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flashburn 01-14-2011 08:37 AM

Nice, they didn't mention by how much on the show. That is very, very impressive.

m4a1mustang 01-14-2011 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 894111)
when i test drove it it seemed soo heavy thou.

Brembo GT?

It is bigger and heavier, you definitely feel it. The Z feels smaller and more nimble but that feel is kind of deceptive in that it makes you think the car is actually a better handler than the 5.0. They are just different feels and take different styles of driving.

The Z is more precise but it also has a lot of understeer built in, so it's got more of that "on rails" feeling when you push it really hard. You will lose the front end of the Z before you lose the rear if you really try to attack a corner too hard.

The Mustang is almost perfectly neutral in balance. It rotates the corner a lot better and can really exit well because of it. It's just a lot harder to drive fast because it's so much more free to rotate. You tend to slide more in the 5.0 and that makes it really difficult for an inexperienced driver to get it to go around a track quickly.

IMO if you put a total newb out on track in a Z and a Brembo 5.0, he'd probably be quicker early on with the Z because it's (based on my experience) much easier to drive at the limit. But a more experienced driver will be able to hustle the Mustang around the track a lot quicker.

Whatever, though. To each his own. If I could afford to do it right now I'd still have my 370Z and my 5.0 in the driveway. :tup:

Edit: And if I could really afford it I'd also have a drop top 5.0 and 370Z Roadster. :D

GZ3 01-14-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 894379)
Brembo GT?

It is bigger and heavier, you definitely feel it. The Z feels smaller and more nimble but that feel is kind of deceptive in that it makes you think the car is actually a better handler than the 5.0. They are just different feels and take different styles of driving.

The Z is more precise but it also has a lot of understeer built in, so it's got more of that "on rails" feeling when you push it really hard. You will lose the front end of the Z before you lose the rear if you really try to attack a corner too hard.

The Mustang is almost perfectly neutral in balance. It rotates the corner a lot better and can really exit well because of it. It's just a lot harder to drive fast because it's so much more free to rotate. You tend to slide more in the 5.0 and that makes it really difficult for an inexperienced driver to get it to go around a track quickly.

IMO if you put a total newb out on track in a Z and a Brembo 5.0, he'd probably be quicker early on with the Z because it's (based on my experience) much easier to drive at the limit. But a more experienced driver will be able to hustle the Mustang around the track a lot quicker.

Whatever, though. To each his own. If I could afford to do it right now I'd still have my 370Z and my 5.0 in the driveway. :tup:

Edit: And if I could really afford it I'd also have a drop top 5.0 and 370Z Roadster. :D

hey M4, did you have any links where the gt beats a 370Z anywhere besides lightning lap?? if not, no worries...i looked and couldnt find anything...just needed some morning readin' :tup:

m4a1mustang 01-14-2011 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 894506)
hey M4, did you have any links where the gt beats a 370Z anywhere besides lightning lap?? if not, no worries...i looked and couldnt find anything...just needed some morning readin' :tup:

You can check the 5.0 vs. M3 at Willow video where they are dead even. Otherwise there really aren't any direct comparos between the Z and 5.0 that I know of.

Endgame 01-14-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 894375)
Yeah, they beat the M3 around Laguna Seca by over 3 seconds on the first lap out. And 3 seconds on Laguna is a LOT of time.

LOL!! That is so 'boss" (took it back to the 70's with that phrase!)

This shows that the Stang and the Z are really in different segments. Nissan created the Z to fight the Cayman. Ford created the Stang to take down the M3s and Camaros by default. I am not saying that they will not be crossed shop'd, but it is a key point....

The Boss should beat a M3 off the lot, and the Z, with a few light mods will hang with for certain, and probally beat a Cayman S on the track. Both cars accomplish their goals at a much more cost effective price. Not to mention you can work on the Stang and Z yourself if you like.

Auto fans rejoice!! I say all that but still do not take anything away from the M3 or Cayman.

Endgame 01-14-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 894511)
You can check the 5.0 vs. M3 at Willow video where they are dead even. Otherwise there really aren't any direct comparos between the Z and 5.0 that I know of.

There is actually... I just cannot remember who did it and I do not remember any vids of the comparo. They said they would rather have the 5.0 day to day, but the Z on the track as it was more fun..

They did acknowledge the Stang was faster however..

m4a1mustang 01-14-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 894534)
There is actually... I just cannot remember who did it and I do not remember any vids of the comparo. They said they would rather have the 5.0 day to day, but the Z on the track as it was more fun..

They did acknowledge the Stang was faster however..

I think I remember the one you were talking about. No video, just a magazine article.

Funny thing is I think the Z's ride is a little more comfortable. It's not as stiff as the Brembo GT. The regular GT is probably pretty soft, though.

Endgame 01-14-2011 12:36 PM

still lovin that 5.0 shirt in your avatar!

m4a1mustang 01-14-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 894844)
still lovin that 5.0 shirt in your avatar!

:icon18:

FWIW that's not me in the picture, it's just some random thing I found on the google.

frost 01-14-2011 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 894855)
:icon18:

FWIW that's not me in the picture, it's just some random thing I found on the google.

Buy shirt. Take picture.

Rollin' In My 5.0 T shirt for men - Local Celebrity Shirts at NYshirt.com

GZ3 01-14-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 894855)
:icon18:

FWIW that's not me in the picture, it's just some random thing I found on the google.

jwwaat! i thought that was you man! lol

m4a1mustang 01-14-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 894861)

For $35 I will stick to the free one I have right meow. :icon17:

frost 01-14-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 894871)
For $35 I will stick to the free one I have right meow. :icon17:

$35 is a small price to pay for all the amusement.

m4a1mustang 01-14-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 894872)
$35 is a small price to pay for all the amusement.

Yeah but isn't that the attitude that got you herpes?

frost 01-14-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 894886)
Yeah but isn't that the attitude that got you herpes?

It was a mild case of the drips, you're such an exaggerator.


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