seems to be fairly reliable when compared to other sports cars. It's biggest weakness is power at this point. Many other companies have upped their game, Nissan needs to step up soon as well. When the 370Z debuted, there was no Camaro, there was no 5.0 mustang, and the porsche has less power (the last big thing for them was a power bump as the 370Z came out).

You're spot on. Handling/braking on the Z is good enough already. Just needs more power.

They should race the BNSF engine in the back ground, it has 4,000hp and six axles.

to me, the coolest thing about the top end american cars (viper, z06, zr1, zl1, gt500) is that they only come with a true manual transmission. if you don't like to shift, oh well, there's the nissan gt-r, ferrari and lamborghini cars :)

I have never met an older Z owner. Just what looked like 35 (at the oldest) and below. Demographics differ, though, and living near one of the largest military installations in the country skews things around here.

I agree. I'm 26 and I think it's the perfect age for the 370z. I honestly cannot see myself driving this car when I'm say 40 or older. I don't think I would put up with the road noise and the other issues if I was older. I think M3 land is where i'd be.

Well I'm 21, but I met up at a Z meet in MD and there was definitely a huge age gap between me and the most of the other guys. There were other guys who looked like they were in their 20's bit also guys who looked like they were in their 40's. I'm gonna keep the Z for a few years and hopefully move on to a GT-R. After that I will have to see what cars are are available, but I do like Aston Martin.

I was working as a tech in a Nissan dealer in 02-04 and what I saw was a couple of college kids (TCU) and a high school kid here and there. Then it was mustly retirees. driving them. The kids left the house and they could now afford the sports car they always wanted. The C5 corvette just didn't have the fit and finish the 350's did. A couple trophy wives drove them to.

You and Hazazzi, I believe, are our youngest members.

The rest of us are in our mid 20s to 50s. :icon17:

Hey, I'm young too. Don't lump me in with you old farts.:inoutroflpuke:

You often wake up in the middle of the night to pee. You are old. :hello:

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I am 18!!

I am 40 and I will not ever get tired of the Z. M3's are a nice cars but I have three vehicles for the price of a new M3.

Your only as old as you feel.

the m3 must be a very powerful car but it looks too conservative for me. there are a lot of less expensive cars that i would rather have instead of the m3 (like all the modern american muscle cars, for example).

Its always good to add some diversity to the group. :tup:

Yes, but you are not part of our group here in VA/MD that I was referring too. :)

You wake me up every night. That's how I know.

joke fail. :(

:shakes head:

Eye apology. :(

you still have to sleep on the couch. You embarrassed me in front of my friends.

when was there an age limit added on to have fun in these cars...........:driving:


corvettes do attract a some what older age group. 30-???
most of those guys have worked 10 to 20 years
dreaming of the day they could buy one.