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dnasty370z 10-13-2010 02:48 PM

370z LS Swap
 
I am wondering how hard do you guys think it will be to swap an LS motor into our Z's Whether it be an LS1 , LS2, or LS7 I have seen it done on a solstice and Sky but I haven't really ran across Any Z's before. Has there maybe been a 350z That's done this that anyone knows of? Please give me any info you got? Cause I like the Idea of a 370z hybrid lol :tup:

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 02:52 PM

theres a few ls2 350z's. i'm sure its a pain but its possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBXo1D783j0

i don't believe its been done on the 370z yet though.

m4a1mustang 10-13-2010 02:54 PM

Honestly it shouldnt be TOO bad. The LS engines are fairly compact.

SoCal 370Z 10-13-2010 02:55 PM

Where are you getting your donor 370Z?

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 02:57 PM

i feel like it would be logical if you had bought a salvage 370z or came into an ls motor for free or cheap.

m4a1mustang 10-13-2010 03:00 PM

Or if you just had boatloads of cash.

If I had the money I'd be in an LS7 370Z right now.

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 764086)
Or if you just had boatloads of cash.

If I had the money I'd be in an LS7 370Z right now.

or if you are a prince in saudi arabia, you call nissan and chevrolet and tell them to make you an ls7 370z and they do it. and then you put it in your garage with a bugatti veyron, some weird *** car called a 'lamborghini', mclaren f1, 5 porsches, 3 corvettes, and a camel.

dnasty370z 10-13-2010 03:07 PM

Lol no donor 370z I just plan on keeping this car forever so I was just having one of those planning ahead moments for when ever I finish running this motor to the ground after sometime and I mean sometime like not anytime soon I just thought It would be a cool thread to get everyone's two cents...

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 764093)
Lol no donor 370z I just plan on keeping this car forever so I was just having one of those planning ahead moments for when ever I finish running this motor to the ground after sometime and I mean sometime like not anytime soon I just thought It would be a cool thread to get everyone's two cents...

i'd say go for it in like a few years, if you get your hands on a ls motor that is out of a totalled car or something and isn't damaged.

dnasty370z 10-13-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 764098)
i'd say go for it in like a few years, if you get your hands on a ls motor that is out of a totalled car or something and isn't damaged.

That's What I plan on doing and it should not be too hard to find there alot of ppl with vette's and A lot of them don't know how to drive lol Do you guys think it will be a real tight squeeze to the point where a pair of turbo's won't fit?

m4a1mustang 10-13-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 764103)
That's What I plan on doing and it should not be too hard to find there alot of ppl with vette's and A lot of them don't know how to drive lol Do you guys think it will be a real tight squeeze to the point where a pair of turbo's won't fit?

You won't need turbos with an LSX. :icon17:

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 764106)
You won't need turbos with an LSX. :icon17:

yea thats for sure. If you want to do an engine swap because you want more power, you've got it with the LSX. if you want to do an engine swap because you want more power via Turbo charger, you should swap to an engine that comes with a turbo from the factory and is designed to take the boost. the ls2 in the 350z is already something thats rather frightening to drive i imagine.

dnasty370z 10-13-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 764106)
You won't need turbos with an LSX. :icon17:

oh man I know......lmao only thing is I'm not balling like that I'm gonna have to go another route like the man mentioned before pickin something out of a totaled vette, camaro or Gto as long as engine and tranny are fine lol

m4a1mustang 10-13-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 764111)
yea thats for sure. If you want to do an engine swap because you want more power, you've got it with the LSX. if you want to do an engine swap because you want more power via Turbo charger, you should swap to an engine that comes with a turbo from the factory and is designed to take the boost. the ls2 in the 350z is already something thats rather frightening to drive i imagine.

And if you wanted more power you could just cam it.

hazzazi 10-13-2010 03:22 PM

intresting thread... i have thought of the same thing, but i'm leaning more towards the turbo's now.

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 03:23 PM

i just noticed you have a 7AT. i'm not sure how much power the auto trans in our car is designed to take. and i assume what you'd get out of an LSX would be more than that. i think if you want a crazy retarded fast car, you should by a supra turbo or a 03/04 cobra and do a build and keep your z intact. If you just wanna GO REALLY FAST, then get a car that isn't really expensive to mod. engine swaps=expensive. engine building=expensive. turbo kits=expensive.

m4a1mustang 10-13-2010 03:25 PM

He would ditch the 7AT and have to mate the LS up to an LS MT trans. Probably a T56.

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 03:27 PM

i'd be curious to see what top secret does for a ridiculous 370z build.

m4a1mustang 10-13-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 764135)
i'd be curious to see what top secret does for a ridiculous 370z build.

We'd never know because it's classified.

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 764138)
We'd never know because it's classified.

ha ha

ClemsonWill 10-13-2010 04:29 PM

I have a buddy with an LS1 Rx7. He did all the work himself and everything fits fine. The engine bay is about the same size so I don't see why you couldn't do this with the 370z. It's just a lot of work. IMO you are probably better off getting a S/C or TT.

Mercennarius 10-13-2010 05:54 PM

LSx 370Z is LAME.

You can make more power easier and cheaper with turbos.

shabarivas 10-13-2010 06:33 PM

Yes you can - but its also not as good as NA power - Ill take an NA 370z w/ 400whp over a TT 370z w/ 450 just due to its general drive-ability. Try taking a sweeping turn @ 80 while your turbos decide to kick in - makes for an interesting sight....

TT is cool - but NA is always better...

Mercennarius 10-13-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 764404)
Yes you can - but its also not as good as NA power - Ill take an NA 370z w/ 400whp over a TT 370z w/ 450 just due to its general drive-ability. Try taking a sweeping turn @ 80 while your turbos decide to kick in - makes for an interesting sight....

TT is cool - but NA is always better...

Incorrect.

Think the GTRs VR38DETT isn't good for road racing? You must not have experience with a proper turbocharged engine.

Turbo > Natural Aspiration

spearfish25 10-13-2010 06:56 PM

From what I had read, the challenge isn't fitting the engine as much as making the electronics and computer play 'nice' with a different motor. I think there was a thread on this way back when.

Havsie 10-13-2010 06:57 PM

I really wonder what an LS engine feels like in a non 4000lb sedan

Mike 10-13-2010 06:57 PM

hmm, I wonder what would be more cost effective, GTR swap or LS3 swap? I imagine the electronics would be much easier to integrate with the VR38, but the engine itself would be much more.

Supercharged LS9 would be best of both worlds though.


and, Corvette drivers don't crash as much as was mentioned earlier. Thats why insurance on my C6 was much less than on my 350z or 370z. You never read a post on the Corvette forum from some douchebag kid about crashing in a turn in the rain with VDC off.

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 764414)
Incorrect.

Think the GTRs VR38DETT isn't good for road racing? You must not have experience with a proper turbocharged engine.

Turbo > Natural Aspiration

i think he means it in the context of a haphazard build like 'THROW A NEW ENGINE IN' or 'SLAP ON A TURBO' kind of thing. obviously a car with a stock turbo, like the GTR isn't going to have that problem. a properly tuned system shouldn't have it either, but i could see it being more likely in an aftermarket build.

Mercennarius 10-13-2010 07:00 PM

It's cheaper to twin turbo a 370Z. A twin turbo VQ37 has a very similar powerband as a VR38DETT.

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 764427)
hmm, I wonder what would be more cost effective, GTR swap or LS3 swap? I imagine the electronics would be much easier to integrate with the VR38, but the engine itself would be much more.

Supercharged LS9 would be best of both worlds though.


and, Corvette drivers don't crash as much as was mentioned earlier. Thats why insurance on my C6 was much less than on my 350z or 370z. You never read a post on the Corvette forum from some douchebag kid about crashing in a turn in the rain with VDC off.

i was on the highway today driving like 60 somethinng in the right lane and there was this guy in a geico car who seemed to be an insurance adjuster or something. anyways, i was getting passed by people going 75-80 in shitty *** old volvos and c class mercedes and ****. i was thinking 'yea take that insurance guy! see i am driving safe, and look at these people gunning it in their safe family cars with low insurance premiums.'

its not the car, its the driver.

stupid statistics!

Jeffblue 10-13-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 764432)
It's cheaper to twin turbo a 370Z. A twin turbo VQ37 has a very similar powerband as a VR38DETT.

i'd honestly love to see what kind of power the superchargers are putting out with a built motor. i love the idea of a built motor with a supercharger in a Z. having all that power on tap and having it come on nice and smooth. a build similar to bullit's but with SC

sonic370 10-13-2010 07:10 PM

I guess some people have more money then common sense.

just buy a corvette and be done with it.

Mike 10-13-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 764446)
I guess some people have more money then common sense.

just buy a corvette and be done with it.

been there, done that, its not as fun to drive as a Z, other than in a straight line. It down right wears you out on the tail of the dragon, the steering is so heavy.

Lug 10-13-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Havsie (Post 764426)
I really wonder what an LS engine feels like in a non 4000lb sedan

?????
go test drive a vette

cossie1600 10-13-2010 11:10 PM

My C6 was lighter than my 370z, get the weight crap out of your head.

3310lbs 2005 C6 vs 3348lbs on 370z

Rooskey 10-13-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 764272)
I have a buddy with an LS1 Rx7. He did all the work himself and everything fits fine. The engine bay is about the same size so I don't see why you couldn't do this with the 370z. It's just a lot of work. IMO you are probably better off getting a S/C or TT.

I just saw a cadilac (4 door) run 7.80's bone stock in the 1/8th. I have LS motors up for grabs all around me. If there's a retro kit to be had im totally in!! F#*>? my warranty and the FI. Oh my favorite ride to be had. :happydance: And maybe a shot of gas to swarm off the old school Xupra's.!! And if you like the old school stuff like i do there is nothing like seeing an old 240 or 60 with a small block in it. (If its done right by all means)!!

370zproject 10-14-2010 02:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nwmkGXsSRo:yum:

Push370zzz 10-14-2010 03:20 AM

holy ******* **** i thought he was gunning it until :29

Forrest 10-14-2010 04:30 AM

Bragging rights alone should be enough. Also i bet it feels so good haha.

ImportConvert 10-14-2010 04:37 AM

For every one of these that works, there are probably a dozen hack cars. I would just buy a Z06/GT-R instead. You will save money and have a nicer car with resale value and a warranty.


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