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Lug 02-09-2011 01:19 PM

Unless they try to build a frame that is similar to the Lotus (underpinnings for the tesla) and not a standard setup, it will most likely be to heavy to be fast. they claim a "rollbar-integrated aluminum chassis swathed in a composite shell" but the lotus has a glued aluminum tub that only wieghs about 150 lbs with everything else hung off of it. The Leaf's battery pack weighs 600 lbs. You may get some weight savings by switching out the gasoline engine for 2 smaller electric motors but most likely it's still gonna be a little pig.

SoCal 370Z 02-09-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 934244)
Unless they try to build a frame that is similar to the Lotus (underpinnings for the tesla) and not a standard setup, it will most likely be to heavy to be fast. The Leaf's battery pack weighs 600 lbs. You may get some weight savings by switching out the gasoline engine for 4 small electric motors but most likely it's still gonna be a little pig.

Under current technologies, most likely true, but newer technologies could change all that.

Lug 02-09-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 934253)
Under current technologies, most likely true, but newer technologies could change all that.

Cleaned up my original post a bit. :D The reason the tesla has great performance numbers is the frame design from Lotus. No one is coming close to it's weight with normal frame design. The advantage to electric is instant torque. I remember when the Leaf was at this point, people were speculating a 2800 lb car. That turned out to be a gross miscalculation. You have to change battery tech to really get some weight savings and that's going to be problematic. Zinc/Air batteries show great power to weight ratios but they tend to catch on fire if pushed too hard. Not a great feature in a car. :D

flashburn 02-09-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 934285)
Cleaned up my original post a bit. :D The reason the tesla has great performance numbers is the frame design from Lotus. No one is coming close to it's weight with normal frame design. The advantage to electric is instant torque. I remember when the Leaf was at this point, people were speculating a 2800 lb car. That turned out to be a gross miscalculation. You have to change battery tech to really get some weight savings and that's going to be problematic. Zinc/Air batteries show great power to weight ratios but they tend to catch on fire if pushed too hard. Not a great feature in a car. :D

Unless it's a Ferrari. :roflpuke2:

Mr. Q 02-09-2011 02:38 PM

I physically recoiled when I scrolled down. I need an Aphex Twin windowlicker gif to represent my reaction

toxik 02-09-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Q (Post 934440)
I physically recoiled when I scrolled down. I need an Aphex Twin windowlicker gif to represent my reaction

haha aphex twin, like!

Falcor 02-09-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 934126)
Uhg.... I'd rather own a car that eats gas like crazy and only drive it once a month than an electric car that gets its power from smog producing coal plants.

Seriously!! i dont know why everyone always over looks this. People call electric cars "green". dont they know where that electricity is coming from?

not to mention how hard the manufacturing process of these batteries is on the environment.


hypocritical.

HKYStormFront 02-09-2011 02:52 PM

a little birdie told me they already have the next Z pretty much ready. not sure if that means the Z35 or the refresh/update of the Z34 but i'm interested to see what's on the horizon. also, since the GTR has moved up to (a rated) 530 hp, that leaves room for the Z to make upwards of 400 hp or so realistically without encroaching on R35 sales...

Mr. Q 02-09-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcor (Post 934460)
hypocritical.

I'd call it plain ol ignorance, coupled with the way people love a damned bandwagon.

Falcor 02-09-2011 02:57 PM

:iagree:
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Originally Posted by Mr. Q (Post 934484)
I'd call it plain ol ignorance, coupled with the way people love a damned bandwagon.


m4a1mustang 02-09-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 934478)
a little birdie told me they already have the next Z pretty much ready. not sure if that means the Z35 or the refresh/update of the Z34 but i'm interested to see what's on the horizon. also, since the GTR has moved up to (a rated) 530 hp, that leaves room for the Z to make upwards of 400 hp or so realistically without encroaching on R35 sales...

If the next gen Z had 400+ hp and looked anywhere near as good as the 370 I would put one in the garage next to the 5.0 no ifs ands or buts about it.

DevilZ34 02-09-2011 02:59 PM

That concept looks fugly lol, but then again, its only a concept... Only time will tell what the next gen will look like.

b1adesofcha0s 02-09-2011 03:15 PM

I wouldn't mind a hybrid or an EV Z, as long as the looks and performance are there I'm happy. The Porsche 918 concept is a perfect example of something like this, if they ever put it into production. I don't think I would get the next gen Z, however it is. I'm saving up for the next gen GT-R R36 whenever it comes out :D

370z TT 02-09-2011 06:57 PM

The front looks like a corvette concept and the rear looks really bad. Hopefully nissan doesn't use this concept to design anything because I can't see this being my next car.


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