the notion that your life ends when you get married or have kids or w/e is propagated by pussy-whipped husbands and dads who throw out everything and every activity they enjoy because they get married or have a kid and are at the mercy of their wife and kids. It doesn't have to be like that if you just grow a pair of balls. Obviously there is a balance between a healthy relationship with ones family and their own independence, but the idea that that you have to ditch your car or whatever hobbies you have is ridiculous.

it was a joke... i honestly dont care how you or anyone here live their lives. enjoy it the way you want to.

i can tell you though, that having kids is not the end of the world for dads. :tup:

Well then YOU'RE more likely to pick up an STD since you're avoiding monogamous relationships, which are surely the best way to avoid STDs! :tup:

And also, just because marriage/relationships didn't work for your buddies/friends doesn't ipso facto mean that they won't work for you. It's all up to the individuals involved and it takes a LOT of work, but I can assure you that a healthy relationship with a modern American woman *is* actually possible! :)

This.

Why, because she's a black woman?

C'mon, man. I don't think Venus Williams is your average black woman (or average woman period).

I have never seen a single story of her that was negative or revealed any hint of either drug use or "looseness" on the sexual front. I don't have any sort of thing for her in particular, but I was trying to think of someone famous who I would actually feel fairly secure with.

Another one, surprisingly enough, is Shakira, who, despite her total hotness :yum:, has been with the same guy since 2000.

That's the kind of girl you should be looking for... one who has mainly been involved in monogamous relationships. Inevitably the number of sexual partners for these types of girls is the lowest you will find (except for fugly girls, who have the lowest number of partners of all girls!) and thus the best chance you have of avoiding STDs.

Or you could just be a monk, but that doesn't seem like any fun at all! :);)

I take the money that i save by sharing needles with my friends and spend it on condoms.

Well if you were previously spending money on your needles then youredoingitwrong! :p

Needle exchanges, bi**hes! :happydance:

Smart man... :tup:

I avoid pretty much everything and demand bloodwork if I do. Relationships just aren't smart, man. Too many lives I have seen ruined. I'll leave that stuff for you guys who are cool with losing 50% of the stuff you worked for and posting up crap like "My wife won't let me buy a new clutch but I really want one so I'm on this forum whining". I'm glad I caught on at an early age before I was in a position to waste my life on marriage. It's not natural.

She's black, and she's older. Statistically, she is indeed more disease-prone according to all the studies I have read, which are a considerable amount after the damnable community-health course I went through.

The kind of girl I like is the one that had a bad home life and has devoted her future to the porn industry. Way hotter than anyone I know in person and completely safe to admire :tiphat:

That, or someone with bloodwork done who is willing to present it, or who is willing to get bloodwork done and has already had a hysterectomy. Take no chances.

I suppose not, but my dad sure took a hit. Had to sell the plane, harley, etc. I would feel like crap if I was the result of my own decision-making.

the guy that owns the shop that did the alarm install on my 370z has a bunch of corvettes and races and all that.. He was probably in his late 50's. he said that he and his wife chose cars over having children, and as much as he loves cars, he thinks deep down he made the wrong decision.

just some perspective...

I think that liking cars and wanting to buy a lot of 'toys' is no reason not to get married and have kids. I mean, if deep down its someting you really don't want (marriage/children) then thats one thing, but if its because you are scarred that you wont be able to buy yourself as much stuff or have 'freedom' then i think thats silly. you just need to take charge of your relationship from the begining and not become complacent and always say 'OK whatever you want honey.' if you're not confident in your ability to do that then i guess its your loss. Theres such a thing as balance.


Theres plenty of guys on here with wives/kids. Yea, there some that come on to complain about the mod their wife wont let them buy or that they have to sell their car or whatever. But then there are guys like Kenchan and some others who have wives/kids and you don't hear them complaining. I think because they are strong willed people that know what they want and make that a reality. too many guys are too lazy to balance out their lives so they just settle for whatever happens. they know they aren't capable of having a woman/family AND their hobbies so they say either 'alright forget cars/hobbies/sports/etc i have a family.... or they say 'alright forget women and family, i want cars/hobbies/sports etc.

everyone's perspective is based on their experiences. But yours are obviously totally biased(and rightfully so). obviosuly there are gold digging b1tchy women out there that will take half your stuff etc. But honestly, your view of marriage/women is just as biased as a girl who has 'daddy issues' and doesn't trust any man because her dad cheated on her mom. however, your opinion is biased nonetheless.

Of course it's biased. Any personal opinion is biased by definition. It still won't steer me wrong. You know how many married women have hit on me? You know how many married women at work come to me with their marital issues like I am some guru that can solve it just because I pick up on that something is wrong wiht them that night? There is WAY too much trouble that goes hand in hand with marriage. That never-ending circle of love thing you slip on your hand is more like a snake eating its own tail.

The only real reason to get married is if you want kids (and I don't), so that you can provide a balanced growth-period for that child. Humans have very long developmental stages and need that kind of stability/variety in their home environment as they mature. Other than that, why mess with marriage? If you like someone, move in and share bills and when its over, move out. If you life in a commonlaw state like mine, make sure you don't go over the deadline without a break in between or you may get screwed just the same.

The only reason Kenchan doesn't bitch is I bet he makes 6-figures well before october. Money changes everything.

but wouldn't his evil bloodsucking wife just steal all his money than:stirthepot::p

kids and marriage aren't for everyone. but i'm just saying the reason why shouldn't be b/c your dad married a witch who took half his money when they got divorced.

i can't speak for why your dad did that but i sure have not lost out on anything other than time (and sleep). :D