I crashed my new 370z

Armonster · 04-07-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

if VDC wasn't so overbearingly invasive i don't think people would turn it off as much. On my daily commute, VDC comes on several times, when i turn it off, i dont even notice those places because its not like it kicked in because the tail was going to spun out. There was maybe a slight loss of traction on one wheel and it totally bogs the whole car down. If nissan did a a better job of engineering it instead of it just being like 'OMG SLIGHT SLIP! STOP EVERYTHING!' less people would be turning it off

This is a good point. VDC makes it tough to learn the limits of the car because when it kicks in and shuts everything down, you are never sure whether it was due to a tiny bit of a wheel slip or because the back end was about to whip around. I don't understand why it can't just slow things down to the extent necessary, rather than shutting it all down for a second.

Jeffblue · 04-07-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Armonster

This is a good point. VDC makes it tough to learn the limits of the car because when it kicks in and shuts everything down, you are never sure whether it was due to a tiny bit of a wheel slip or because the back end was about to whip around. I don't understand why it can't just slow things down to the extent necessary, rather than shutting it all down for a second.

I'm not sure if its as much about learning the limits as it is about just performing well with it on. The fact of the matter is if you're sick of it coming in a shutting everything down, the only alternative is shuting it off, so its all or nothing. If there was a button on our cars called 'safe mode' and it wouldn't let the engine rev over 4k and you couldn't go over 55, yes that would probably be less accident prone, but if the only way to turn it off was to turn on 'death mode' which turned off ABS, VDC, Airbags, power steering and threw in a 100 shot of NOS when you least expect it, you don't really have a really fun choice on your hands.

VDC's biggest downfall in keeping the car out of accidents is how overbearing it is. If there were varying levels of VDC people would be less likely to just shut it off, but if its 'annoying nanny that ruins all the fun' or the slight risk of spinning out, i think a lot of people choose the latter, and on a modern sports car like this, it shouldn't be so black and white.

Xander117 · 04-07-2011, 07:56 AM

I personally dont see any reason to turn it off while driving on the street, which is exactly where I want to be safe as possible. If I was on the track or somewhere I could check it out and see exactly how much difference there is then I would have it off. I think too many people hop into the car and immediately think I dont need anyone helping me drive I know what the hell Im doing. I think respecting the vehicle and learning what it is capable of is the first thing that should be done. I know we throw the phrase "spirited" driving around, but we dont live in a "closed set". Be safe out there folks its not just you, you are endangering.

As far as selling it, I dont know that I would of gone that far. You can have a wreck in anything. It sounds to me like you were a little gunshy, and just werent happy with it anymore. The first time I low-sided my bike, the best advice I got was "get back on it right away". If you let doubt and fear set in then its very hard to get over it.

Anyway sorry to see your Z go, but you gotta do what you feel comfortable with.

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04-07-2011, 07:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
Xander117 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Warner Robins, GA Posts: 446 Drives: 370, z71, R6 Rep Power: 16	I personally dont see any reason to turn it off while driving on the street, which is exactly where I want to be safe as possible. If I was on the track or somewhere I could check it out and see exactly how much difference there is then I would have it off. I think too many people hop into the car and immediately think I dont need anyone helping me drive I know what the hell Im doing. I think respecting the vehicle and learning what it is capable of is the first thing that should be done. I know we throw the phrase "spirited" driving around, but we dont live in a "closed set". Be safe out there folks its not just you, you are endangering. As far as selling it, I dont know that I would of gone that far. You can have a wreck in anything. It sounds to me like you were a little gunshy, and just werent happy with it anymore. The first time I low-sided my bike, the best advice I got was "get back on it right away". If you let doubt and fear set in then its very hard to get over it. Anyway sorry to see your Z go, but you gotta do what you feel comfortable with.