Originally Posted by Xander117 (Post 1020591)

I think a lot of people are lost in the fact of what a true sports car is. I dont think most view it has a positive thing, but something that comes along with a vehicle in this realm.In the sports car realm a mere "30lbs" is a lot when you are trying to shave wieght everywhere you can. Power to wieght is what we are talking about 30-50 lbs could be a 5-6 horsepower loss. I know you are going to laugh at 5-6 horsepower but hey you buy this type of car to squeeze everything you can out of it. In terms of horsepower, everything is about wieght.

It amazes me that people buy these cars and expecting for the money (in truth these are cheap sports cars) they pay to get everything in one package. There is an infiniti that boasts much of what you are looking for with the same engine and a back seat. Which seems a much more practical option for many of the complaints Ive seen an read about. I mean look at the Ferrari F40 (I am in no way comparing our car to it in any other way than it was also a production car), for the money you paid you know what you got? A/C.... No door handles, no carpet, no stereo *it did have an oil cooler :stirthepot:" I dont know of any car designer who was designing a car built for speed and handling that would throw "cabin noise" high on the concern list.

I think you have to remember who a lot of your audience is here. Though there are some daily driver stock guys here, a lot of people here bought these cars to see what they could get out of them. A fun afforadable most bang for your buck sports car. So when you say people seem to think road noise is a positive issue, they arent they view it as an acceptable issue. I mean this isnt a personal attack, more of a defense of the people who dont mind the road noise. You said it yourself its easy to add, so if it bothers someone so much that they are having buyers remorse maybe a little more research or a few more test drives should of been on the menu.

My 2 cents, opinions are like @55holes, and all that jazz....

Originally Posted by Dwight Frye (Post 1022155)

Nissan failed at something that was an easy design parameter.

Originally Posted by pbs370z (Post 1027184)

This thread is to talk about how to reduce the noise inside the car. If you're happy with the noise level, then fine. You're a happy camper. For those of us who aren't happy with the noise level, we're (many of us) are going to try to reduce it and we want to know all the techniques and info available to do so. If you don't think this car is noisy inside then this isn't the thread for you. Find another thread!

P.S. I just got finished with Dyanamatting the rear hatch area and also some Luxury Liner Pro over some key areas that sound like a tin drum when you tap on them. Noise level is definitely better. Not satisfied yet though. I plan to do the doors next.

Originally Posted by ocfoilist (Post 1028597)

Take a decibel meter and you can differentiate between absolutely no sound dampening and 30 lbs worth of your favorite dampening material.

Originally Posted by pbs370z (Post 1027184)

This thread is to talk about how to reduce the noise inside the car. If you're happy with the noise level, then fine. You're a happy camper. For those of us who aren't happy with the noise level, we're (many of us) are going to try to reduce it and we want to know all the techniques and info available to do so. If you don't think this car is noisy inside then this isn't the thread for you. Find another thread!

P.S. I just got finished with Dyanamatting the rear hatch area and also some Luxury Liner Pro over some key areas that sound like a tin drum when you tap on them. Noise level is definitely better. Not satisfied yet though. I plan to do the doors next.

Originally Posted by chmod (Post 1029253)

This topic is relevant to my interests. Can you just buy some material and ask any body shop to put it in for you? Or do you have to find someone who specializes in sound-dampening? I'm not *too* bothered by cabin noise, but I certainly wouldn't turn down a chance to reduce it.

Originally Posted by pbs370z (Post 1027184)

This thread is to talk about how to reduce the noise inside the car. If you're happy with the noise level, then fine. You're a happy camper. For those of us who aren't happy with the noise level, we're (many of us) are going to try to reduce it and we want to know all the techniques and info available to do so. If you don't think this car is noisy inside then this isn't the thread for you. Find another thread!

P.S. I just got finished with Dyanamatting the rear hatch area and also some Luxury Liner Pro over some key areas that sound like a tin drum when you tap on them. Noise level is definitely better. Not satisfied yet though. I plan to do the doors next.

Originally Posted by ocfoilist (Post 1028597)

That's what surprised me. Nissan put NO sound dampening on this car at all. I do understand what people are saying about "buy a sports car, be prepared for a lot of road noise", but with the technology of today, it's really not hard to get a great sports car that is also not unnecessarily burdened with tire noise and a cacophony of rock & pebble sounds. As a person that does track their vehicle from time to time, I can tell you that (imho) 30 lbs worth of sound dampening doesn't make a smack of difference. I challenge anyone to take their Z to the track and quantitatively differentiate the difference in performance between 3,330 lbs and 3.360 lbs. Take a decibel meter and you can differentiate between absolutely no sound dampening and 30 lbs worth of your favorite dampening material.