Glad to see it's back together!

Congrats on getting the car back! Dont pay too much attention to everyone giving you a hard time about VDC being off. I always drive with mine off and never have a problem. Seems like the accident was caused by getting cut off and you trying to swerve out of the way too quickly on a wet road.

mmm dont worry about it. besides if u rolled down ur window during the 360 pulled a gun out and started firing on the bad guys im sure u would have quite an audience now =].

ps. car looks great. no real sign from the camera angle. fit looks tight. go drive the hell out of it bro

:icon18: ...and you can't do THAT with VDC on! (actually, I haven't tried. But I will. I just need a gun and a protractor). :ugh2:

best of luck - let us know when you end up getting and stick around the forums!

May as well stop driving a vehicle then.

if VDC wasn't so overbearingly invasive i don't think people would turn it off as much. On my daily commute, VDC comes on several times, when i turn it off, i dont even notice those places because its not like it kicked in because the tail was going to spun out. There was maybe a slight loss of traction on one wheel and it totally bogs the whole car down. If nissan did a a better job of engineering it instead of it just being like 'OMG SLIGHT SLIP! STOP EVERYTHING!' less people would be turning it off

This is a good point. VDC makes it tough to learn the limits of the car because when it kicks in and shuts everything down, you are never sure whether it was due to a tiny bit of a wheel slip or because the back end was about to whip around. I don't understand why it can't just slow things down to the extent necessary, rather than shutting it all down for a second.

I'm not sure if its as much about learning the limits as it is about just performing well with it on. The fact of the matter is if you're sick of it coming in a shutting everything down, the only alternative is shuting it off, so its all or nothing. If there was a button on our cars called 'safe mode' and it wouldn't let the engine rev over 4k and you couldn't go over 55, yes that would probably be less accident prone, but if the only way to turn it off was to turn on 'death mode' which turned off ABS, VDC, Airbags, power steering and threw in a 100 shot of NOS when you least expect it, you don't really have a really fun choice on your hands.

VDC's biggest downfall in keeping the car out of accidents is how overbearing it is. If there were varying levels of VDC people would be less likely to just shut it off, but if its 'annoying nanny that ruins all the fun' or the slight risk of spinning out, i think a lot of people choose the latter, and on a modern sports car like this, it shouldn't be so black and white.

Sweet! Good to see yours got fixed and looks new again. I'm on the same boat! :tup:

I personally dont see any reason to turn it off while driving on the street, which is exactly where I want to be safe as possible. If I was on the track or somewhere I could check it out and see exactly how much difference there is then I would have it off. I think too many people hop into the car and immediately think I dont need anyone helping me drive I know what the hell Im doing. I think respecting the vehicle and learning what it is capable of is the first thing that should be done. I know we throw the phrase "spirited" driving around, but we dont live in a "closed set". Be safe out there folks its not just you, you are endangering.

As far as selling it, I dont know that I would of gone that far. You can have a wreck in anything. It sounds to me like you were a little gunshy, and just werent happy with it anymore. The first time I low-sided my bike, the best advice I got was "get back on it right away". If you let doubt and fear set in then its very hard to get over it.

Anyway sorry to see your Z go, but you gotta do what you feel comfortable with.

Guess you better have the sickest 370Z on our forums since you don't have any more car payments! :tup:
Can't wait for your build thread! :happydance:

No, he's just afraid of driving and sold it lol.

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No insult intended, but you said yourself you sold it because you're scared of killing yourself. The kid's just a convenient excuse.

The whole story is just hilarious because I think its pretty obvious that you got in a bit over your head with the car and your kid, and now after the accident its probably even worse. You wouldn't have bothered "bragging" about losing your monthly payment, otherwise.

So which is it? You're scared to drive and kill yourself because you can't control your own urges to drive like a nut in a sports car? Or is it finances and being a good parent for your kid? Im going with the latter, FWIW.

Also, one final note: you're probably just as likely to die in a 370Z as you are in *insert whatever your new, cheaper vehicle will be here*. So the argument that you sold it for the good of your child as far as SAFETY goes, is silly.

Back on the VDC topic, both sides have some fair points. I think the VDC actually is to blame for some 370Z accidents. People drive with it on all the time and it corrects their minor mistakes, never allowing them to feel out the limits and really learn to drive the car. Then when they make slightly larger mistakes that the VDC can't compensate for (basic physics always still applies) they're pretty much SOL, since they've got no feel for handling the car.

That being said, I still think for casual street driving in wet conditions, leaving the VDC on is a good bet for some extra safety insurance. It can save you from stupid situations. I'd still recommend explicitly turning it off most of the time and learning to drive the car though.

I have 5 kids

The Z doesn't really get that tail happy with VDC off unless you want it to. I think most of these VDC off crashes are people just driving too fast for the conditions and not slowing down enough for turns.

Cars don't crash themselves. People have been crashing cars with and without traction control, of the safest economy cars, all the way up to the most high performance sports cars. It depends on the driver and the circumstance. Sometimes the driver creates the circumstance by being an asshat. Personally, i drive with VDC on if its raining or wet, otherwise its off.

I do partially blame VDC for some of these accidents, only in the sense that because its so invasive it makes people want to turn it off completely. Honestly, in my daily commute with VDC off i never drift or anything or even lose traction, but if VDC were on and i go over an uneven road surface during a turn it totally throws off the balance of the car and makes it really unenejoyable. Turn it off if you feel comfortable, its still more enjoyable even if you aren't driving very spiritedly.

and to the OP, your reason for selling your vehicle would make sense if you had a motorcycle, not a sports car. You could follow that logic and say that some parent who can't afford to buy a new car with the latest safety features and drives a mid 90's sentra is somehow an irresponsible parent because they are somehow putting their life on the line because they don't have a 5 Star safety rated vehicle.

You turned the VDC off, your a huge idiot and deserved what happened.


Glad your ok and hte car got fixed, hope you see this and know i was j/k lol

Good thing there is no button for ABS. Else people will start turning that off too.

That sucks...At least you're still alive!! :tup:

Please tell me you don't actually own a Z...

and then :gtfo2:

Read the white print :hello:

Edit: Im hoping you missed the white print, if my sense of humor wasnt appreciated i apologize.

Nobody would notice that :-p. Do it in super small print, or use the spoiler button. Then people would get it lol