Is the Z the ugly duck now?

spearfish25 · 02-03-2011, 12:03 PM

I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc?

partsguy · 02-03-2011, 12:07 PM

What's an F-86?

shadoquad · 02-03-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc?

Well, it's not a world beater in sales numbers, but not even Nissan is really pressing the marketing on it. But it was not hyped all that much last year, either.

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Originally Posted by partsguy

What's an F-86?

Let me google that for you

Zaggeron · 02-03-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc?

It could be that they are comparing 2+2 coupes which is what the BMW 1M, TTS and FT-86 all are.

m4a1mustang · 02-03-2011, 12:19 PM

The Z isn't "fresh" anymore and yeah it's probably mainly a 2+2 comparo. The Z is more in the Cayman/Boxster/Z4 crowd than anything else.

theDreamer · 02-03-2011, 12:23 PM

Well with the FT86 there is still a lot of rumors of where it will land, 1M or down with the Gen coupe 2.0T.
The Z hit its stride already and has nothing new to offer from Nissan until an engine update or a style update.

PapoZalsa · 02-03-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by partsguy

What's an F-86?

FT-86! There are numerous thread about this and is the new Toyota/Subaru Sport Car that they are working on.

Check the Other Vehicles Thread Section.

Toyota FT-86/FR-S

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc?

The 370Z had less marketing than the 350Z, however it is the best bang for the buck. I don't care comparision with other cars, I like my 370Z and that's it!

TypeOne · 02-03-2011, 01:17 PM

I'm waiting on the FT production version to come out... I hope the interior doesn't look like the prototypes!

ProfessorDave · 02-03-2011, 01:20 PM

I have a hard time believing that toyota will put out a 300HP coupe to compete with the Z. Still, the concept looks nice.

theDreamer · 02-03-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

I have a hard time believing that toyota will put out a 300HP coupe to compete with the Z. Still, the concept looks nice.

Well, technically it does not need 300HP to compete with the Z but it would require them to meet the weight of 2500lbs.

kenchan · 02-03-2011, 01:29 PM

yah, i think it has to do with how many seats the car has.

so we are compared to the miata.

Lug · 02-03-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, i think it has to do with how many seats the car has.

so we are compared to the miata.

Catagories and their weight in the overall analysis:

Slalom & Skidpad: 10%

0-60 and 1/4 mile: 20%

Fit, finish, and interior: 10%

Door integrity: 60%

We don't stand a chance.

m4a1mustang · 02-03-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Catagories and their weight in the overall analysis:

Slalom & Skidpad: 10%

0-60 and 1/4 mile: 20%

Fit, finish, and interior: 10%

Door integrity: 60%

We don't stand a chance.

kenchan · 02-03-2011, 02:07 PM

i LOL'ed.

Footloose301 · 02-03-2011, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug

Catagories and their weight in the overall analysis:

Slalom & Skidpad: 10%

0-60 and 1/4 mile: 20%

Fit, finish, and interior: 10%

Door integrity: 60%

We don't stand a chance.

02-03-2011, 12:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Is the Z the ugly duck now? I've seen numerous articles in magazines comparing new sports car models with slightly older models. However, the Z almost never gets mentioned anymore. For example, the FT-86 speculation pegs it agains the BMW 1M and TTS. No Z mention. I've seen this time and again lately with various models. So is the Z an ugly duck now or is it considered to be in some lesser category than the TTS, 1M, FT-86, etc etc? __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

02-03-2011, 12:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	The Z isn't "fresh" anymore and yeah it's probably mainly a 2+2 comparo. The Z is more in the Cayman/Boxster/Z4 crowd than anything else. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-03-2011, 12:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Well with the FT86 there is still a lot of rumors of where it will land, 1M or down with the Gen coupe 2.0T. The Z hit its stride already and has nothing new to offer from Nissan until an engine update or a style update. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

02-03-2011, 01:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
ProfessorDave A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 1,580 Drives: In the fairway Rep Power: 18	I have a hard time believing that toyota will put out a 300HP coupe to compete with the Z. Still, the concept looks nice. __________________ Rain, snow, sleet, hail: 2009 Mazda 3 sGT HB Everything else: 2009 370z, PW Touring 6MT

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	yah, i think it has to do with how many seats the car has. so we are compared to the miata.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	i LOL'ed.