370Z vs 3.8 Genesis Coupe no vid.
 

I currently have CBE + HFC + CAI + TUNE
My friend has CBE + CAI + TUNE
I killed that thing in every gear.
How is this suppose to compete with us?

It's not, it's meant and designed to compete with the G37.

:driving:

Only in theory. It's a mid 14 second car apparently...

2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 vs. 2009 Infiniti G37 Coupe Comparison Test and Video

A 6-speed last gen Celica GT-S N/A would match it. Sad.

It's also set to compete with Mustang and Camaro v6 models.

It has a back seat. That's the key advantage. And the warranty.

Performance and looks-wise, though, I prefer the Z.

what is HFC???

high flow cats

i think my honda fit is fastAr.

in the end its still a hyundai... what do u expect?

nothing wrong with hyundais.. they are really stepping it up.

Props to Hyundai for offering more options and obvious quality than most car makers. (No, I don't own one.)

It suprised me though it can definetly beat a g37 and 350z.

It's a ok car for the price

It looks good in pictures, but up close, it didn't really impress me.

totally +1, I think is a great option for the price...

You can really tell where they cut corners to keep the price down.

Excuse me????? who told you that genesis can beat g37??

i can kill it and eat it for breakfast





and put in your mind that this g37 is with the old 5AT.. so imagine the 7AT (which i have:driving:)

I think Motor Trend had the guts to compare the Genesis against the Mustang, Camaro and Challenger in one of the past magazine issues. :rolleyes:

Why do we care about comparisons of the base model mustangs, camaros, and challengers vs the top model gen.

Better yet why do we even care about a hyundai?

Statswize the Gen compares almost exactly to a G35 coupe. But fit and finish won't be as nice.

Hyundai's trying to do the same thing Nissan does to supercars with the GT-R and with upper-crust two seaters with the Z. Better "bang for your buck".

For low-$30's you get a decent powertrain, leather seats, performance touches, and a lot of standard features. I parked beside one at the grocery store (I bet he could put more into his car than I could - the wife was taking up my passenger seat). From the rear 3/4 perspective, they look pretty good.

In that segment it's in - it definitely a decent choice for a fun drive.

Now, the Genesis Sedan - when I move up to a luxury sedan in the future, I'll definitely give that Korean offering a test drive.

Its been compared to the G37, its not really meant to "compete" with it. No one shopping for a G37 cross shops a Genesis coupe. Its more aimed at competing with the sports cars in the $25,000-$35,000 range.

No it can't. 350Zs and G37s are mid-high 13 second capable cars. The 3.8 Genesis is a mid 14 second car. Its more on par with a Maxima in the performance category.

I said so lol...
Idk man come through to jersey and race my boy.
I think he'll take most g37's.
Unless u f.i.

:iagree:

Yeah, that car is not particularly fast. It will beat up on stock FF econoboxes, but that's about it.

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if you just said so.. then you have no idea about g37 coupe:shakes head:

Genesis 3.8, a mid 14sec car?

Not really.

Stock 3.8 ATs (ZF transmission) are getting 13.6 to 14.00 depending on track conditions.

Stock 3.8 MTs with the Hyundai reflash are also 13.8 cars. What hurts this car is bad gearing, a low redline and skinny tires.

In a 1/4 mile, stock for stock, it will hang with a G37, it's a complete driver's race.

For those that say they don't compare, they actually completely do, and here in Canada, for 15k additional, it's 90% of the car for 66% of its price.

This car was definitely NOT build to compare with the Z, and anyone with a GC that tells you otherwise is on crack.

i'm pretty sure that porsche feels about our 370z just as we feel about the genesis coupe.. that being said, it would be nice if toyota and honda would still make a rwd sports/gt car. if toyota and honda see the genesis do well, maybe we'll see another supra etc.

How can it compare to the Z?
Z is a 13.2s 1/4 mile, 2 seat car while the Gen coupe is a 13.9s 1/4 mile, 2+2 seat car

On the comment that you get 90% of the car for 66% of the price is doubtful, do you get the same level of interior (leather, plastics, etc.), navigation, how about engine reliability or transmission?

I've cross shopped a G37, Genesis Coupe 3.8 and 135i.

With the Genesis Coupe 3.8 you get:
Brembo 4piston brakes at all 4 corners
Touch screen navigation system
5 year 100 000km warranty in Canada (US gets 10 year)
Optional ZF 6 speed AT (German manufacturer)
Power, heated and leather seats
Standard Bluetooth, Infinity sound system & Ipod interface

The 3.8 engine has proven to be bulletproof, something that can't be said about the 2.0T however.

The GC's interior is nicely laid out and has great ergonomics, though you can see where they cut the budget, lots of soft plastics are used. It is much better than the 100% hard plastic 350Z, but not as luxurious as the G37, that's for sure.

I still stand by what I said, the GC is 90% of a G37 for 66% of its price. If you feel the 10% additional you get from a G37 (mainly the interior), the badge and the, I would suppose, better service is worth 15k, then so be it.

I didn't.

FYI, I'm on the waiting list for the 1M, so this was certainly not a matter of financial means.

All of which you listed is only on par with the G37.
How do you define bulletproof? Does someone have over 100k miles on the car yet? Are there forced induction builds with over 50k miles on the car after the forced induction? How well does the car respond to upgrades (basic bolt ons & forced induction), what level can one reach before major upgrades are needed for the internals of the engine?

I'm unsure this actually applies to any type of valuable comparaison. Stock vs Modded becomes obsolete and is barely of any value to 98% of the buyer's market, the later 2% being diehard enthusiasts.

In any case, what I listed were not advantages over the G37, as you said, it is on par, and on certain features slightly under, that's the 90% as stated earlier.

The car has barely been released for a year now, and FI options are becoming slowly available for the 3.8. Most of the aftermarket focus is on the 2.0T, it is considered the "tuner" platform. If you follow AutoBlog.com, ARK is going to release, in partnership with Hyundai, a supercharge option that can take the car up to 600hp with internal upgrades.

The stock internals are said to be safe for up to 400whp, though no one has confirmed. RMR never came through with their turbo kits which supposedly ran close to 450whp and 570wtq with new cams and stock internals.

The 3.8 responds very well to bolt-ons, being a heavily undertuned engine from the factory to comply with its 87 octane usage and extremely long warranty. 300whp is attainable with CAI, cat-back and a tune as demonstrated on the INJEN car. These cars dyno 250/260 whp in stock trim. CP-E long tube headers have dyno'ed at 14whp over stock without a tune.

I'd like to restate F/I'ing a N/A vehicle is stepping into a world of nightmares and unpredictable costs and if that really is your plan, you're better off with a Mustang. Fortunately we have the 2.0T for that, though it is no where close to the Evo X engine in terms of potential.

Hate to break it to you but putting forced induction onto the Z is very easy, guess what I have a supercharger on my car, and no more of a challenge than a Mustang.
Like I said, what you listed is nothing special for our cars, the G (and the Z) both have those and in better quality plus more. You somewhat proved my point in that the car is so new so saying the engine is bulletproof is not possible. Also, both of your forced induction mentions talk about internal upgrades with the kits.

The Genesis coupe brings forward a starting stone for Hyundai, but between material choices, lack of engine performance, and lower quality it proves not to be 90% of others on the market at the fraction of the price. It is a step below and a step below price.

I will disregard your first point, as again, it barely applies to 2% of the target market, and if this is you, then the GC should not be on your list as it is indeed an unproven platform.

I still stand by what I said, the GC 3.8 is 90% of the G37's overall package for 66% of its price in the eye of the majority of its target market.

If F/I is on your mind, then it is indeed not 90% considering the unknowns in supercharging the 3.8. If you are such a fan of F/I, there are far better choices and with much less hassles (warranty and unknown issues) then going aftermarket on a N/A car (I.E.: 1M, 135i, 335i).

Why would they even compare the two cars. It's not even close to being apples to apples. Anyone who can afford a g37 wouldn't even think of looking at the genesis coupe. and people looking at the genesis wish they could afford the g37 instead

X is the poor man's Y.

Applies to anything.

A g37 is a poor man's 335i.

If you think a car's price represents 100% of the allocated budget for a car, you are sadly mistaken.

:rofl2:

and a 335i is a poor mans m3 and an m3 is a poor mans 911 turbo and a 911 turbo is a poor mans bugati veyron...

People don't put down the quality of hyundai until hyundai fans try to pull this whole 'we're just as good or better than x, y, z cars. hyundai genesis is a solid car. Its a really good value. Leave it at that and stop trying to compare it to cars that aren't in the same class. Its better than a civic or a corrolla or anything else ints price range.

All I know is that this thread went from Z vs Gen to G37 vs Gen real quick. I guess even the Gen owner knows he can't touch the Z.