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ImportConvert 10-14-2010 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 764943)
holy ******* **** i thought he was gunning it until :29

Lol, it sounded to me like 3K shifts and a slow wind to about 35-4500 and then a hit. V8's in light cars are impressive if you're not used to 'em. Especially the LSX series.

ThoriumHotdog 10-14-2010 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 764438)
i was on the highway today driving like 60 somethinng in the right lane and there was this guy in a geico car who seemed to be an insurance adjuster or something. anyways, i was getting passed by people going 75-80 in shitty *** old volvos and c class mercedes and ****. i was thinking 'yea take that insurance guy! see i am driving safe, and look at these people gunning it in their safe family cars with low insurance premiums.'

its not the car, its the driver.

stupid statistics!

There you were, impeding traffic and making the road a dangerous place. All in front of an insurance guy. Shame on you! ;)

ImportConvert 10-14-2010 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 764978)
There you were, impeding traffic and making the road a dangerous place. All in front of an insurance guy. Shame on you! ;)

He was in the right lane. No traffic impedance caused. :stirthepot:

Jeffblue 10-14-2010 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 764981)
He was in the right lane. No traffic impedance caused. :stirthepot:

65 in a 55 isn't slow. its not fast, but its not slow. tops i go on a 55 mph highway is 69mph unless i'm in a rush, and then i'm always paranoid about getting pulled over so i don't really go much faster than that. i feel like cops are looking for people going 70+, they'd rather write a bigger ticket. if i go 75, i'm going 20mph above the speed limit, and i'll get there about 1 minute earlier. timing lights and stuff in local areas is how i try and make up for lost time. not getting stuck at a few 2 minute lights will save you a lot more time if you were in a rush than going a few mph faster than you would normally be driving on the hwy.

Rooskey 10-14-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 764929)

Nasty!! :tup:

m4a1mustang 10-14-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 764976)
For every one of these that works, there are probably a dozen hack cars. I would just buy a Z06/GT-R instead. You will save money and have a nicer car with resale value and a warranty.

That's why you take your time and do it right. Don't cut corners and you'll be fine.

driftmunkey 10-14-2010 12:47 PM

Sick! I wish I had the money for something like that!

cossie1600 10-14-2010 05:28 PM

Exactly, I thought the economy was bad. I am still amazed at how the money thrown into mods and stupid stuff. (I am guilty, full of $hit int he garage)

theDreamer 10-14-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 765910)
Exactly, I thought the economy was bad. I am still amazed at how the money thrown into mods and stupid stuff. (I am guilty, full of $hit int he garage)

What, I can totally write off my supercharger.

dnasty370z 10-15-2010 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 764126)
i just noticed you have a 7AT. i'm not sure how much power the auto trans in our car is designed to take. and i assume what you'd get out of an LSX would be more than that. i think if you want a crazy retarded fast car, you should by a supra turbo or a 03/04 cobra and do a build and keep your z intact. If you just wanna GO REALLY FAST, then get a car that isn't really expensive to mod. engine swaps=expensive. engine building=expensive. turbo kits=expensive.

I obviously would not be keeping my transmission...

dnasty370z 10-15-2010 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 764446)
I guess some people have more money then common sense.

just buy a corvette and be done with it.

It's not about having the money and just buying a vette I love my Z and want to make it as unique a ride as possible for myself.

Mercennarius 10-15-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 766546)
It's not about having the money and just buying a vette I love my Z and want to make it as unique a ride as possible for myself.

LSx swaps are not unique, its the most common swapped engine in to vehicles.

Want to be unique? Swap in a VK56 or a built VH45DE.

But it still makes the most since to just turbo your VQ37.

PapoZalsa 10-15-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 764082)
i feel like it would be logical if you had bought a salvage 370z or came into an ls motor for free or cheap.

:iagree:

370zproject 10-15-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 764943)
holy ******* **** i thought he was gunning it until :29

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 765394)
Nasty!! :tup:

:bowrofl:

wishihadnav 10-15-2010 06:08 PM

why?

ImportConvert 10-16-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 765522)
That's why you take your time and do it right. Don't cut corners and you'll be fine.

Re-sale will still suck. You will NEVER get NEAR your money back from mods. That is why you can buy 1200whp Viper's for $90K instead of the $200+K they cost to build, etc.

ImportConvert 10-16-2010 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 765014)
65 in a 55 isn't slow. its not fast, but its not slow. tops i go on a 55 mph highway is 69mph unless i'm in a rush, and then i'm always paranoid about getting pulled over so i don't really go much faster than that. i feel like cops are looking for people going 70+, they'd rather write a bigger ticket. if i go 75, i'm going 20mph above the speed limit, and i'll get there about 1 minute earlier. timing lights and stuff in local areas is how i try and make up for lost time. not getting stuck at a few 2 minute lights will save you a lot more time if you were in a rush than going a few mph faster than you would normally be driving on the hwy.

45 is usually the minimum legal speed on a 60mph highway. At least, in my state. If you are in the right lane doing 45, you're legal.

dnasty370z 10-18-2010 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 767094)
LSx swaps are not unique, its the most common swapped engine in to vehicles.

Want to be unique? Swap in a VK56 or a built VH45DE.

But it still makes the most since to just turbo your VQ37.

Are you kidding me how many 370z's do you see running around with any kind of corvette motor not to mention an LSX how would that not be unique and If your gonna start comparing a VH45DE or a vk56 which one is an Armada motor and the other a qx motor to an LSX??Which is A RACING CRATE MOTOR not that the other's are not but there simply is no comparison here so.....Honestly you should not even be posting in this thread or racing cars :gtfo2:
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dnasty370z 10-18-2010 08:50 AM

And At this point when this happens the car will be gutted not driven ever only raced and the entire a/c system will be gone I don't see the point in trying to make that work out It will probably be a headache any.

m4a1mustang 10-18-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 768137)
Re-sale will still suck. You will NEVER get NEAR your money back from mods. That is why you can buy 1200whp Viper's for $90K instead of the $200+K they cost to build, etc.

:facepalm:

Do you think anyone that sticks an LS in anything gives a flying f*ck about resale value? :shakes head:

shadoquad 10-18-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 770160)
:facepalm:

Do you think anyone that sticks an LS in anything gives a flying f*ck about resale value? :shakes head:

Seriously. Almost every aftermarket mod to any car is done at a loss.

theDreamer 10-18-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 770166)
Seriously. Almost every aftermarket mod to any car is done at a loss.

Well, not all mods, just ask Mustang. :stirthepot:

theDreamer 10-18-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 770144)
Are you kidding me how many 370z's do you see running around with any kind of corvette motor not to mention an LSX how would that not be unique and If your gonna start comparing a VH45DE or a vk56 which one is an Armada motor and the other a qx motor to an LSX??Which is A RACING CRATE MOTOR not that the other's are not but there simply is no comparison here so.....Honestly you should not even be posting in this thread or racing cars :gtfo2:
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He is saying an LS swap is the most common engine used when people do engine swaps. There are reasons for it, great power, smallish engine, and bolts into almost any car, but what he is trying to say is be unique instead of just going with the standard LS motor. Go grab a nissan V8, which so far I have only seen one Z ever do (a 350z) and it was a 'meh' build.

Jeffblue 10-18-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 770160)
:facepalm:

Do you think anyone that sticks an LS in anything gives a flying f*ck about resale value? :shakes head:

let's see, how do i put this? .... no

Jeffblue 10-18-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 770160)
:facepalm:

Do you think anyone that sticks an LS in anything gives a flying f*ck about resale value? :shakes head:

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 770206)
He is saying an LS swap is the most common engine used when people do engine swaps. There are reasons for it, great power, smallish engine, and bolts into almost any car, but what he is trying to say is be unique instead of just going with the standard LS motor. Go grab a nissan V8, which so far I have only seen one Z ever do (a 350z) and it was a 'meh' build.

there's a g35 with a vk56 titan motor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMEN3vtxo9Q
looks pretty cool. i haven't found any video of that car going in a straight line though. seems to be strictly a drift car.

ChrisSlicks 10-18-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 764427)
and, Corvette drivers don't crash as much as was mentioned earlier. Thats why insurance on my C6 was much less than on my 350z or 370z. You never read a post on the Corvette forum from some douchebag kid about crashing in a turn in the rain with VDC off.

No it's usually a middle aged douche-bag :) - there was a recent incident up in NH where a Corvette driver ended up totaling his car and injured his passenger after showing off on a cool morning. But overall I would agree with you, percentage wise the younger folk are more likely to exceed their ability - I know I did a couple of times when I was young.

Zsteve 10-18-2010 12:06 PM

forget the turbo engine, just put the ZR1 engine in the 370Z and you got the best of both, big V8 power and a SC.

wishihadnav 10-18-2010 01:27 PM

:facepalm:

Mercennarius 10-18-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 770144)
Are you kidding me how many 370z's do you see running around with any kind of corvette motor not to mention an LSX how would that not be unique and If your gonna start comparing a VH45DE or a vk56 which one is an Armada motor and the other a qx motor to an LSX??Which is A RACING CRATE MOTOR not that the other's are not but there simply is no comparison here so.....Honestly you should not even be posting in this thread or racing cars :gtfo2:
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Not how many 370Zs, how many cars period. Theres not another engine in the last 10 years thats been swapped into various cars from various makes more often then the LSx engines. Its been done literally THOUSANDS of times.

You don't think the VH45DE and VK56DE have been used in factory race applications? Maybe you should do some research on both of these motors before knocking them, they have MUCH more potential then I think you realize. In fact, boosted, they probably have more potential. But I won't get into that, you obviously havnt done your research and will probably never even attempt pulling out your VQ37.

:shakes head:




For the price of an LSx swap you could have a 1000HP turbocharged VQ37, and that is a lot cooler then any LSx swap would be.

AtomicRob 10-19-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 764446)
I guess some people have more money then common sense.

just buy a corvette and be done with it.

:iagree: Thank you!

Zsteve 10-19-2010 03:02 PM

thats tooo easy!

dnasty370z 10-19-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 771268)
Not how many 370Zs, how many cars period. Theres not another engine in the last 10 years thats been swapped into various cars from various makes more often then the LSx engines. Its been done literally THOUSANDS of times.

You don't think the VH45DE and VK56DE have been used in factory race applications? Maybe you should do some research on both of these motors before knocking them, they have MUCH more potential then I think you realize. In fact, boosted, they probably have more potential. But I won't get into that, you obviously havnt done your research and will probably never even attempt pulling out your VQ37.

:shakes head:




For the price of an LSx swap you could have a 1000HP turbocharged VQ37, and that is a lot cooler then any LSx swap would be.

Im not going for an LSX I want an LS3....And to get to 1,000 whp with a VQ37 takes a lot of money In building the motor not any ordinary set up can get our cars to make that kind of power. I love my car But I love LS motors And i wanna run my Car to the ground an Swap an LS and If you think Im wrong by doing so Go ahead and Do whatever the hell you wanna do with your own car and don't knock on my plans. The nissan V8's are nice But I just feel That GM knows What there doing when it comes to the LS series motors end of story...I started this thread to help me see what kind of process I would have to go threw to do this swap Not to Debate what V8 or What motor Would be better to Swap. If you don't have anything productive to say please find another thread to Debate about Pointless things.

NYBladeZ 09-12-2011 12:49 PM

An LS swap into a Z is a sick idea, my only concern would be making the car more nose heavy that it already is.

Jamaica 09-12-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1309163)
An LS swap into a Z is a sick idea, my only concern would be making the car more nose heavy that it already is.

Interesting about making the car heavier.

oleg 09-12-2011 05:16 PM

I was just about to ask how would weight distribution be effected by something like this

Cell 09-12-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1309163)
An LS swap into a Z is a sick idea, my only concern would be making the car more nose heavy that it already is.

I always thought LS motors were pretty light, maybe I am wrong?

Mike 09-12-2011 07:12 PM

I think the LS motor is lighter. Pretty close in any case.

I've done all I'm doing to my engine, with just a tune and intake/test pipes/exhaust. When the engine blows, an LS is going into it.

But mine is just a track car anyways and already has no resale value.

theDreamer 09-12-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1309807)
I think the LS motor is lighter. Pretty close in any case.

I've done all I'm doing to my engine, with just a tune and intake/test pipes/exhaust. When the engine blows, an LS is going into it.

But mine is just a track car anyways and already has no resale value.

And of course when you say LS swap you will be going with a LS7 of course, right? :tup:

Skeeterbop 09-12-2011 07:18 PM

I would be curious to see what the weight difference of one of our motors compares to an LS.

Skeeterbop 09-12-2011 07:31 PM

while I can't find a weight of the VQ, here is the weight of a couple LS engines from gmperformanceparts.com: LS1= 409 LS3= 415 LS7= 440
The LSA and LS9 don't have weight listed, but if i had to guess i would guess somewhere around 440 if not a little more.


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