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Originally Posted by theDreamer Sorry, 15/24, so really basically the same minus highway. VR38DETT with engine/oils plus cats weight 608lbs ( VR38DETT engine weight | 2009 Nissan GT-R ) Compared

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Old 12-20-2010, 09:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sorry, 15/24, so really basically the same minus highway.
VR38DETT with engine/oils plus cats weight 608lbs (VR38DETT engine weight | 2009 Nissan GT-R) Compared to a LS7 which is 458 with just the engine (no oils, etc.) I would say it is pretty close.

Power/weight is out the window now though. It is about fuel efficiency & power.
Power/weight is being left for the 100k plus cars only where anything below that needs to meet a higher MPG but still provide X amount of power.
Right you are. I could have sworn the 2006's were 16/25, but then, the heavier trans, etc. in the new Z06 would probably suck another mpg out of the equation even if that were the case.

Factor in 10.5qts of oil for the LS7, and it probably closes the gap.

Either way, you are right. The EPA/OPEC is calling the shots and a lot of people (BMW included) ARE! going to FI. FI technology has advanged greatly. I am sure a factory FI VQ would do the job (400bhp), but why would Nissan do that to an old platform? No, if they do that, it will be on a new platform I would think.

I still prefer a V8 to an FI engine. Less junk to break, and it does just as well. Simpler is better if the results are the same. All that complicated stuff is fun to brag about until it sharts the bed and you have to fix it.
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Right you are. I could have sworn the 2006's were 16/25, but then, the heavier trans, etc. in the new Z06 would probably suck another mpg out of the equation even if that were the case.

Factor in 10.5qts of oil for the LS7, and it probably closes the gap.

Either way, you are right. The EPA/OPEC is calling the shots and a lot of people (BMW included) ARE! going to FI. FI technology has advanged greatly. I am sure a factory FI VQ would do the job (400bhp), but why would Nissan do that to an old platform? No, if they do that, it will be on a new platform I would think.

I still prefer a V8 to an FI engine. Less junk to break, and it does just as well. Simpler is better if the results are the same. All that complicated stuff is fun to brag about until it sharts the bed and you have to fix it.
I'm a fan of NA over FI, too, for the most part, for the same reason.
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